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The Great Muta 22
08/31/18 9:37:54 PM
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I'm not reading through shit shit hole of a topic, but just have to say I feel bad that a person suffering from a clear mental break is now dead. Just upsetting all around, and something that happens far too often in this county. We need to take better care of our mentally ill and not just let them die on the street.
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Touch
08/31/18 9:50:34 PM
#102:


Zikten posted...
Touch posted...
"Yeah they shouldn't have killed her they shouldve waited until she shot and potentially killed one of them

it was a bb gun

Hindsight is 20/20
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ShotOJameson
08/31/18 9:54:16 PM
#103:


KStateKing17 posted...
This is just unfortunate


This. I can't fault the police here.
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Tyranthraxus
08/31/18 10:26:38 PM
#105:


DerRickSanchez posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
DerRickSanchez posted...
Cops are cowards. Preserve life should should be job number one, criminal or not

Anytime a criminal isn't brought alive to be prosecuted should be seen as a failure

They have to preserve there own life too, genius. Waiting until the person has fired the gun a couple times to make sure it's not a pellet gun is a failure as well. Now you're looking at multiple dead people, and only one of them even did something criminal.

You give up preserving your own life when you sign up for the job, you wouldn't expect a firefighter to think about preserving his own life in a fire would you?

Firefighters are not required to enter certain death to try to save someone.
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DerRickSanchez
09/01/18 12:33:50 AM
#106:


*burp* the analogous situation I was implying was a firefighter going in to save someone then leaving them because they'd rather rather save themselves
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Sephiroth1288
09/01/18 12:38:03 AM
#107:


DerRickSanchez posted...
*burp* the analogous situation I was implying was a firefighter going in to save someone then leaving them because they'd rather rather save themselves

Firefighters don't enter buildings that they deem too dangerous...

A crazed person armed with what looks like a gun is analogous to one of those buildings too dangerous for firefighters to consider entering, yeah?
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/01/18 12:38:35 AM
#108:


L0Z posted...
topic title had me thinking the bb gun was part of a set while filming for a tv show and some dumb cop unaware of any tv show filming going on shot her

That was the point
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Trigg3rH4ppy
09/01/18 12:40:12 AM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
A bit of a tangent but she's a former actress since the period she acted was 2 decades ago. It'd be like saying US President Bill Clinton.


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DerRickSanchez
09/01/18 12:42:08 AM
#110:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
DerRickSanchez posted...
*burp* the analogous situation I was implying was a firefighter going in to save someone then leaving them because they'd rather rather save themselves

Firefighters don't enter buildings that they deem too dangerous...

A crazed person armed with what looks like a gun is analogous to one of those buildings too dangerous for firefighters to consider entering, yeah?

No it's not, the situation was a crazed person having seizures police were there for 90 minutes then a BB gun was pulled
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Sephiroth1288
09/01/18 12:43:32 AM
#111:


DerRickSanchez posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
DerRickSanchez posted...
*burp* the analogous situation I was implying was a firefighter going in to save someone then leaving them because they'd rather rather save themselves

Firefighters don't enter buildings that they deem too dangerous...

A crazed person armed with what looks like a gun is analogous to one of those buildings too dangerous for firefighters to consider entering, yeah?

No it's not, the situation was a crazed person having seizures police were there for 90 minutes then a BB gun was pulled

Don't blame me for running with your dumbass analogy.
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DerRickSanchez
09/01/18 12:44:33 AM
#112:


Analogy is spot on with the right iq
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immaWHOOPdatASS
09/01/18 12:45:19 AM
#113:


What a shitty topic title that leaves out the most vital part of the story
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Sephiroth1288
09/01/18 12:46:59 AM
#114:


DerRickSanchez posted...
Analogy is spot on with the right iq

Firefighters aren't expected to give up their lives to save everybody. Neither are police.

Your analogy sucks.
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RainblowDash
09/01/18 4:39:24 AM
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Why was she trying to attack the police??
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Kineth
09/01/18 4:47:34 AM
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Th3Truth posted...
DerRickSanchez posted...
Analogy is spot on with the right iq

Yeah, double digits.


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Grischnak
09/01/18 6:27:32 AM
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RainblowDash posted...
Why was she trying to attack the police??


Probably suicide by cop. That or some sort of violent psychotic break. Suicide by cop seems more likely though.
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hockeybub89
09/01/18 10:25:04 AM
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ToPoPO posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
90 minutes and they couldn't find someone that knows how the fuck to deal with mental illness?


lol, they offered her medical assistance for 90 minutes, how do you know that they didn't have someone who knew how to deal with mental illness?

Just sounds like plain ignorance thinking that someone who is trained in mental illness can always defuse a situation no matter what

She was freaking out for 90 minutes before brandishing a BB gun. You'd think someone would have figured out how to deal with a seizing middle aged woman in that timeframe.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
09/01/18 10:32:31 AM
#121:


Zikten posted...
also studies show that more ofthen than not, cop encounters with the mentally ill end with fatalities of the mentally ill. cops are not trained on how to deal with crazy people

Studies show cops shoot people who act dangerously and irrationally who pose a threat

you dont say
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JuanCarlos1
09/01/18 10:34:23 AM
#122:


Fair, next?

She took out what seemed to be a gun at the moment directly to the police.

Theres no time to check if its real or not.

That said, police should have tasers or other means of de escalating a situation other than guns.
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silentwing26x
09/01/18 10:34:35 AM
#123:


Roshon posted...
Police need to be re-trained. This is not okay.


lmfao so was @Roshon a gimmick shitposter all along???
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MangaFan462
09/01/18 10:41:49 AM
#124:


Grischnak posted...
RainblowDash posted...
Why was she trying to attack the police??


Probably suicide by cop. That or some sort of violent psychotic break. Suicide by cop seems more likely though.


How idiotic and tragic
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Grischnak
09/01/18 3:24:31 PM
#125:


JuanCarlos1 posted...
Fair, next?

She took out what seemed to be a gun at the moment directly to the police.

Theres no time to check if its real or not.

That said, police should have tasers or other means of de escalating a situation other than guns.


Most police do carry tasers, pepper spray and batons. It's just that they weren't there to arrest her. They were doing a wellness check. They only shot her because she pulled a weapon on them. And you don't counter what appears to be a gun with a non-lethal weapon. The fail rate on non-lethals is too high.
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hockeybub89
09/01/18 3:35:28 PM
#126:


Grischnak posted...
JuanCarlos1 posted...
Fair, next?

She took out what seemed to be a gun at the moment directly to the police.

Theres no time to check if its real or not.

That said, police should have tasers or other means of de escalating a situation other than guns.


Most police do carry tasers, pepper spray and batons. It's just that they weren't there to arrest her. They were doing a wellness check. They only shot her because she pulled a weapon on them. And you don't counter what appears to be a gun with a non-lethal weapon. The fail rate on non-lethals is too high.

They had 90 minutes to do something before she even touched a gun.
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rikasa
09/01/18 3:36:15 PM
#127:


The two time... 1994-1997... two time back to back to back, multiple years back to back to back CONSECUTIVE years, the ER actress who is best known for her role as a recurring nurse.
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Monolith1676
09/01/18 3:47:37 PM
#128:


Sounds like she didn't meet the full 5150 criteria so they couldn't take her to a mental hospital without her consent and probably spent most of that time trying to talk her into going to a mental hospital. It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
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Grischnak
09/01/18 4:03:20 PM
#129:


hockeybub89 posted...
They had 90 minutes to do something before she even touched a gun.


So what are implying? They should have tased a mentally ill lady who had committed no crime and who was having medical issues because she was being difficult?
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Kineth
09/02/18 8:44:27 AM
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Got 'em, I guess?
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