Poll of the Day > the first sam raimi spider-man felt more like spider-man than homecoming did

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NightMareBunny 09/02/18 2:17:51 AM #1:	i could easily say homecoming might have been better than amazing spider-man but amazing spider-man had a lot of issues and was handled poorly by sony but to me the original spider-man movie by sam raimi feels more like a spider-man movie than what we got with spider-man homecoming --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:907963083] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>i could easily say homecoming might have been better than amazing spider-man but amazing spider-man had a lot of issues and was handled poorly by sony but to me the original spider-man movie by sam raimi feels more like a spider-man movie than what we got with spider-man homecoming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_Frog 09/02/18 2:21:29 AM #2:	That's because the first Spider-Man was great. <cite>Red_Frog posted [p:907963210] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>That's because the first Spider-Man was great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/02/18 2:48:07 AM #3:	I disagree, but I also acknowledge that with Spider-Man, a lot it depends on precisely what era of his story you're thinking of when you compare. 1960s Spider-Man is somewhat different from 1970s Spider-Man, which in turn was a bit different from later Spider-Man. He's a lot like Batman in that respect - 40s Batman, 50s and 60s Batman, 70s Batman, 80s Batman, and 90s Batman are all distinctly different, and if you're trying to decide which Batman movie is "truest" to the comic, you'll definitely get different answers if you compare with different periods. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:907963978] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>I disagree, but I also acknowledge that with Spider-Man, a lot it depends on precisely what era of his story you're thinking of when you compare. 1960s Spider-Man is somewhat different from 1970s Spider-Man, which in turn was a bit different from later Spider-Man. He's a lot like Batman in that respect - 40s Batman, 50s and 60s Batman, 70s Batman, 80s Batman, and 90s Batman are all distinctly different, and if you're trying to decide which Batman movie is "truest" to the comic, you'll definitely get different answers if you compare with different periods. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/02/18 2:50:57 AM #4:	No --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:907964075] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 09/02/18 9:46:09 AM #5:	NightMareBunny posted... but to me the original spider-man movie by sam raimi feels more like a spider-man movie than what we got with spider-man homecoming How so? --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:907971960] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>but to me the original spider-man movie by sam raimi feels more like a spider-man movie than what we got with spider-man homecoming</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/02/18 11:14:58 AM #6:	rexcrk posted... NightMareBunny posted... but to me the original spider-man movie by sam raimi feels more like a spider-man movie than what we got with spider-man homecoming How so? well first off in homecoming spider-man is basically iron-man's student and he's trying his best not to upset or disappoint him in the way he does things he doesn't really work well when you try to mold him into this sidekick whose craving positive attention from his mentor --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:907974780] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>rexcrk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>but to me the original spider-man movie by sam raimi feels more like a spider-man movie than what we got with spider-man homecoming</quote> How so?</quote> well first off in homecoming spider-man is basically iron-man's student and he's trying his best not to upset or disappoint him in the way he does things he doesn't really work well when you try to mold him into this sidekick whose craving positive attention from his mentor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathMagnetic80 09/02/18 11:20:11 AM #7:	I can appreciate all the versions of Spider-Man for what they are... I haven't seen ASM2, but I thought the first was better than people give it credit for, but Tom Holland is easily my favorite Spider-Man. <cite>DeathMagnetic80 posted [p:907974983] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>I can appreciate all the versions of Spider-Man for what they are... I haven't seen ASM2, but I thought the first was better than people give it credit for, but Tom Holland is easily my favorite Spider-Man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenBananas 09/02/18 11:41:59 AM #8:	Both Spiderman 1 and 2 were classic, probably the most personal and unique spiderman films. And they broke a ton of ground in the comic book film scene --- we gucci *-...now would you kindly go get stepped on by a Big Daddy?-* <cite>FrozenBananas posted [p:907975808] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>Both Spiderman 1 and 2 were classic, probably the most personal and unique spiderman films. And they broke a ton of ground in the comic book film scene</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FourthDimension 09/02/18 12:05:28 PM #9:	They did feel like watching a cheesy animated series aimed at children. <cite>FourthDimension posted [p:907976676] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>They did feel like watching a cheesy animated series aimed at children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/02/18 10:46:51 PM #10:	FrozenBananas posted... Both Spiderman 1 and 2 were classic, probably the most personal and unique spiderman films. And they broke a ton of ground in the comic book film scene no doubt but let's not speak of spider-man 3 --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908007126] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrozenBananas posted...</cite> <quote>Both Spiderman 1 and 2 were classic, probably the most personal and unique spiderman films. And they broke a ton of ground in the comic book film scene</quote> no doubt but let's not speak of spider-man 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/02/18 10:50:56 PM #11:	NightMareBunny posted... he doesn't really work well I'm thinking most people who've watched it disagree with you. I'm thinking Spiderman fans will also disagree with you. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:908007317] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>he doesn't really work well</quote> I'm thinking most people who've watched it disagree with you. I'm thinking Spiderman fans will also disagree with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 09/02/18 10:51:47 PM #12:	ITT: NMB being NMB --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:908007355] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>ITT: NMB being NMB</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 09/02/18 10:54:09 PM #13:	the raimi trilogy is so cringey --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:908007460] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>the raimi trilogy is so cringey</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/02/18 10:55:23 PM #14:	AllstarSniper32 posted... NightMareBunny posted... he doesn't really work well I'm thinking most people who've watched it disagree with you. I'm thinking Spiderman fans will also disagree with you. why's that? Most incarnations of spider-man started out working alone and rarely did he find himself on a team when he does find himself on a team it's only temporary so how would most people even spider-man fans think he works well as a needy sidekick? --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908007524] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>he doesn't really work well</quote> I'm thinking most people who've watched it disagree with you. I'm thinking Spiderman fans will also disagree with you.</quote> why's that? Most incarnations of spider-man started out working alone and rarely did he find himself on a team when he does find himself on a team it's only temporary so how would most people even spider-man fans think he works well as a needy sidekick?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 09/02/18 10:58:40 PM #15:	He wasn't anything even resembling a sidekick. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:908007686] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>He wasn't anything even resembling a sidekick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/02/18 11:00:52 PM #16:	Metalsonic66 posted... He wasn't anything even resembling a sidekick. and yet he went out of his way to try and impress ironman --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908007780] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote>He wasn't anything even resembling a sidekick.</quote> and yet he went out of his way to try and impress ironman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 09/02/18 11:03:00 PM #17:	That's not what sidekicks do. If anything he went out if his way to disappoint Iron Man. Disabling his tracker and lying to Happy and trying to handle shit on his own for the most part. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:908007884] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>That's not what sidekicks do. If anything he went out if his way to disappoint Iron Man. Disabling his tracker and lying to Happy and trying to handle shit on his own for the most part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 09/02/18 11:05:45 PM #18:	Biggest problem with Homecoming was the lack of a distinct thematic growth for Peter, that is he starts off disobeying Stark and is punished for it but then in the end he succeeds doing the exact same thing. They're trying to make a Spider-Man distinct from what we've seen before and that's really not a criticism of the film anymore than Daniel Radcliffe's eye color is in Harry Potter. --- https://i.imgtc.com/s5SZnYd.jpg <cite>Blighboy posted [p:908008007] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>Biggest problem with Homecoming was the lack of a distinct thematic growth for Peter, that is he starts off disobeying Stark and is punished for it but then in the end he succeeds doing the exact same thing. They're trying to make a Spider-Man distinct from what we've seen before and that's really not a criticism of the film anymore than Daniel Radcliffe's eye color is in Harry Potter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/02/18 11:11:39 PM #19:	because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own he didn't really act like someone who could operate without training wheels and desperately wanted to show ironman that he could be a future avenger you make it sound like he wanted to anger and annoy ironman on purpose when he was doing all of those things to try and show how cool and effective he could be the major difference between most incarnations of spider-man and homecoming is that most incarnations are independent superheroes that don't really have a mentor superhero hanging over them and judging them all the time --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908008257] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own he didn't really act like someone who could operate without training wheels and desperately wanted to show ironman that he could be a future avenger you make it sound like he wanted to anger and annoy ironman on purpose when he was doing all of those things to try and show how cool and effective he could be the major difference between most incarnations of spider-man and homecoming is that most incarnations are independent superheroes that don't really have a mentor superhero hanging over them and judging them all the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/02/18 11:13:59 PM #20:	Blighboy posted... Biggest problem with Homecoming was the lack of a distinct thematic growth for Peter, that is he starts off disobeying Stark and is punished for it but then in the end he succeeds doing the exact same thing. They're trying to make a Spider-Man distinct from what we've seen before and that's really not a criticism of the film anymore than Daniel Radcliffe's eye color is in Harry Potter. the criticism is that spider-man wasn't that cool in his own movie hell he couldn't even beat the vulture without dumb luck and the villain being an idiot that kicks his own ass in the end --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908008339] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blighboy posted...</cite> <quote>Biggest problem with Homecoming was the lack of a distinct thematic growth for Peter, that is he starts off disobeying Stark and is punished for it but then in the end he succeeds doing the exact same thing. They're trying to make a Spider-Man distinct from what we've seen before and that's really not a criticism of the film anymore than Daniel Radcliffe's eye color is in Harry Potter.</quote> the criticism is that spider-man wasn't that cool in his own movie hell he couldn't even beat the vulture without dumb luck and the villain being an idiot that kicks his own ass in the end</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/02/18 11:15:45 PM #21:	NightMareBunny posted... because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own If he's doing that, then he's not trying to be a sidekick... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:908008426] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own</quote> If he's doing that, then he's not trying to be a sidekick...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/02/18 11:25:51 PM #22:	LinkPizza posted... NightMareBunny posted... because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own If he's doing that, then he's not trying to be a sidekick... how many sidekicks are actually comfortable with being sidekicks? no sidekick actively tries to be one it's just something someone puts them into and they just deal with it even robin eventually got sick of the sidekick schtick and rebelled against batman --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908008879] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own</quote> If he's doing that, then he's not trying to be a sidekick...</quote> how many sidekicks are actually comfortable with being sidekicks? no sidekick actively tries to be one it's just something someone puts them into and they just deal with it even robin eventually got sick of the sidekick schtick and rebelled against batman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/02/18 11:35:36 PM #23:	NightMareBunny posted... LinkPizza posted... NightMareBunny posted... because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own If he's doing that, then he's not trying to be a sidekick... how many sidekicks are actually comfortable with being sidekicks? no sidekick actively tries to be one it's just something someone puts them into and they just deal with it even robin eventually got sick of the sidekick schtick and rebelled against batman Depends. I sure some sidekicks are fine being sidekicks. It just depends. Some don't want all the responsibility. Some don't want to be in the spotlight. Others just can't do anything but be the sidekick. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:908009353] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>because he thought if he succeeded it would show stark he's ready to handle things on his own</quote> If he's doing that, then he's not trying to be a sidekick...</quote> how many sidekicks are actually comfortable with being sidekicks? no sidekick actively tries to be one it's just something someone puts them into and they just deal with it even robin eventually got sick of the sidekick schtick and rebelled against batman</quote> Depends. I sure some sidekicks are fine being sidekicks. It just depends. Some don't want all the responsibility. Some don't want to be in the spotlight. Others just can't do anything but be the sidekick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/03/18 12:08:05 AM #24:	NightMareBunny posted... so how would most people even spider-man fans think he works well as a needy sidekick? Most people understand that he's not being a needy sidekick. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:908010657] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>so how would most people even spider-man fans think he works well as a needy sidekick?</quote> Most people understand that he's not being a needy sidekick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/03/18 12:22:00 AM #25:	AllstarSniper32 posted... NightMareBunny posted... so how would most people even spider-man fans think he works well as a needy sidekick? Most people understand that he's not being a needy sidekick. whatever you say man...let's just get straight to the point how is homecoming a good spidey movie? --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908011198] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>so how would most people even spider-man fans think he works well as a needy sidekick?</quote> Most people understand that he's not being a needy sidekick.</quote> whatever you say man...let's just get straight to the point how is homecoming a good spidey movie?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/03/18 1:45:49 AM #26:	NightMareBunny posted... the criticism is that spider-man wasn't that cool in his own movie Spider-Man isn't all that "cool" in his own comic book, either. NightMareBunny posted... whatever you say man...let's just get straight to the point how is homecoming a good spidey movie? For starters, it helps that it's the only Spider-Man movie that gets the balance right between both Peter and Spider-Man, rather than overcompensating on one and short-changing the other. The Raimi movies, while great in their own way, take early 1960s Spider-Man and make him even more pathetic, then skimp on really portraying Spider-Man in the same way the comics do. Then the Amazing Spider-Man movies try to do the opposite, doubling down on wisecracking Spider-Man but making Peter kind of an unlikable asshole in the process. Homecoming basically tries to balance the two sides of the character, while taking elements from the Ultimate version rather than just a straight port of the main version (which isn't unusual, because the Avengers has been a sort of hybrid of original recipe and the Ultimates version right from the very beginning, and that bleeds through into some of the other characters - it's their way of trying to "modernize" some of the older characters). Every actual comic fan (especially the Spider-Man fans) I know has explicitly said they consider the current version of Spider-Man in the movies to be the most like actual Spider-Man. A lot of the people who take a hard stance on Raimi's Peter are people who never really cared about Spider-Man before the Raimi movies. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:908014217] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>the criticism is that spider-man wasn't that cool in his own movie</quote> Spider-Man isn't all that "cool" in his own comic book, either. <cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>whatever you say man...let's just get straight to the point how is homecoming a good spidey movie?</quote> For starters, it helps that it's the only Spider-Man movie that gets the balance right between both Peter and Spider-Man, rather than overcompensating on one and short-changing the other. The Raimi movies, while great in their own way, take early 1960s Spider-Man and make him even more pathetic, then skimp on really portraying Spider-Man in the same way the comics do. Then the Amazing Spider-Man movies try to do the opposite, doubling down on wisecracking Spider-Man but making Peter kind of an unlikable asshole in the process. Homecoming basically tries to balance the two sides of the character, while taking elements from the Ultimate version rather than just a straight port of the main version (which isn't unusual, because the Avengers has been a sort of hybrid of original recipe and the Ultimates version right from the very beginning, and that bleeds through into some of the other characters - it's their way of trying to "modernize" some of the older characters). Every actual comic fan (especially the Spider-Man fans) I know has explicitly said they consider the current version of Spider-Man in the movies to be the most like actual Spider-Man. A lot of the people who take a hard stance on Raimi's Peter are people who never really cared about Spider-Man before the Raimi movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/03/18 2:53:14 AM #27:	You Haven't been reading many comic books(or the right ones)if spider-man doesn't come off as cool for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908016023] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>You Haven't been reading many comic books(or the right ones)if spider-man doesn't come off as cool for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/03/18 3:53:59 AM #28:	NightMareBunny posted... for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic? --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:908017346] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable</quote> Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/03/18 4:21:30 AM #29:	NightMareBunny posted... You Haven't been reading many comic books(or the right ones)if spider-man doesn't come off as cool Son, I was reading Spider-Man comics before you were born. Now go sit your ass down in the back of the class before I paddle your behind. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:908017907] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>You Haven't been reading many comic books(or the right ones)if spider-man doesn't come off as cool </quote> Son, I was reading Spider-Man comics before you were born. Now go sit your ass down in the back of the class before I paddle your behind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/03/18 4:36:12 AM #30:	AllstarSniper32 posted... NightMareBunny posted... for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic? no it wasn't but it doesn't change the fact that spider-man isn't some lame boring idiot in his own comic book --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908018193] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable</quote> Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic?</quote> no it wasn't but it doesn't change the fact that spider-man isn't some lame boring idiot in his own comic book</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/03/18 4:39:12 AM #31:	ParanoidObsessive posted... NightMareBunny posted... You Haven't been reading many comic books(or the right ones)if spider-man doesn't come off as cool Son, I was reading Spider-Man comics before you were born. Now go sit your ass down in the back of the class before I paddle your behind. then how can you say spider-man's not all that cool in his own comic book? that's a bizarre statement to make it's as stupid as saying "Superman's a boring bland character" --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908018243] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>You Haven't been reading many comic books(or the right ones)if spider-man doesn't come off as cool </quote> Son, I was reading Spider-Man comics before you were born. Now go sit your ass down in the back of the class before I paddle your behind. </quote> then how can you say spider-man's not all that cool in his own comic book? that's a bizarre statement to make it's as stupid as saying "Superman's a boring bland character"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/03/18 4:43:02 AM #32:	NightMareBunny posted... then how can you say spider-man's not all that cool in his own comic book? Because not being "cool" is pretty much a defining characteristic of the character. That's actually the point of Peter becoming "lame emo kid" in the 3rd Raimi film - that's supposed to be PETER'S idea of what cool is, but it's terrible, because Peter isn't cool. Have you ever seen the art in early Spider-Man comics? Peter's pretty much the biggest dork in the entire Marvel universe. NightMareBunny posted... that's a bizarre statement to make it's as stupid as saying "Superman's a boring bland character" No, it's more like saying you shouldn't make a movie where Superman is a gritty antihero, because it runs counter to the core of what the character IS. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:908018310] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>then how can you say spider-man's not all that cool in his own comic book?</quote> Because not being "cool" is pretty much a defining characteristic of the character. That's actually the point of Peter becoming "lame emo kid" in the 3rd Raimi film - that's supposed to be PETER'S idea of what cool is, but it's terrible, because Peter isn't cool. Have you ever seen the art in early Spider-Man comics? Peter's pretty much the biggest dork in the entire Marvel universe. <cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>that's a bizarre statement to make it's as stupid as saying "Superman's a boring bland character"</quote> No, it's more like saying you shouldn't make a movie where Superman is a gritty antihero, because it runs counter to the core of what the character IS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/03/18 4:52:36 AM #33:	NightMareBunny posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... NightMareBunny posted... for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic? no it wasn't but it doesn't change the fact that spider-man isn't some lame boring idiot in his own comic book All your posts are doing is showing that you have no idea what Spiderman is supposed be. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:908018474] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable</quote> Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic?</quote> no it wasn't but it doesn't change the fact that spider-man isn't some lame boring idiot in his own comic book</quote> All your posts are doing is showing that you have no idea what Spiderman is supposed be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/03/18 4:55:19 AM #34:	AllstarSniper32 posted... NightMareBunny posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... NightMareBunny posted... for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic? no it wasn't but it doesn't change the fact that spider-man isn't some lame boring idiot in his own comic book All your posts are doing is showing that you have no idea what Spiderman is supposed be. Do you see the new spider-man video game that's out this week touting spider-man as this unloved uncool loser whose hated by the world? no because that's stupid and people like to hammer home when Spider-Man was a dorky kid which makes up so little of his actual existence that it boggles the mind that people act like the brief time we saw him in high school during the comics is what his role should be forever etched as --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908018510] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>for example, the time he beat the living crap out of the kingpin in a prison for all the other criminals to see and humiliated him when he tried to tout that he was untouchable</quote> Was this something that happened in the very first story arc of a Spider-Man comic?</quote> no it wasn't but it doesn't change the fact that spider-man isn't some lame boring idiot in his own comic book</quote> All your posts are doing is showing that you have no idea what Spiderman is supposed be.</quote> Do you see the new spider-man video game that's out this week touting spider-man as this unloved uncool loser whose hated by the world? no because that's stupid and people like to hammer home when Spider-Man was a dorky kid which makes up so little of his actual existence that it boggles the mind that people act like the brief time we saw him in high school during the comics is what his role should be forever etched as</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/03/18 7:58:17 AM #35:	NightMareBunny posted... Do you see the new spider-man video game that's out this week touting spider-man as this unloved uncool loser whose hated by the world? Is the new Spiderman game an origin story where Peter Parker is still in High School? No, it's not, so you can have him be how he is after that. And I'm not sure where you got the "hated by the world" bit. So not only do you now know the character, you don't even know the movie character either. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:908021775] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>Do you see the new spider-man video game that's out this week touting spider-man as this unloved uncool loser whose hated by the world?</quote> Is the new Spiderman game an origin story where Peter Parker is still in High School? No, it's not, so you can have him be how he is after that. And I'm not sure where you got the "hated by the world" bit. So not only do you now know the character, you don't even know the movie character either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/03/18 8:16:10 AM #36:	AllstarSniper32 posted... NightMareBunny posted... Do you see the new spider-man video game that's out this week touting spider-man as this unloved uncool loser whose hated by the world? Is the new Spiderman game an origin story where Peter Parker is still in High School? No, it's not, so you can have him be how he is after that. And I'm not sure where you got the "hated by the world" bit. So not only do you now know the character, you don't even know the movie character either. Spider-Man Homecoming wasn't an origin story either...he was already introduced via civil war and again he's spent so little time in high school in the source material that acting like nerdy bookish lame peter parker is his whole persona is just laughable how would it be possible for someone whose seen all the movies all the cartoons read crap tons of comics to not know how the character is? --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908022169] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NightMareBunny posted...</cite> <quote>Do you see the new spider-man video game that's out this week touting spider-man as this unloved uncool loser whose hated by the world?</quote> Is the new Spiderman game an origin story where Peter Parker is still in High School? No, it's not, so you can have him be how he is after that. And I'm not sure where you got the "hated by the world" bit. So not only do you now know the character, you don't even know the movie character either.</quote> Spider-Man Homecoming wasn't an origin story either...he was already introduced via civil war and again he's spent so little time in high school in the source material that acting like nerdy bookish lame peter parker is his whole persona is just laughable how would it be possible for someone whose seen all the movies all the cartoons read crap tons of comics to not know how the character is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 09/03/18 9:04:36 AM #37:	I think you're confused about this needy side kick thing. He's a teenager like any other that doesnt like not being taken seriously. He's just acting like any other teenager would and the adult super hero (Stark) is acting how any adult would when they want to protect said teenager super hero. It really has nothing to do with him being portrayed as a side kick. He spends most of the movie trying to do his own thing. This happens to be a universe where everyone has a pretty big start on Peter Parker as far as super heroing goes so there's a bit of a rookie/pro relationship going on. Not really a sidekick-hero one. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:908023409] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>I think you're confused about this needy side kick thing. He's a teenager like any other that doesnt like not being taken seriously. He's just acting like any other teenager would and the adult super hero (Stark) is acting how any adult would when they want to protect said teenager super hero. It really has nothing to do with him being portrayed as a side kick. He spends most of the movie trying to do his own thing. This happens to be a universe where everyone has a pretty big start on Peter Parker as far as super heroing goes so there's a bit of a rookie/pro relationship going on. Not really a sidekick-hero one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainObvius 09/03/18 9:09:47 AM #38:	I just wish he wouldn't rely so much on starks gadgets. Spiderman is pretty awesome without all of that tech. --- "Squeak"- Death of Rats, Discworld. <cite>CaptainObvius posted [p:908023561] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>I just wish he wouldn't rely so much on starks gadgets. Spiderman is pretty awesome without all of that tech.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Abibde 09/03/18 9:27:41 AM #40:	ParanoidObsessive posted... I disagree, but I also acknowledge that with Spider-Man, a lot it depends on precisely what era of his story you're thinking of when you compare. 1960s Spider-Man is somewhat different from 1970s Spider-Man, which in turn was a bit different from later Spider-Man. He's a lot like Batman in that respect - 40s Batman, 50s and 60s Batman, 70s Batman, 80s Batman, and 90s Batman are all distinctly different, and if you're trying to decide which Batman movie is "truest" to the comic, you'll definitely get different answers if you compare with different periods. points upwards This is my answer, as well. --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:908024099] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>I disagree, but I also acknowledge that with Spider-Man, a lot it depends on precisely what era of his story you're thinking of when you compare. 1960s Spider-Man is somewhat different from 1970s Spider-Man, which in turn was a bit different from later Spider-Man. He's a lot like Batman in that respect - 40s Batman, 50s and 60s Batman, 70s Batman, 80s Batman, and 90s Batman are all distinctly different, and if you're trying to decide which Batman movie is "truest" to the comic, you'll definitely get different answers if you compare with different periods.</quote> points upwards This is my answer, as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 09/03/18 4:19:57 PM #41:	And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:908043452] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/03/18 5:39:46 PM #42:	Veedrock- posted... And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn. Did he go to some comic book board or something? --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:908047978] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn.</quote> Did he go to some comic book board or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 09/03/18 6:47:47 PM #43:	AllstarSniper32 posted... Veedrock- posted... And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn. Did he go to some comic book board or something? The movie board I rolled my eyes to the fucking heavens when I saw that earlier --- https://i.imgtc.com/s5SZnYd.jpg <cite>Blighboy posted [p:908051809] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn.</quote> Did he go to some comic book board or something?</quote> The movie board I rolled my eyes to the fucking heavens when I saw that earlier</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AllstarSniper32 09/03/18 6:55:15 PM #44:	Blighboy posted... AllstarSniper32 posted... Veedrock- posted... And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn. Did he go to some comic book board or something? The movie board I rolled my eyes to the fucking heavens when I saw that earlier Just saw another topic about it, also rolled my eyes. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson <cite>AllstarSniper32 posted [p:908052256] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blighboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AllstarSniper32 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn.</quote> Did he go to some comic book board or something?</quote> The movie board I rolled my eyes to the fucking heavens when I saw that earlier</quote> Just saw another topic about it, also rolled my eyes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 09/03/18 7:15:09 PM #45:	I was completely wrong it was the comics board. Should've figured he wouldn't go to the movie board. --- https://i.imgtc.com/s5SZnYd.jpg <cite>Blighboy posted [p:908053273] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>I was completely wrong it was the comics board. Should've figured he wouldn't go to the movie board.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yojimbooh 09/03/18 7:20:40 PM #46:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/191635-marvels-spider-man/76962206#1 --- He had no friends, this Jonah Hex, but he did have two companions: one was death itself... the other, the acrid smell of gunsmoke. <cite>Yojimbooh posted [p:908053567] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/191635-marvels-spider-man/76962206#1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 09/03/18 7:21:05 PM #47:	Whos Arvs sidekick --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:908053593] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote>Whos Arvs sidekick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMareBunny 09/03/18 7:28:17 PM #48:	Veedrock- posted... And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn. do you even read? most of the replies weren't of the "shut up homecoming's better variety" you seem to be imaging them as --- Gamefaqs Nintendo Discord Server: https://discord.gg/v9ut5hv <cite>NightMareBunny posted [p:908054014] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>And in natural course, NMB runs to another board hoping to reinforce his beliefs and they're not having any of it either. Never learn.</quote> do you even read? most of the replies weren't of the "shut up homecoming's better variety" you seem to be imaging them as</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkynyrdRocker 09/03/18 10:19:26 PM #49:	Blighboy posted... I was completely wrong it was the comics board. Should've figured he wouldn't go to the movie board. He posted on the comics board and the Spiderman PS4 game board. He's really upset over this. <cite>SkynyrdRocker posted [p:908064155] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blighboy posted...</cite> <quote>I was completely wrong it was the comics board. Should've figured he wouldn't go to the movie board.</quote> He posted on the comics board and the Spiderman PS4 game board. He's really upset over this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarGreymon77 09/04/18 12:11:32 AM #50:	VeeVees posted... the raimi trilogy is so cringey The first movie is a classic, even if Tobey Maguire is a dork. I grew up with 90s animated series Spider-Man where everyone (especially Peter) was buff, so that was a little off-putting to see. Animated series Peter was college age also. --- Creator of the official Digimon: Digital Monsters community board! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1430-digimon-digital-monsters <cite>WarGreymon77 posted [p:908069761] in the first ... [t:76959119]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>the raimi trilogy is so cringey</quote> The first movie is a classic, even if Tobey Maguire is a dork. I grew up with 90s animated series Spider-Man where everyone (especially Peter) was buff, so that was a little off-putting to see. Animated series Peter was college age also.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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