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Rad_Chad
09/06/18 12:35:47 AM
#152:


i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you
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Dragonblade01
09/06/18 12:40:33 AM
#153:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Abiogenesis is an entirely different thing.


But my point was made. I'm not talking about evolution as we have observed it in our world today. I was referring to evolution on a larger scale.

The point you made is you don't understand what's being discussed. Evolution on a larger scale is still just evolution.
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Vindris_SNH
09/06/18 12:41:38 AM
#154:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Abiogenesis is an entirely different thing.


But my point was made. I'm not talking about evolution as we have observed it in our world today. I was referring to evolution on a larger scale.

The point you made is you don't understand what's being discussed. Evolution on a larger scale is still just evolution.


Your only defense so far has been semantics and posturing.
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Dragonblade01
09/06/18 12:47:16 AM
#155:


Vindris_SNH posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Abiogenesis is an entirely different thing.


But my point was made. I'm not talking about evolution as we have observed it in our world today. I was referring to evolution on a larger scale.

The point you made is you don't understand what's being discussed. Evolution on a larger scale is still just evolution.


Your only defense so far has been semantics and posturing.

The semantics are important when people mix up the definitions.
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Nicklebrah
09/06/18 12:55:17 AM
#156:


Vindris_SNH posted...

I think you know that's not what I meant.

I'm talking about evolution applied on the scale of abiogenesis, leading up to where we are now.

Those are the same thing, just on a different time scale.

Vindris_SNH posted...

I have already acknowledged this. You can't test supernatural with science.

You most definitely can... In fact that's the only way you can test it. Something being supernatural means it is outside of the natural laws of the universe. So that's the kinda evidence you'd need to even start proving there's an intelligent designer. So far you have zilch.

Vindris_SNH posted...

Since you and the others have been talking about this so much, please feel free to explain to me exactly what makes evolution so substantiated. I already know what you're going to say, and I'm ready to break it down and prove to you that evolution is no more a reasonable theory to believe than intelligent design is.

What makes evolution so substantiated is the mountains of evidence in it's favor as well as how its mechanisms have been proven as well, natural selection and the like.

No matter what you believe, you can't argue evolution is only as reasonable to believe as intelligent design because one has mountains and mountains of corroborating data and experiments and the other has literally nothing.

Vindris_SNH posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Abiogenesis is an entirely different thing.


But my point was made. I'm not talking about evolution as we have observed it in our world today. I was referring to evolution on a larger scale.

There's literally no difference except the time scale you're using... What dont you get about that?
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Nicklebrah
09/06/18 12:55:58 AM
#157:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Evolution on a larger scale is still just evolution.

Exactly! How is this hard to understand?
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Dragonblade01
09/06/18 1:54:20 AM
#158:


I do have a question for proponents of intelligent design though. Inspite of all the talk of equally applicable evidece, it's a conversation that comes up less often than it should.

How do we know that a car is designed?
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_____Cait
09/06/18 2:08:00 AM
#159:


When will humans mega-evolve?
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Nicklebrah
09/06/18 2:13:46 AM
#160:


_____Cait posted...
When will humans mega-evolve?

When you find the Mega Stones. And I mean you. If you don't find them then we're stuck as these shitty 1st Gen humans. So get on it.
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PokemonExpert44
09/06/18 7:42:44 AM
#161:


Nicklebrah posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...

I think you know that's not what I meant.

I'm talking about evolution applied on the scale of abiogenesis, leading up to where we are now.

Those are the same thing, just on a different time scale.

Vindris_SNH posted...

I have already acknowledged this. You can't test supernatural with science.

You most definitely can... In fact that's the only way you can test it. Something being supernatural means it is outside of the natural laws of the universe. So that's the kinda evidence you'd need to even start proving there's an intelligent designer. So far you have zilch.

Vindris_SNH posted...

Since you and the others have been talking about this so much, please feel free to explain to me exactly what makes evolution so substantiated. I already know what you're going to say, and I'm ready to break it down and prove to you that evolution is no more a reasonable theory to believe than intelligent design is.

What makes evolution so substantiated is the mountains of evidence in it's favor as well as how its mechanisms have been proven as well, natural selection and the like.

No matter what you believe, you can't argue evolution is only as reasonable to believe as intelligent design because one has mountains and mountains of corroborating data and experiments and the other has literally nothing.

Vindris_SNH posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Abiogenesis is an entirely different thing.


But my point was made. I'm not talking about evolution as we have observed it in our world today. I was referring to evolution on a larger scale.

There's literally no difference except the time scale you're using... What dont you get about that?


There's overwhelming evidence for intelligent design.
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KhanJohnny
09/06/18 9:37:30 AM
#162:


Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up
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Rexdragon125
09/06/18 9:57:09 AM
#163:


PokemonExpert44 posted...
There's overwhelming evidence for intelligent design.

Maybe if you misunderstand terms like theory and evidence
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Dragonblade01
09/06/18 10:36:14 AM
#164:


KhanJohnny posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

You realize evolution doesn't rely on Charles Darwin or his work, correct?
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KhanJohnny
09/06/18 10:55:46 AM
#165:


Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

You realize evolution doesn't rely on Charles Darwin or his work, correct?

You can't build on a house of sand lmao
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YoshitoKikuchi
09/08/18 3:07:04 AM
#166:


bump
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Dragonblade01
09/08/18 4:46:44 AM
#167:


KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

You realize evolution doesn't rely on Charles Darwin or his work, correct?

You can't build on a house of sand lmao

If you tossed out all of Charles Darwin's original findings, the theory of evolution wouldn't be affected in the slightest.
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treewojima
09/08/18 12:05:31 PM
#168:


how would one even test the theory of intelligent design?
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KhanJohnny
09/08/18 12:26:25 PM
#169:


Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

You realize evolution doesn't rely on Charles Darwin or his work, correct?

You can't build on a house of sand lmao

If you tossed out all of Charles Darwin's original findings, the theory of evolution wouldn't be affected in the slightest.

Honestly one of the dumber things I've read in a while
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Dragonblade01
09/08/18 12:45:03 PM
#170:


KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

You realize evolution doesn't rely on Charles Darwin or his work, correct?

You can't build on a house of sand lmao

If you tossed out all of Charles Darwin's original findings, the theory of evolution wouldn't be affected in the slightest.

Honestly one of the dumber things I've read in a while

That's because you don't understand it.
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Prestoff
09/08/18 1:11:11 PM
#171:


treewojima posted...
how would one even test the theory of intelligent design?


You literally can't, it breaks many rules to becoming a scientific theory, the main one being that it's unfalsifiable.
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ThyCorndog
09/08/18 4:19:43 PM
#172:


KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

You realize evolution doesn't rely on Charles Darwin or his work, correct?

You can't build on a house of sand lmao

If you tossed out all of Charles Darwin's original findings, the theory of evolution wouldn't be affected in the slightest.

Honestly one of the dumber things I've read in a while

all of our understanding of biology is based on evolution
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KhanJohnny
09/08/18 5:24:40 PM
#173:


Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Rad_Chad posted...
i don't get how people who think a fucking book written by people that had less than a first grade understanding of practically anything is greater than actual evidence. like fuck off, bros. you are holding us all back by forcing us to tolerate you

Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

You realize evolution doesn't rely on Charles Darwin or his work, correct?

You can't build on a house of sand lmao

If you tossed out all of Charles Darwin's original findings, the theory of evolution wouldn't be affected in the slightest.

Honestly one of the dumber things I've read in a while

That's because you don't understand it.

WRONG
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Dragonblade01
09/08/18 10:49:37 PM
#174:


Well now you're just desperate.
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darkmaian23
09/09/18 8:18:32 AM
#176:


PokemonExpert44 posted...
There's overwhelming evidence for intelligent design.

Such as? In the course of writing my final paper for an advanced writing class, I read every book and article I could find by intelligent design proponents. All of them featured an abundance of hand-waving, emotional appeals, and flimsy arguments. Intelligent design doesn't make any testable predictions, and therefore cannot be considered a real scientific theory. Are you familiar with the Dover court case? The experts called to defend intelligent design were utterly destroyed, and a conservative judge ruled that intelligent design is essentially rebranded creationism; it's religion, not science.

If someone has come out with a new book or novel argument, I really would like to hear about it.

KhanJohnny posted...
Yeah fucking Darwin is just another old dead white man, who really didnt know the first shit about anything, and the suckers are just slurping it up

Let's assume that right and Charles Darwin didn't understand anything. It wouldn't matter because the work of generations of scientists have confirmed Darwin's findings and expanded on them. Even if he was ignorant, he got it right with evolution. And even if there hadn't been a Darwin or even fossils to examine, we would have eventually discovered evolution through other lines of evidence, such as genetics.
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Coffeebeanz
09/09/18 8:23:10 AM
#177:


One thing I don't get is the transition between the RNA World and the DNA World. Assuming the RNA World Hypothesis is true, of course.

But yeah evolution is 100% fact. It has literally been observed.
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AlisLandale
09/09/18 8:24:39 AM
#178:


Coffeebeanz posted...
One thing I don't get is the transition between the RNA World and the DNA World. Assuming the RNA World Hypothesis is true, of course.

But yeah evolution is 100% fact. It has literally been observed.


What specifically has been observed?

Curious >_>
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Coffeebeanz
09/09/18 8:27:12 AM
#179:


AlisLandale posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
One thing I don't get is the transition between the RNA World and the DNA World. Assuming the RNA World Hypothesis is true, of course.

But yeah evolution is 100% fact. It has literally been observed.


What specifically has been observed?

Curious >_>


The gradual accumulation of point mutations over time.

these have been directly observed in bacteria. Of course, the accumulation of point mutations is also the primary cause of cancer.
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AlisLandale
09/09/18 9:19:20 AM
#180:


So humans really are cancer


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treewojima
09/09/18 9:25:56 AM
#181:


AlisLandale posted...
So humans really are cancer



no, it means people with cancer have evolved

it's just not a very good evolution since it kills you. if only we could hit "B"...
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KhanJohnny
09/09/18 9:56:11 AM
#182:


Lmao at people trying to defend yet another old dead white cismale

The white supremacy in this topic never ceased to amaze me.

You completely ignore the accpunts about where humanity came from offered by non-Christian, people of color.
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DarkChozoGhost
09/09/18 10:37:53 AM
#183:


I mean, I have personally witnessed evolution occur in a laboratory setting. And that was only a 200 level class.

It's pretty silly to say "we've never seen evolution."
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treewojima
09/09/18 10:38:52 AM
#184:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
I mean, I have personally witnessed evolution occur in a laboratory setting. And that was only a 200 level class.

It's pretty silly to say "we've never seen evolution."


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KamenRiderBlade
09/09/18 10:41:06 AM
#185:


DirkDiggles posted...
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PokemonExpert44
09/09/18 2:05:13 PM
#187:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
I mean, I have personally witnessed evolution occur in a laboratory setting. And that was only a 200 level class.

It's pretty silly to say "we've never seen evolution."


No one can observe evolution, though.
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Coffeebeanz
09/09/18 4:31:05 PM
#188:


PokemonExpert44 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
I mean, I have personally witnessed evolution occur in a laboratory setting. And that was only a 200 level class.

It's pretty silly to say "we've never seen evolution."


No one can observe evolution, though.


Yes, actually, we can.

Every time we give an antibiotic and promote resistance, it's by putting heavy evolutionary pressure on the organisms.
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Prestoff
09/09/18 8:27:56 PM
#189:


dolomedes posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Lmao at people trying to defend yet another old dead white cismale
The white supremacy in this topic never ceases to amaze me.
You completely ignore the accounts about where humanity came from offered by non-Christian, people of color.

oh, good, you're just a troll.


Took him long enough, I have him tagged as a conservative shit poster and glad it's pretty accurate.
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DarkChozoGhost
09/09/18 8:31:33 PM
#190:


PokemonExpert44 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
I mean, I have personally witnessed evolution occur in a laboratory setting. And that was only a 200 level class.

It's pretty silly to say "we've never seen evolution."


No one can observe evolution, though.

We can, and do, and it's simple enough that freshmen can perform the lab
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Prestoff
09/10/18 7:23:05 AM
#191:


To no one surprise @KhanJonny is suspended. Probably for shit posting as usual.
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PokemonExpert44
09/10/18 4:05:21 PM
#192:


Prestoff posted...
To no one surprise @KhanJonny is suspended. Probably for shit posting as usual.


he's gonna get B7 soon
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