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ForestLogic
08/23/18 12:18:25 PM
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Just saw first episode of season 3. Dunno where they'll eventually go with it, but I'm really not a fan of the whole "Your fellow man are the real monsters" trope that gets thrown into media like this. It's overdone at this point IMO.
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Gunpo
08/23/18 12:20:20 PM
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It's been like that
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spanky1
08/23/18 12:25:13 PM
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I stopped watching after the first season.

Did they ever explain where the monsters come from or what the fuck is going on? Spoil it for me please.
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spikethedevil
08/23/18 12:28:23 PM
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@LordChad Fuck off with the unmarked spoilers.
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Pepys Monster
08/23/18 12:28:37 PM
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It's boring how zombie movie directors think they're being original when they peddle this old, tired cliche. Now Attack on Titan is doing it?
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Veggeta X
08/23/18 12:30:00 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
It's boring how zombie movie directors think they're being original when they peddle this old, tired cliche. Now Attack on Titan is doing it?

I've been saying this shit decades ago. This is why Zombie shit is so bad IMO but people eat this shit up. The theme of "Humans are the real monsters" is a horrible trope in Zombies or anything horror.
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ThanksUglyGod
08/23/18 12:30:05 PM
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Glad I jumped ship for The Promised Neverland
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Pepys Monster
08/23/18 12:30:22 PM
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LordChad posted...
spikethedevil posted...
@LordChad Fuck off with the unmarked spoilers.

what are you talking about, spanky1 is the one asking about it

The rest of us didn't. You didn't even use spoiler tags.
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spikethedevil
08/23/18 12:31:17 PM
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@LordChad Your first fucking post and when someone askes you should still mark your spoilers.
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Pepys Monster
08/23/18 12:31:42 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
It's boring how zombie movie directors think they're being original when they peddle this old, tired cliche. Now Attack on Titan is doing it?

I've been saying this shit decades ago. This is why Zombie shit is so bad IMO but people eat this shit up. The theme of "Humans are the real monsters" is a horrible trope in Zombies or anything horror.

It's not even true. SOME humans are psychopaths, but the zombies devouring people are ALL monsters.
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BLAKUboy
08/23/18 12:31:56 PM
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That's always where the story was going. There's many things to hate about this show, but that plot was set up from the start.

LordChad posted...
what are you talking about, spanky1 is the one asking about it

You still have to tag spoilers.
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meestermj
08/23/18 12:32:43 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
LordChad posted...
spikethedevil posted...
@LordChad Fuck off with the unmarked spoilers.

what are you talking about, spanky1 is the one asking about it

The rest of us didn't. You didn't even use spoiler tags.

This. Very inconsiderate to not use spoiler tags.
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teepan95
08/23/18 12:33:54 PM
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Mark him and move on
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ROBANN_88
08/23/18 12:34:32 PM
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i've already marked him
i think that's the first time i've reported anyone, in like, 8-10 years
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Smashingpmkns
08/23/18 12:34:47 PM
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The third season is already airing?
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voldothegr8
08/23/18 12:35:20 PM
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Fuck off with the untagged spoilers Hoth
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/23/18 12:39:35 PM
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spanky1 posted...
I stopped watching after the first season.

Did they ever explain where the monsters come from or what the fuck is going on? Spoil it for me please.


Titans are all part of one ethnic group of "humans" descended from the first one to gain the power of the titans from the Earth Devil, or something like that. She died young but split her power into 9 other major Titans. Her descendents took over a nation called Marley and turned it into their own nation, Eldia. Once that was done though, they engaged in Civil War between one another for a super long time, until Marley was resurrected and they found a way to basically control the Eldin people (Titans) as machines of war.

Those who could flee from the war did so to Paradis Island, and the Founding Titan (who Eren has inherited) controlled all the other Titans around it to construct the three major walls and I think also alter their memories so nobody has any recollection of these events?

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Solar_Crimson
08/23/18 12:40:09 PM
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I'm glad I don't care about AoT, but I feel bad for the TC because he's tagged in those unmarked spoilers.
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Veggeta X
08/23/18 12:40:27 PM
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Yeah it's become a cesspool.
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ForestLogic
08/23/18 12:48:54 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
That's always where the story was going.


How.

The entire first season focuses entirely on how horrible the titans are and how humanity has been backed into a corner. It gives very little exposition on them and leaves it open for a good mystery.

The second season focuses on the titans again, but giving some clues about where they may have come from, and some dark mad scientist shit going. There's some hints about it, but the plot is still focused on them battling the Titans and figuring out how to get rid of them.

Then season 3 just immediately starts off with politics and government corruption bullshit that was only ever lightly touched on, if at all in the first 40 or so episodes. It came out of nowhere.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/23/18 12:50:31 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
That's always where the story was going.


How.

The entire first season focuses entirely on how horrible the titans are and how humanity has been backed into a corner. It gives very little exposition on them and leaves it open for a good mystery.

The second season focuses on the titans again, but giving some clues about where they may have come from, and some dark mad scientist shit going. There's some hints about it, but the plot is still focused on them battling the Titans and figuring out how to get rid of them.

Then season 3 just immediately starts off with politics and government corruption bullshit that was only ever lightly touched on, if at all in the first 40 or so episodes. It came out of nowhere.


I actually personally enjoy the politics and government stuff a lot. Especially once you get into the history of Marley vs. Eldia, the subjugation of The Titan's, and who is really good or bad in any of this
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spanky1
08/23/18 2:22:09 PM
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i wanna bang one of those hot titans
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averagejoel
08/23/18 2:27:09 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
Then season 3 just immediately starts off with politics and government corruption bullshit that was only ever lightly touched on, if at all in the first 40 or so episodes. It came out of nowhere.

dude their society is fascist and heavily corrupt. if that wasn't blindingly obvious in the first two seasons then I don't know what to tell you
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BLAKUboy
08/23/18 3:27:35 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
How.

All throughout the first season there are signs of it. The key for the basement clearly setting up some huge conspiracy, plus the injection Eren received that turned him into a Titan as well as whatever the girl titan's name was being a spy clearly indicating the Titans are not what you're led to believe. Humans being able to turn into Titans make the story's path all too obivous.

ForestLogic posted...
Then season 3 just immediately starts off with politics and government corruption bullshit that was only ever lightly touched on, if at all in the first 40 or so episodes. It came out of nowhere.

Bruh, the politics were always there.
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ForestLogic
08/23/18 3:41:33 PM
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averagejoel posted...
ForestLogic posted...
Then season 3 just immediately starts off with politics and government corruption bullshit that was only ever lightly touched on, if at all in the first 40 or so episodes. It came out of nowhere.

dude their society is fascist and heavily corrupt. if that wasn't blindingly obvious in the first two seasons then I don't know what to tell you


I'm sorry that in a show about mankind fighting against mysterious giants montsers, I focused mostly on the mysterious giants part. That was silly of me.
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Thatuser
08/23/18 3:42:33 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
averagejoel posted...
ForestLogic posted...
Then season 3 just immediately starts off with politics and government corruption bullshit that was only ever lightly touched on, if at all in the first 40 or so episodes. It came out of nowhere.

dude their society is fascist and heavily corrupt. if that wasn't blindingly obvious in the first two seasons then I don't know what to tell you


I'm sorry that in a show about mankind fighting against mysterious giants montsers, I focused mostly on the mysterious giants part. That was silly of me.

No, just not observant.
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FL81
08/23/18 3:42:42 PM
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I liked the first season, second season really sucked

probably not going to bother with the third season, especially since they got rid of the best part of the show (having a super hype opening theme)
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s0nicfan
08/23/18 3:44:35 PM
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Once attack on titan becomes about *MAJOR manga spoilers* magical jews being oppressed by a paper thin metaphor for nazi germany it just goes to absolute shit.
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ForestLogic
08/23/18 3:46:47 PM
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FL81 posted...
I liked the first season, second season really sucked

probably not going to bother with the third season, especially since they got rid of the best part of the show (having a super hype opening theme)


Oh, don't even get me started about the opening lol.

Season 1 had one of the most pumped up, legit opening sequences/music in the history of cartoons. Season 2 was decent, not as good as the original. But it was good enough.

Season 3 though lol. Sounds like the intro to something yaoi focused.
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ROBANN_88
08/23/18 4:10:54 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Once attack on titan becomes about *MAJOR manga spoilers*

i was kind of liking this view from the other sides point of view for a while.

ForestLogic posted...
Season 2 was decent, not as good as the original. But it was good enough.

but SASAGEYO is the best part
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MC_BatCommander
08/23/18 4:11:51 PM
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Wasn't that kinda obvious with how the Titans look and the whole transforming power
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Jiggy101011
08/23/18 4:22:26 PM
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Rewatching season 1 getting ready for 2 and 3. Theres plenty of politics in season 1, especially with the military police and the merchants. The first few episodes after Eren is reveales to be a Titan shows you how cruel humans are when they are shown something they dont understand.
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ForestLogic
08/23/18 4:24:53 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Wasn't that kinda obvious with how the Titans look and the whole transforming power


That's not what I'm talking about. It's incredibly obvious that there's some sort of weird mad-science stuff going on with the titans, but I'm not referring to that.

I'm talking about in season 3, where they started off by establishing the military police as the big threat now, with them trying to capture and kill Captain Levi and the scouts.
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ROBANN_88
08/23/18 4:32:47 PM
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i mean, the whole season so far has basically been about the Government somehow knowing more than they let on, and not using it to everyones best interest.
that was pretty much hinted at long ago, most notably when the Titan face appeared in the wall and the Priests reaction to it.

there's probably some of it in the Eren trial in season 1 as well.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/23/18 4:34:09 PM
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I feel like once you find out what is going on, it's a cool payoff, but the story doesn't get any better after that.
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Axiom
08/23/18 4:41:35 PM
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Lol how did you not know this. It was pretty clear from the beginning even
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/23/18 4:51:11 PM
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Axiom posted...
Lol how did you not know this. It was pretty clear from the beginning even


Cause it's just supposed to be some monster movie, not an interesting political story.
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