Current Events > Noam Chomsky says US is worlds biggest terrorist

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Kazi1212
08/31/18 8:59:24 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.euronews.com/amp/2015/04/17/chomsky-says-us-is-world-s-biggest-terrorist

Lets see if this topic gets modded. Thoughts on what Chomsky is saying?
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metralo
08/31/18 8:59:46 PM
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seems good to me.
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MakoReizei
08/31/18 8:59:51 PM
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Chomsky is a loon.
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TomNook20
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LightningAce11
08/31/18 9:02:48 PM
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General Aladeen sums up America perfectly.

Why are you guys so anti-dictators? Imagine if America was a dictatorship. You could let 1% of the people have all the nation's wealth. You could help your rich friends get richer by cutting their taxes. And bailing them out when they gamble and lose. You could ignore the needs of the poor for health care and education. Your media would appear free, but would secretly be controlled by one person and his family. You could wiretap phones. You could torture foreign prisoners. You could have rigged elections. You could lie about why you go to war. You could fill your prisons with one particular racial group, and no one would complain. You could use the media to scare the people into supporting policies that are against their interests.

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Paper_Okami
08/31/18 9:02:49 PM
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he's not wrong
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Kazi1212
08/31/18 9:03:05 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
He's still alive?


Yea, still talking about the injustices of the US government every chance he gets lol
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Garioshi
08/31/18 9:04:06 PM
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100% correct.
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theAteam
08/31/18 9:05:35 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
General Aladeen sums up America perfectly.

Why are you guys so anti-dictators? Imagine if America was a dictatorship. You could let 1% of the people have all the nation's wealth. You could help your rich friends get richer by cutting their taxes. And bailing them out when they gamble and lose. You could ignore the needs of the poor for health care and education. Your media would appear free, but would secretly be controlled by one person and his family. You could wiretap phones. You could torture foreign prisoners. You could have rigged elections. You could lie about why you go to war. You could fill your prisons with one particular racial group, and no one would complain. You could use the media to scare the people into supporting policies that are against their interests.


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Paper_Okami
08/31/18 9:07:23 PM
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Spooking posted...
Noam trying to stay relevant by making outlandish statements.


what is outlandish about it?

The U.S has a factional history of constantly invading and undermining other countries
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Axiom
08/31/18 9:07:37 PM
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I mean when you look at the history of just the CIA it's hard to argue against it >_>
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Dagon_0
08/31/18 9:09:18 PM
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He's right.
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Kazi1212
08/31/18 9:09:46 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
How the fuck do people still not know how to link to stuff they googled?


Why, is it a problem if I dont know? Does it say something deep about me? How about instead of taking a condescending tone to something so asinine you try to be helpful and tell me how to link the way you prefer. Its really not that hard
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Kazi1212
08/31/18 9:11:12 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
But really why are you posting this article from 2015?


Some guy posted the American government is a terrorist and got modded. Im trying to see if I would got modded for saying something similar with an appeal to authority
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Kazi1212
08/31/18 9:12:02 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
How the fuck do people still not know how to link to stuff they googled?


Why, is it a problem if I dont know? Does it say something deep about me? How about instead of taking a condescending tone to something so asinine you try to be helpful and tell me how to link the way you prefer. Its really not that hard

Waaaaaaaaaa


Sure, Im the one whos whiny in this interaction, makes perfect sense. I would love to live in your world someday
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Balrog0
08/31/18 9:12:42 PM
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he isnt wrong
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Antifar
08/31/18 9:14:28 PM
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MLK referred to the US government as "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world." we haven't exactly gotten better about that over the past 50 years
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RoboLaserGandhi
08/31/18 9:16:06 PM
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Edgy 13 year old statement from a grown ass man
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Paper_Okami
08/31/18 9:16:46 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Edgy 13 year old statement from a grown ass man


the rest of the world agrees
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silentwing26x
08/31/18 9:20:15 PM
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No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy
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Paper_Okami
08/31/18 9:21:07 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy


what is wrong with what he said?

refute it
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E32005
08/31/18 9:22:09 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy

one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century. and you're....who?
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Kazi1212
08/31/18 9:23:52 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy


To be fair, Chomsky has effectively been saying the same thing about the US even during his younger years.
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Kazi1212
08/31/18 9:27:34 PM
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So when a poster says the US is a terrorist organization, the topic is very quickly modded. But when someone else of authority is quoted as saying that, the mods are perfectly fine with it. Im not sure if thats fair?
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Tmaster148
08/31/18 9:27:59 PM
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Oh look, Proudclad sees something he doesn't like so he calls it communist.
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RoboLaserGandhi
08/31/18 9:28:15 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Edgy 13 year old statement from a grown ass man


the rest of the world agrees

tHe ReSt Of ThE wOrLd
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silentwing26x
08/31/18 9:31:59 PM
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E32005 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy

one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century. and you're....who?


he's a lunatic
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sobergermanguy
08/31/18 9:33:17 PM
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He's right ya know
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Balrog0
08/31/18 9:34:58 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
E32005 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy

one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century. and you're....who?


You don't understand, he's a programmer making more than minimum wage who's read a few Steven Pinker books


whoa lets not get so personal
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GATTJT
08/31/18 9:35:57 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
E32005 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy

one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century. and you're....who?


he's a lunatic

Why are you bringing Trump into this?
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Kazi1212
08/31/18 9:36:09 PM
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silentwing26x posted...
E32005 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy

one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century. and you're....who?


he's a lunatic


Taking his personal opinions aside, like this one, I think hes done a fantastic job detailing the facts about the actions of the US government in the geopolitical realm. To me, he has done a great service to the public outlining the stuff the US government does that you never hear about in the media
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silentwing26x
08/31/18 9:38:06 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
E32005 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
No surprise CE's rabid leftists / outright communists agree with this old man's dementia-induced lunacy

one of the most brilliant minds of the 20th century. and you're....who?


You don't understand, he's a programmer making more than minimum wage who's read a few Steven Pinker books


And your parents pay for all your expenses and have coddled you your entire adult life while you've read Marx
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Talk2DaHand
08/31/18 9:39:11 PM
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He's right. Our military industrial complex is out of control.
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RainblowDash
08/31/18 9:39:52 PM
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US is the best country
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The Great Muta 22
08/31/18 9:41:08 PM
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Chomsky is someone who has had the ear of every White House up to and including the present one(hello Jared) way too fucking long.
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Sativa_Rose
08/31/18 9:42:17 PM
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He exaggerates, but the drone campaign and the way it has been conducted has made us look pretty bad. Still though, he ignores the atrocities committed by other regimes and terrorist groups by saying we are the worst in the world.
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Paper_Okami
08/31/18 9:44:36 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
he ignores the atrocities committed by other regimes and terrorist groups by saying we are the worst in the world.


what?

calling the u.s the worst isn't ignoring everybody else in any way, what an odd conclusion
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Antifar
08/31/18 9:44:55 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Chomsky is someone who has had the ear of every White House up to and including the present one(hello Jared) way too fucking long.

I am very curious to know why you believe Noam Chomsky has Jared Kushner's ear.
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The Great Muta 22
08/31/18 9:45:04 PM
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I don't hate Chomsky, mind you. After all, he did give us this quote back in 2010:

The United States is extremely lucky that no honest, charismatic figure has arisen. Every charismatic figure is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself, like McCarthy or Nixon or the evangelist preachers. If somebody comes along who is charismatic and honest this country is in real trouble because of the frustration, disillusionment, the justified anger and the absence of any coherent response. What are people supposed to think if someone says I have got an answer, we have an enemy? There it was the Jews. Here it will be the illegal immigrants and the blacks. We will be told that white males are a persecuted minority. We will be told we have to defend ourselves and the honor of the nation. Military force will be exalted. People will be beaten up. This could become an overwhelming force. And if it happens it will be more dangerous than Germany. The United States is the world power. Germany was powerful but had more powerful antagonists. I dont think all this is very far away. If the polls are accurate it is not the Republicans but the right-wing Republicans, the crazed Republicans, who will sweep the next election.

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a-c-a-b
08/31/18 9:46:24 PM
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Chomsky will go down as one of the greatest anarchist / libertarian socialist thinkers of our time.
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The Great Muta 22
08/31/18 9:46:37 PM
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Antifar posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Chomsky is someone who has had the ear of every White House up to and including the present one(hello Jared) way too fucking long.

I am very curious to know why you believe Noam Chomsky has Jared Kushner's ear.


Eh, I'm overstating for the sake of hyperbole. I don't hate Chomsky at all, but I do think he's someone who has had a major influence on US policy for better or worse for the better part of 60+ years, that's all.
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alt_no_1_loves
08/31/18 9:48:55 PM
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Article is from 2015, coulda mentioned that in the first post. But all that detail does is buttress the claim. The US, under Bush and then under Obama (and surely now under Trump), has killed hundreds (and far more likely thousands) of civilians, from populations with little to no power to speak out about it, in pursuit of killing terrorists. And if killing civilians via drone strikes on "suspected militants" doesn't qualify as terrorism, not much else should.
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