Current Events > Modern millennial applying for a job

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- Obtains degree in Liberal Arts and Sciences
- Spams 10 resumes randomly on indeed
- No one responds
- Comes on internet forums and cries about "how hard life is" and how "everyone is out to get them"
- Throw in some vague communism/socialism shit
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My favorites are the users who still say the economy is terrible despite there being more job openings now that literally any other time in history.
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Lol wow is the random CE poster out of touch with the real world.
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Thats generous to say they put in 10 attempts lol
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I'm a millennial, and when I got out of high school (10 years ago) the job economy actually did really suck.

It's fine now.
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A bunch of McJobs being open doesn't exactly indicate that people are making ends meet.
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The Admiral posted...

My favorites are the users who still say the economy is terrible despite there being more job openings now that literally any other time in history.

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The Admiral posted...

My favorites are the users who still say the economy is terrible despite there being more job openings now that literally any other time in history.

There's also more people than any other time in history

I mean stats like that aren't very useful on their own. A better one would be "what is the chance of gainful employment based on job applications" or "what is the rate of wage inflation"

Like I know it tickles you to think that millennials want genuine opportunities and all that but not everyone is enamoured that McDonalds has an opening for fry cook
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lilORANG posted...

A bunch of McJobs being open doesn't exactly indicate that people are making ends meet.

Well what bills do you have that a McJob wont cover?

Oh right, $100k+ in student loans for a useless degree
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This topic is asking for toxic arguments and trolling, lol
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MangaFan462 posted...

Well what bills do you have that a McJob wont cover?

you think 8 bucks an hour will get you by in any major city? Rent alone would eat that up.
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MangaFan462 posted...

lilORANG posted...

A bunch of McJobs being open doesn't exactly indicate that people are making ends meet.

Well what bills do you have that a McJob wont cover?

Oh right, $100k+ in student loans for a useless degree

This meme is so tired and it's like you won't even listen when barebone facts are presented

People earn less money now than they used to, even adjusting for inflation. People's dollars go less far than they use to. The ability to support a family does not extend to average single income families anymore. Things simply cost more than they used to.

These are very simple facts that take like 3 minutes of calculating to figure out but still we have "these darn millennials aren't prepared to work" being bandied around all the time
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lilORANG posted...

MangaFan462 posted...

Well what bills do you have that a McJob wont cover?

you think 8 bucks an hour will get you by in any major city? Rent alone would eat that up.

Get a roommate or dont live in a major city if a McJob is all you can get.

Be smart.
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lilORANG posted...

MangaFan462 posted...

Well what bills do you have that a McJob wont cover?

you think 8 bucks an hour will get you by in any major city? Rent alone would eat that up.

Not when you tell your employer that you're not willing to work more than 10 hours a week you won't
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lilORANG posted...

A bunch of McJobs being open doesn't exactly indicate that people are making ends meet.

Forgot to mention this one. Whining that only jobs available are in fast food or retail, when in reality there are more skilled jobs than American students have STEM skills to fill. And theyre even easier for Americans now that fewer visas are being issued, since companies used to go overseas to find skills Americans dont have by virtue of majoring in useless liberal arts garbage.
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this is taking the piss out of my topic isnt it
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Millennial interview:

>Shows up covered in tattoos and high out of his fucking mind, reeks of marijuana
>"Fucking racist employers didn't hire me!"
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As a person who made a job shift, more job openings is a bit of a misnomer. There are actually more and more job openings asking for unicorns than there are more inclusive job offers. Say, the ratio of 3+ years requirement vs. an entry level 1-2 experience is massively skewed to 3+ years, that's not to say some job markets have small teams for that job sector and is like 80% listing for senior members, which are 5-7+ years asking with super high end req. I don't think anybody who's under the age of 25 would ever say the job market is better than ever for younger workers because it's just plain not true.

That is also to say, I've worked with people around my age and is a thing that I notice very commonly. But I know Admiral is the kind to be a contrarian even if it means that he's wrong. Using phrases like it's easier this, it's easier that without any irl examples

I do wonder if he even has a job that's not retail
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The Admiral posted...

My favorites are the users who still say the economy is terrible despite there being more job openings now that literally any other time in history.

That's because work requirements have become ridiculous.

"We're looking for 18-25 year olds with 26-30 years of experience."
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The Admiral posted...

lilORANG posted...

A bunch of McJobs being open doesn't exactly indicate that people are making ends meet.

Forgot to mention this one. Whining that only jobs available are in fast food or retail, when in reality there are more skilled jobs than American students have STEM skills to fill. And theyre even easier for Americans now that fewer visas are being issued, since companies used to go overseas to find skills Americans dont have by virtue of majoring in useless liberal arts garbage.

Do you really think there are more STEM jobs than unemployed or underemployed people? Filling those jobs wouldn't solve the problem.

btw, the number of STEM graduates still dramatically outpaces actual STEM job openings.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/education/edlife/stem-jobs-industry-careers.html
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Kajagogo posted...

The Admiral posted...

My favorites are the users who still say the economy is terrible despite there being more job openings now that literally any other time in history.

That's because work requirements have become ridiculous.

"We're looking for 18-25 year olds with 26-30 years of experience."

And you ignore that and apply anyway. Those requirements are always pie in the sky, everyone knows that. If you have more than half of them, youre qualified.
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Reminder that TC has never had a job and that Admiral is a 40 year old who lies about working on wall street and dating supermodels

The Admiral posted...

Kajagogo posted...

The Admiral posted...

My favorites are the users who still say the economy is terrible despite there being more job openings now that literally any other time in history.

That's because work requirements have become ridiculous.

"We're looking for 18-25 year olds with 26-30 years of experience."

And you ignore that and apply anyway.

and get shot down for not having the experience
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TC must be a riot at parties
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SnapesOnAPlane posted...

Reminder that TC has never had a job and that Admiral is a 40 year old who lies about working on wall street and dating supermodels

Reminder that Rebel is an insecure vegan who gets outraged when people he doesnt like are leagues more successful than he is.
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The Admiral posted...

Kajagogo posted...

The Admiral posted...

My favorites are the users who still say the economy is terrible despite there being more job openings now that literally any other time in history.

That's because work requirements have become ridiculous.

"We're looking for 18-25 year olds with 26-30 years of experience."

And you ignore that and apply anyway. Those requirements are always pie in the sky, everyone knows that. If you have more than half of them, youre qualified.

Uhh... does that make it right? What happens to people who don't realize the requirements are horribly skewed? What happens to companies who won't give up looking for a unicorn? Because from what I've seen datas of and heard, companies don't give up that easily if they already have an established team and isn't desperate, and people submitting applications have 0 leverage and are more likely to give up on applying for a position higher than their requirement. Also they might get murdered on technical aspects of interviews when they do go through the lottery of applying to jobs higher than their actual experience and get discouraged.

I dunno what companies you've seen where it's such a disneyland for you, but when both sides don't have all the know-hows and information, these things do happen. That's why these firms that take advantage of inexperienced recent grads that help them fake resumes and do copy paste answer for interviews are so successful nowadays. If that isn't an indication that there's something wrong with the way current companies are searching for applicants, I dunno what is.

Also having gone through 2 entry level positions in 2 completely different sectors, one in purchasing and one in programming, most people don't have the capability to answer most interview questions unless specifically prepared answers for those interviews. All that matters is willingness to learn, which is impossible to discern based on these strange copy-paste interviews. And most people learn to do their jobs at the job itself. That's why some start ups and bigger profile companies are drifting from doing interviews and poaching people in events and meetups instead
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pinky0926 posted...

There's also more people than any other time in history

Thanos did nothing wrong
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TroutPaste posted...

This topic is asking for toxic arguments and trolling, lol

It's CE. Most topics are tbh.
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lilORANG posted...

you think 8 bucks an hour will get you by in any major city? Rent alone would eat that up.

Then gain a skill and don't make $8/hr

REMercsChamp posted...

Millennial interview:

>Shows up covered in tattoos and high out of his fucking mind, reeks of marijuana
>"Fucking racist employers didn't hire me!"

You started off okay, but now you're not even trying
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TroutPaste posted...

This topic is asking for toxic arguments and trolling, lol

the op is a really tired old troll and admiral uses any and all excuses to talk to himself, so yes
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Actually, applying to positions with those "pie in the sky" requirements when you don't meet them can get you blacklisted at some companies. Also, many applications are never seen by an actual human and will be automatically rejected by a program for not meeting their ridiculous minimum requirements.

REMercsChamp posted...

Millennial interview:

>Shows up covered in tattoos and high out of his fucking mind, reeks of marijuana
>"Fucking racist employers didn't hire me!"

Also this
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The Admiral posted...

SnapesOnAPlane posted...

Reminder that TC has never had a job and that Admiral is a 40 year old who lies about working on wall street and dating supermodels

Reminder that Rebel is an insecure vegan who gets outraged when people he doesnt like are leagues more successful than he is.

Not a soul on this site believes you work on wall street, and also as a realtor, and date b-list actresses and supermodels that everyone here would know

Absolutely nobody

It took me 8 months and exactly 500 applications before I got my first offer out of college last week. It is a nightmare. I did stellar in school and have more real world work experience than most in my position.

About half of the time when an employer actually calls back, they have 2 questions prepared: "Tell me about yourself" and "What are your salary expectations?" (a God damned employer should know the difference between salary and wage, btw). That's it. I assume they have quotas of interview candidates; I can't tell you how many times I never even had a chance.
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deupd_u posted...

It took me 8 months and exactly 500 applications before I got my first offer out of college last week. It is a nightmare. I did stellar in school and have more real world work experience than most in my position.

About half of the time when an employer actually calls back, they have 2 questions prepared: "Tell me about yourself" and "What are your salary expectations?" (a God damned employer should know the difference between salary and wage, btw). That's it. I assume they have quotas of interview candidates; I can't tell you how many times I never even had a chance.

What was your major?
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If there's anyone who knows about jobs it's people who spend all day trolling a dying video game message board.
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So no human adult born over like a 15 year period is working at above an entry level, if working at all?
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The premise in the OP would be funny except that some people legitimately believe it to be true.
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Im of the opinion that anyone struggling to find work is probably not willing to work out of what their major was.

Its >ok< to take a job and then keep job searching in the mean time. Nothings stopping you.

I have an extraordinarily good job right now, and I still actively search and apply to places nearly on a daily basis.
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The Admiral posted...
SUSPENDED
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CommonJoe posted...

Im of the opinion that anyone struggling to find work is probably not willing to work out of what their major was.

Its >ok< to take a job and then keep job searching in the mean time. Nothings stopping you.

I have an extraordinarily good job right now, and I still actively search and apply to places nearly on a daily basis.

How the hell do you do that when you work full time? How do you search when your boss expects you devote yourself to the company 24/7? How do you take interviews? How do you have time to prepare?

When I was working, I wasn't able to search for a new job because of all this. And now I'm not working, no one will hire me.
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CommonJoe posted...

Im of the opinion that anyone struggling to find work is probably not willing to work out of what their major was.

Its >ok< to take a job and then keep job searching in the mean time. Nothings stopping you.

I have an extraordinarily good job right now, and I still actively search and apply to places nearly on a daily basis.

You do realize that many of the people struggling to find work can't get any job at all, right?

Fast food and retail will turn you away for having a degree.

Someone with a degree in Environmental Biology can't exactly get a job as a computer systems analyst anymore than someone with no degree can. Within reason, yeah, apply for jobs out of your field, but the idea of having a field exists for a reason.

SnapesOnAPlane posted...

The Admiral posted...

SnapesOnAPlane posted...

Reminder that TC has never had a job and that Admiral is a 40 year old who lies about working on wall street and dating supermodels

Reminder that Rebel is an insecure vegan who gets outraged when people he doesn?t like are leagues more successful than he is.

Not a soul on this site believes you ?work on wall street, and also as a realtor, and date b-list actresses and supermodels that everyone here would know?

Absolutely nobody

And he was never seen again... unless he decides to return again after this suspension in several months...
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_Rinku_ posted...

Fast food and retail will turn you away for having a degree.

...fuck...
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_Rinku_ posted...

CommonJoe posted...

Im of the opinion that anyone struggling to find work is probably not willing to work out of what their major was.

Its >ok< to take a job and then keep job searching in the mean time. Nothings stopping you.

I have an extraordinarily good job right now, and I still actively search and apply to places nearly on a daily basis.

You do realize that many of the people struggling to find work can't get any job at all, right?

Fast food and retail will turn you away for having a degree.

Someone with a degree in Environmental Biology can't exactly get a job as a computer systems analyst anymore than someone with no degree can. Within reason, yeah, apply for jobs out of your field, but the idea of having a field exists for a reason.

Then dont list your schooling if youre actually running into that issue.
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DK9292 posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Fast food and retail will turn you away for having a degree.

...fuck...

Yeah, it sucks. Their thinking is "this person will immediately leave the moment they get a better offer" and they're not wrong. If I was working some $8/hr McJob and got offered some kind of office work for double that? You bet your ass I'd be gone. And then the previous employer is out the cost of training me, but not getting to retain me til they break even.

CommonJoe posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

CommonJoe posted...

Im of the opinion that anyone struggling to find work is probably not willing to work out of what their major was.

Its >ok< to take a job and then keep job searching in the mean time. Nothings stopping you.

I have an extraordinarily good job right now, and I still actively search and apply to places nearly on a daily basis.

You do realize that many of the people struggling to find work can't get any job at all, right?

Fast food and retail will turn you away for having a degree.

Someone with a degree in Environmental Biology can't exactly get a job as a computer systems analyst anymore than someone with no degree can. Within reason, yeah, apply for jobs out of your field, but the idea of having a field exists for a reason.

Then dont list your schooling if youre actually running into that issue.

Yeah, employers don't exactly appreciate it if you lie to them. It's a good way to get your application tossed in the trash.

And, for me personally, it would have been difficult to explain how almost all of my jobs for the past four years had been at a college. Employers aren't stupid and can recognize this kind of stuff.

_Rinku_ posted...

Fast food and retail will turn you away for having a degree.

If I were in this situation, I would just lie about it. There's no database where you can just enter someone's name and other personal info and their degrees pop up. If you don't say you have a degree, they'll never know. If they ask what you've been doing over the time you were in college, just make up a lie about doing landscaping for your uncle or something like that.
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