Board 8 > pxl plays Trails in the Sky and maybe other stuff

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Just got out of the prologue, talking to everyone and am going to explore a bit in the forest area i missed by wandering into the boss fight before i meant to. Playing on hard.

Game is pretty rad so far! Love the writing and characters and world and all that. Battle system is better than i was expecting too. Almost restarted early on because it was tougher than i expected, but its gotten much better as i get more skills/ep/schera. Aerial was a pretty big game changer

Also...i will finish berseria some day. Some day. Have also been playing divinity original sin 2 with bae, which is truly excellent.
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Anyone know a good enemy to farm red seriph or whatever it is from before i move on? I need like 40 to open another slot for...somebody. probably estelle because she has aerial
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Aw yes tag.

I unfortunately don't know the answer to your question off the top of my head.
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Needs more Olivier hype
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So that area in the woods i missed was one of those zones i cant move the camera with a big, special looking tree. I assume this is relevant later? I dont think ive missed any quests
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oh ya go my trails in the sky

If you're still in Rolent, the best option IMO are Shining Poms. If you've yet to encounter them, they should be on the path from Rolent to the Bose Region Checkpoint (the way to the Farm is on this road.) I think they're on the third screen/last one before the checkpoint.

They're these little sparkling white creatures. They don't always spawn when you enter the area, but you can just move to a different screen then re-enter until they do. Once you get in battle with them, unload your S-Crafts on them, they're tough little guys.

Other than Poms... IIRC some enemies on the trail north of Rolent that leads to the mine/tower has some guys that drop Fire Sepith but I'm seriously doing this from memory and am not positive about that.
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My biggest complaint so far is no dungeon maps. Why this
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pxlated posted...

So that area in the woods i missed was one of those zones i cant move the camera with a big, special looking tree. I assume this is relevant later? I dont think ive missed any quests

Yeah, don't worry about that place for now.
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Also thanks, the trail to the mine was going to be my guess, will try the poms tho
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Taaaag

There are some secret/hidden quests for the record, though I don't think there are any in the prologue. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Also you might have realized this already, but NPC dialogue updates pretty frequently in this game, and it's also more substantial dialogue than in most RPG's. I don't recommend trying really hard to make sure you read every line of dialogue from every NPC (which some people do) because that can be exhausting, but I think it's good to know that this is a part of the game if you like that sort of thing.
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pyresword posted...

There are some secret/hidden quests for the record, though I don't think there are any in the prologue. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

No, you are correct. No hidden quests in the Prologue.
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Ive been talking to everyone as much as possible. I think i got one quest in the prologue through talking to someone that wasnt posted to the board.

Are these hidden quests hidden in ways other than just talking to people?
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Also if you aren't checking chests twice

Get in the habit

pxlated posted...

Are these hidden quests hidden in ways other than just talking to people?

There is one like that, yeah. It is the exception though.
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Like, twice immediately?

Edit: also ill just go ahead and pull up a quest list
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Managed to kill *one* of those poms after grinding up a bunch of cp. Not sure im equipped to take out more as it is that one dropped 20 of every kind but took too long for me to want to do that again
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Haha, yeah, like I said, they're tough.

Later (I'm not sure you can have the necessary quartz at this point) you can get the spell Shadow Spear (5 Time) which is a Time Spell with a 20% chance of Instant Death. Poms aren't immune to that, so you can just spam the spell at them and hope you get it to trigger before they run. That's a less taxing way than having to use all your craft points to S-Craft them down.

There's a Shining Pom encounter in each region with the later ones giving more Sepith (and EXP.) They're usually the most efficient way to gather any sepith (or level grinding) but the Prologue is the one time where it may be questionable given the resources you need to commit to beat them.
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you don't even have to kill any shining poms to get sepith - if you hit them on a turn with sepith up, they'll drop some anyway

(even better when aligned with a multi-hit attack)
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th3l3fty posted...

you don't even have to kill any shining poms to get sepith - if you hit them on a turn with sepith up, they'll drop some anyway

(even better when aligned with a multi-hit attack)

Just discovered that. Went and did a pass through the trail to the mines, then did the pom again since i had filled my cp. Killed one but hit others and got 58 of everything this time. Pretty nice
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Part of me wants to grind out all the rest of my slots before moving on

I will probably just stop once i get the second to last for everyone though, since I'm almost there anyway
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pxlated posted...

Like, twice immediately?

Yea

Getting shadow spear was easiee than i thought so i have been grinding out all the slots. Just one more left for schera

Can she not learn shadow spear? I have her with 5 time but it doesnt show up
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Once i get all the slots, do i never get more ep?

Also, i have gotten a couple equipment drops from poms. Are equipment drops a thing i want to pay attention too/is there stuff i can miss without it?

Maybe i should look up missables on one of the forums for it
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pretty sure you don't need to grind in this game. or worry much about equipment and stuff.

Well, i am playing on hard.

It hasnt been so bad since the first few hours but those first few were rough.

Also i grinded the slots not so much for stats but for ep. So i can use arts more freely and less backtracking to healing spots
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you really didn't need to grind...
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Shrug. It didnt take very long, i had a podcast on while doing so, and extra ep is comfy.

With the turbo its not bad at all. One hour of mindless grinding to a podcast.
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not to judge, but why play on hard then?
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Uhh

I gained maybe one level doing so?

The intent, and result, wasnt to become overlevelled. The intent was to not have to run back and forth to restore points for ep like i was doing in the beginning.
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"Not to judge but here, let me judge you"

Not sure why this is something people got hung up on

Also when you factor in how many battles i skipped/ran from because i was out of ep (battles that werent outside the scope of normal play), i didnt really end up far ahead of where i would be. That hour wss mostly spent resetting to get good rng against poms
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This is me judging you
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I'm kind of wondering how you're running out of EP so much its a problem (are you not using crafts?), but honestly it doesn't matter too much.

You'd be maxed unlocked orbments or almost maxed on Estelle and Joshua by the end of Chapter 1 anyway.

I was using crafts, yes.
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try avoiding battles
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I was? I said that already. But i prefer to do that as little as possible.

I dont generally play games to avoid the gameplay.

Thanks for the condescending advice on a problem I didnt ask for help with and already discussed having found a solution for, though!
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pxlated posted...

Getting shadow spear was easiee than i thought so i have been grinding out all the slots. Just one more left for schera

Can she not learn shadow spear? I have her with 5 time but it doesnt show up

She can. Everyone can learn any spell. And the Bracer Notebook shows you every spell and its requirements. I'm pretty sure Shadow Spear is 5 Time. That's another thing I did from memory. The Bracer Notebook's page on Arts will tell you for sure.

The only other thing I can think of for why Schera isn't learning it if the requirement is right is that you don't have all the time on one line.

In case you don't know, the game checks the element totals for each line and looks at the line totals to determine what arts you have access to. So, if you have 3 Time on Line 1 and 2 on Line 2 it won't work because the game sees 3 and 2, not 5. Lines start from the center slot and on PC should be color coded I think.

The takeaway is that generally speaking, less lines are better for casters and so are longer lines. The ideal caster orbment would be a single line. If my explanation didn't make sense I think that's another thing that has a page or two in the Bracer Notebook so you could check its explanation.

pxlated posted...

Once i get all the slots, do i never get more ep?

Also, i have gotten a couple equipment drops from poms. Are equipment drops a thing i want to pay attention too/is there stuff i can miss without it?

Maybe i should look up missables on one of the forums for it

Yeah. There are quartz later on that increase your EP but that takes up a quartz slot obviously. Otherwise, unlocking slots is the only way you increase EP.

I wouldn't worry about equipment. There are missable equipment and items but I would not stress about that at all honestly. If that is concern for you anyway, you're likely going to want a guide for that - your main target will be the Carnelia series of books. If you have the complete set you can trade them in for a weapon near the end of the game. But collecting them all can be very difficult without a guide.
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You need to replay the game on Nightmare for all of the cheevos anyway IIRC so really don't worry about missables now
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xp1337 posted...

pxlated posted...

Getting shadow spear was easiee than i thought so i have been grinding out all the slots. Just one more left for schera

Can she not learn shadow spear? I have her with 5 time but it doesnt show up

She can. Everyone can learn any spell. And the Bracer Notebook shows you every spell and its requirements. I'm pretty sure Shadow Spear is 5 Time. That's another thing I did from memory. The Bracer Notebook's page on Arts will tell you for sure.

The only other thing I can think of for why Schera isn't learning it if the requirement is right is that you don't have all the time on one line.

In case you don't know, the game checks the element totals for each line and looks at the line totals to determine what arts you have access to. So, if you have 3 Time on Line 1 and 2 on Line 2 it won't work because the game sees 3 and 2, not 5. Lines start from the center slot and on PC should be color coded I think.

The takeaway is that generally speaking, less lines are better for casters and so are longer lines. The ideal caster orbment would be a single line. If my explanation didn't make sense I think that's another thing that has a page or two in the Bracer Notebook so you could check its explanation.

pxlated posted...

Once i get all the slots, do i never get more ep?

Also, i have gotten a couple equipment drops from poms. Are equipment drops a thing i want to pay attention too/is there stuff i can miss without it?

Maybe i should look up missables on one of the forums for it

Yeah. There are quartz later on that increase your EP but that takes up a quartz slot obviously. Otherwise, unlocking slots is the only way you increase EP.

I wouldn't worry about equipment. There are missable equipment and items but I would not stress about that at all honestly. If that is concern for you anyway, you're likely going to want a guide for that - your main target will be the Carnelia series of books. If you have the complete set you can trade them in for a weapon near the end of the game. But collecting them all can be very difficult without a guide.

Oh, i see. That makes sense then. Should take another look at the book. Thanks

NFUN posted...

You need to replay the game on Nightmare for all of the cheevos anyway IIRC so really don't worry about missables now

I dont care about achievements
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pxlated posted...

I dont care about achievements

Now this is me really judging you
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i'm sorry, i thought i was being helpful by letting you know you don't need to spend time on that. i didn't see you were on hard mode though. you can play how you like. it's just a long game with a LOT of battles, especially if you do sidequests and fight stuff. if you enjoy the grinding then no problem.

Dels posted...

i'm sorry, i thought i was being helpful by letting you know you don't need to spend time on that. i didn't see you were on hard mode though. you can play how you like. it's just a long game with a LOT of battles, especially if you do sidequests and fight stuff. if you enjoy the grinding then no problem.

Nah you're good.

I probably wont grind again after this unless i get stuck somewhere. I just wanted max comfy asap
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Also damn, I'm in bose now. Tooo many people to talk to.

Is it pretty easy to tell which ones are going to be important/worth talking to every time? Ones with portraits are a given, but aside from that?
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NFUN is wrong anyway

FC/SC don't have difficulty-based achievements
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also there's no such thing as too many people to talk to

I talked to every NPC every time they got new dialog >_>
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You absolute madman

Im probably going to end up doing that though out of compulsion
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bose has one or two npc storylines I actually like. They're irrelevant, just part of the charm.
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Im definitely not overleveled
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The way exp scaling works in this game makes it difficult to get either significantly under- or over-leveled, I think
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Oh boy. This guy at the bar while I was waiting for morgan is going to be fun
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