Current Events > California introduces bill banning soda and juice from kids meals

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/08/19/california-introduces-bill-banning-soda--juice-from-kids-meals-n2511170

The California legislature recently passed a bill banning restaurants from selling soda and juice with kids' meals and instead requires them to offer a cup of milk or water in an effort to fight childhood obesity. But, the purchaser of the meal may still buy an extra soda or juice and hand the drink to the child, thus negating whatever intended effects the bill hopes to accomplish.

The California Senate bill, 1192, passed assembly on Thursday after dieticians and various health advocates supported the new law. "Some of these kids are drinking up to three sodas a day. This is setting them up for tremendous cancer risks down the road. Because now we know that 20 percent of all cancers are tied to being overweight," Stephanie Winn of the American Cancer Society told media.

But, some parents argue that it simply is too much government interference. "I think the government shouldn't determine what's available when I as a mother know what's best with my child," Inez Deocio said.

Since the bill does not outright ban the sugar beverages from eateries, many parents will still buy their children soda or juice and end up spending more at a restaurant.

As noted by CBS, "A recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study found that almost two-thirds of boys and girls ages 2 to 19 drink at least one sugar-sweetened beverage per day. According to the CDC, frequent consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages is associated with weight gain and obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, kidney diseases, non-alcoholic liver disease, tooth decay and cavities."

The bill was introduced by Democratic state senator Bill Monning.

What a pointless bill. It still gives the power for parents to supersede the order, making this a complete waste of time.

That being said, is this where were headed as a society? Where the parent no longer knows whats best for their child?

Do these people not even realize that most families with children dont eat out all the time? They dont have the money for such luxuries. AND when they DO eat out, its a special occasion. Like, the childs birthday. So, no , sorry you cant have a soda for your birthday Timmy, so load up on hotdogs (pig snouts), greasy hamburgers, fatty French fries, greasy chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese, etc etc. shouldnt we ban normal kid food too?????

Cmon California...

Come the hell on here
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Of course parents are allowed to have the final say, but this a great idea nonetheless
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Rise of the nanny state.
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thelovefist posted...

Of course parents are allowed to have the final say, but this a great idea nonetheless

It's a terrible idea. The less the government forces people to do stuff the better.
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Kids are basically on a diet of chicken nuggets and cheeseburgers now. Maybe the government does have to step in at some point.

Also kids shouldn't be drinking 3 sodas a day.
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Caution999 posted...

Do these people not even realize that most families with children dont eat out all the time? They dont have the money for such luxuries. AND when they DO eat out, its a special occasion. Like, the childs birthday. So, no , sorry you cant have a soda for your birthday Timmy, so load up on hotdogs (pig snouts), greasy hamburgers, fatty French fries, greasy chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese, etc etc. shouldnt we ban normal kid food too?????

Cmon California...

Come the hell on here

Complete bullshit
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Good. Soda is not nutritious.

*shrug* promotes healthiness and the parents can still buy a soda if they want, increasing revenue and putting more money into the economy

win/win tbqh
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Kids are basically on a diet of chicken nuggets and cheeseburgers now. Maybe the government does have to step in at some point.

Also kids shouldn't be drinking 3 sodas a day.

If I have a family, and Im going out to eat, its a special occasion. Maybe I dont let them drink soda normally and its someones birthday and for this time, as their parent, I say its ok.

Whats wrong with indulging once in a while? Why should Uncle Sam tell me what to feed my kid?
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Soda and juice is trash
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Better idea would be to require restaurants to offer a healthy option for kids meals.
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What a surprise, liberal state passes law to give more money to corporations.
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We really do need kids to eat healthier in this country.

Make America Sexy Again

hahahah, California
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Caution999 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Kids are basically on a diet of chicken nuggets and cheeseburgers now. Maybe the government does have to step in at some point.

Also kids shouldn't be drinking 3 sodas a day.

If I have a family, and Im going out to eat, its a special occasion. Maybe I dont let them drink soda normally and its someones birthday and for this time, as their parent, I say its ok.

Whats wrong with indulging once in a while? Why should Uncle Sam tell me what to feed my kid?

I agree. If this stupid bill passes why stop there? Ban cigarettes. Ban alcohol. Ban processed sugar etc
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Caution999 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Kids are basically on a diet of chicken nuggets and cheeseburgers now. Maybe the government does have to step in at some point.

Also kids shouldn't be drinking 3 sodas a day.

If I have a family, and Im going out to eat, its a special occasion. Maybe I dont let them drink soda normally and its someones birthday and for this time, as their parent, I say its ok.

Whats wrong with indulging once in a while? Why should Uncle Sam tell me what to feed my kid?

If you only go out once in a while then you can buy a soda for $1.50 extra it seems. Young adult parents are definitely taking their kids out more than once in a while though. I'm willing to bet most meals in a week are fast food for the children.
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Caution999 posted...

The California legislature recently passed a bill banning restaurants from selling soda and juice with kids' meals and instead requires them to offer a cup of milk or water in an effort to fight childhood obesity. But, the purchaser of the meal may still buy an extra soda or juice and hand the drink to the child, thus negating whatever intended effects the bill hopes to accomplish.

This is basically a soda tax only all the money will go to the companies instead. If you make water the mandatory drink for kids' meals, which used to come with a free drink, and force parents to pay extra for the soda, all that does is drive up the price of the choice, with the extra profits going directly to megacorps. I guarantee that this bill was drafted by McDonald's or something and "offered" to the state to "help"
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Patty_Fleur posted...

If this stupid bill passes why stop there? Ban cigarettes. Ban alcohol.

We already ban those things from children.
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Better thing would be to offer a discount for a water or milk over a soft drink, tbqh

Kids meal with soft drink: $5
Kids meal with water: $3.50

something like that
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Hopefully, this doesn't impact the healthy fruit juices.
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Just tax soda, fuck it
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I think this is good for fast food restaurants which people love to complain about.

At least this way people cant blame kids meals for getting kids hooked to soda. The blame is solely on the parents specifically asking for soda.
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Caution999 posted...

Where the parent no longer knows whats best for their child?

Well, with the rise of anti-vaxxers, this may sadly be the actual case.

Blue_Dream87 posted...

Just tax soda, fuck it

i hope not. i just have 1 bad habit. everyone else probably smokes or drinks.
only drink about a few cans a day along with the water.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Just tax soda, fuck it

I don't get this. Why not just supplement healthier alternatives?

Caution999 posted...

That being said, is this where were headed as a society?

If we let liberals have their way, yes.
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Ah they need to just shut up. If the parents say they can have a soda or apple juice, it's up to them and not a bunch of busybodies.
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Yeah soda is not the cause of childhood obesity
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SparkClark posted...

Better idea would be to require restaurants to offer a healthy option for kids meals.

Which is why they also offer applejuice and milk as an alternative.
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Caution999 posted...

Where the parent no longer knows whats best for their child?

Caution999 posted...

It still gives the power for parents to supersede the order

????????????????????????????????????????
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Caution999 posted...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/08/19/california-introduces-bill-banning-soda--juice-from-kids-meals-n2511170

That being said, is this where were headed as a society? Where the parent no longer knows whats best for their child?

Do these people not even realize that most families with children dont eat out all the time? They dont have the money for such luxuries. AND when they DO eat out, its a special occasion. Like, the childs birthday. So, no , sorry you cant have a soda for your birthday Timmy, so load up on hotdogs (pig snouts), greasy hamburgers, fatty French fries, greasy chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese, etc etc. shouldnt we ban normal kid food too?????

Cmon California...

Come the hell on here

I mean they literally don't so this is a dumb argument.

Stop getting faked outraged over things because L I B E R A L S
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While I agree that children should avoid drinking soda and fruit juice, it should be the parents decision to monitor what the kid eats, rather than the governments.
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Lil_Bit83 posted...

SparkClark posted...

Better idea would be to require restaurants to offer a healthy option for kids meals.

Which is why they also offer applejuice and milk as an alternative.

apple juice is just as sugar filled as soda, though.

some restaurants offer those alternatives to soda/juice, but do all of them? probably not.

the effective thing to do here would be to force restaurants to present the healthy alternative and possibly even list the nutrition info of the drink choices on the menu.
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southcoast09 posted...

While I agree that children should avoid drinking soda and fruit juice, it should be the parents decision to monitor what the kid eats, rather than the governments.

Agreed and don't necessarily support this bill but also people are dumb
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Fact is many people are still rather ignorant when it comes to diet and nutrition. I myself was raised believing juice was healthy because it comes from fruit. I wont even get started on parents that allow their kids to drink soda. Soda can be highly addictive. The sugar content is insane.

The amount of obese children I see on day to day basis is frightening. Obesity truly is an epidemic in this country. From the lack of proper education to fast foods being so easily accessible, its only right a bill like this gets introduced.

Marketing is also a huge issue. Sure anyone can read a nutritional label, but the system needs to be reworked. A product like a bag of chips should have the full serving size listed. I hate seeing a label for a snack and itll having a serving of like 6-8 chips etc.
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Basically all this amounts to is restaurants can't include juice or soda with the kids' meals. If parents want that stuff they can buy it. What exactly is the downside?
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I feel it's pretty strange the law bans all drinks being served as part of kids drinks except for water (flavoured or not), milk and nondiary milk alternatives. I could understand restrictions on sugar, or fat in the drinks but not this.

That should be a parent's job.
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This is dumb
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literally a nation of mcribs

BUT MUH FREEDAM

parents haven't known what's best for their kids ever
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SuperShake666 posted...

Caution999 posted...

Where the parent no longer knows whats best for their child?

Caution999 posted...

It still gives the power for parents to supersede the order

????????????????????????????????????????

lol
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eston posted...

Basically all this amounts to is restaurants can't include juice or soda with the kids' meals. If parents want that stuff they can buy it. What exactly is the downside?

Government taking away more freedoms and getting its hands deeper in our lives in a free country. The government isn't supposed to be people's nannies.
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So what's stopping patents from just ordering sodas separately
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voldothegr8 posted...

eston posted...

Basically all this amounts to is restaurants can't include juice or soda with the kids' meals. If parents want that stuff they can buy it. What exactly is the downside?

Government taking away more freedoms and getting its hands deeper in our lives in a free country. The government isn't supposed to be people's nannies.

the government can't afford to take care of a whole generation of fat kids. I work with a woman with a 10 year old daughter who already won't fit in clothes that her 20 year old sister wears. way too much mdonald's
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

So what's stopping patents from just ordering sodas separately

Nothing.

FreshSushi posted...

literally a nation of mcribs

BUT MUH FREEDAM

parents haven't known what's best for their kids ever

But they're literally ignoring the policy anyway, so unless you actually take parental rights away from parents, all you're doing is jack shit. This is stupid and can fuck off.
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hockeybub89 posted...

FreshSushi posted...

literally a nation of mcribs

BUT MUH FREEDAM

parents haven't known what's best for their kids ever

But they're literally ignoring the policy anyway, so unless you actually take parental rights away from parents, all you're doing is jack shit. This is stupid and can fuck off.

the idea is that the parents will be too lazy or too cheap to actually buy a soda.
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FreshSushi posted...

literally a nation of mcribs

BUT MUH FREEDAM

parents haven't known what's best for their kids ever

But the government does, m i rite
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FreshSushi posted...

literally a nation of mcribs

BUT MUH FREEDAM

parents haven't known what's best for their kids ever

i dislike the Mcrib
bring back the beefy crunch burrito.
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