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LordChad
08/20/18 12:42:12 AM
#152:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Atralis posted...
Well lets all go with our personal choice then BBT. Certain employers won't give them employment and certain nations won't give them citizenship because they are religious radical by the standards of those employers/countries. Personal choice.

In America, we separate businesses from private organizations. Personal choice refers to individual behavior, and private not-for-profit institutes.

Too late for businesses and corporations. The Constitution specifically gave the government authority to regulate business and commerce to make them fair and tolerant to people of all classes - so long as they are doing a good job. The point of this is to prevent people in power from denying other people a fair opportunity to climb the economic ladder, over petty, arbitrary reasons. A TRUE meritocracy.

In exchange for these regulations, American government gives business special benefits and privileges that individuals and private organizations do not receive -- such as bankruptcy protection, Limited Liability, and the ability to avoid personal responsibility in many criminal proceedings.

If you want the right to be a bigot, you're more than free to do so as an individual in a non-commercial or nonprofit setting.

but the article said it's in UK, not america
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 12:42:21 AM
#153:


LordChad posted...
nope , you are just being salty. and now you deny it , like your other arguments

Nah, all evidence points to a concussion. I highly recommend going to the hospital immediately.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 12:43:02 AM
#154:


LordChad posted...
but the article said it's in UK, not america

The UK has even stricter commercial regulations regarding this. AND the UK ALSO advertises itself as an open, multicultural society.
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LordChad
08/20/18 12:46:12 AM
#155:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
LordChad posted...
nope , you are just being salty. and now you deny it , like your other arguments

Nah, all evidence points to a concussion. I highly recommend going to the hospital immediately.

after you go there first.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 12:47:20 AM
#156:


LordChad posted...
after you go there first.

You lack the creativity to come up with your own comeback. Seriously, you need a hospital ASAP.
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LordChad
08/20/18 12:50:17 AM
#157:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
LordChad posted...
after you go there first.

You lack the creativity to come up with your own comeback. Seriously, you need a hospital ASAP.


say the guy who used the "hit your head" insult.
Irony strikes you once again.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 12:52:13 AM
#158:


LordChad posted...
say the guy who used the "hit your head" insult.
Irony strikes you once again.

Nvm, I'm definitely talking to a bot. Too much repetition - even for someone suffering from CTE. I apologize.
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Atralis
08/20/18 12:54:07 AM
#159:


BBT you would condemn anyone else but Muslims for acting with this kind of religiously motivated sexist bigotry.
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LordChad
08/20/18 12:54:52 AM
#160:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
LordChad posted...
but the article said it's in UK, not america

The UK has even stricter commercial regulations regarding this. AND the UK ALSO advertises itself as an open, multicultural society.


yeah but mention usa then?

the uk company didn't reject her for being Muslim, but because she didn't want to handshake and the role she applied to , involved doing that.

Seemed you dodge that fact though
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 12:55:24 AM
#161:


Atralis posted...
BBT you would condemn anyone else but Muslims for acting with this kind of religiously motivated sexist bigotry.

I've condemned theocratic dictatorships plenty of times.
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LordChad
08/20/18 12:57:03 AM
#162:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
LordChad posted...
say the guy who used the "hit your head" insult.
Irony strikes you once again.

Nvm, I'm definitely talking to a bot. Too much repetition - even for someone suffering from CTE. I apologize.

why apologizing to a bot then? You assumed i am a bot right?

Seemed like you were the one being hit in a head , buddy
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kayoticdreamz
08/20/18 12:58:01 AM
#163:


LordChad posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
LordChad posted...
say the guy who used the "hit your head" insult.
Irony strikes you once again.

Nvm, I'm definitely talking to a bot. Too much repetition - even for someone suffering from CTE. I apologize.

why apologizing to a bot then? You assumed i am a bot right?

Seemed like you were the one being hit in a head , buddy

#botlivesmatter

strangely with the same acronym as #BLM
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 1:01:42 AM
#164:


I am apologizing to the rest of the people on this board.
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Atralis
08/20/18 1:09:57 AM
#165:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Atralis posted...
BBT you would condemn anyone else but Muslims for acting with this kind of religiously motivated sexist bigotry.

I've condemned theocratic dictatorships plenty of times.


You are drawing the line saying "well not shaking hands isn't such a radical thing is it" while knowing full well that in the same societies that make a prohibition against even touching a person of the opposite sex there is almost always extreme sexism related to everything else.

Actually fucking step back at look at yourself BBT. You are defending the rights of Muslims to treat their daughters in a medieval way from birth. Shut them in. Teach them it is forbidden to even shake a man's hand. Teach their sons that every woman they mean that IS willing to shake their hand is a whore not worthy of respect.

BBT at least admit that if you were born as an Egyptian or a Saudi and were somehow magically as left wing as you are currently you would hate people like you more than basically anyone else in the entire world. Western left wingers who support the most oppressive, sexist, and generally terrible elements in Islamic culture for no perceivable fucking reason other than that Muslims are a minority in the west.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 1:15:30 AM
#166:


Atralis posted...
You are drawing the line saying "well not shaking hands isn't such a radical thing is it" while knowing full well that in the same societies that make a prohibition against even touching a person of the opposite sex there is almost always extreme sexism related to everything else.

And in this instance, the Muslim lady isn't doing any of that. She has never advocated for any ban or discriminatory policy whatsoever. SHE is the one being banned and discriminated against.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 1:16:27 AM
#167:


Atralis posted...
BBT at least admit that if you were born as an Egyptian or a Saudi and were somehow magically as left wing as you are currently you would hate people like you more than basically anyone else in the entire world. Western left wingers who support the most oppressive, sexist, and generally terrible elements in Islamic culture for no perceivable fucking reason other than that Muslims are a minority in the west.

Well duh. And I don't know of any western left-wingers who support theocratic dictatorships and regimes.

Defending Muslims from being discriminated against =/= Supporting Theocratic dictatorships and regimes.
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LordChad
08/20/18 1:17:29 AM
#168:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
I am apologizing to the rest of the people on this board.

yeah you made big blunder on this topic.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 1:18:15 AM
#169:


LordChad posted...
yeah you made big blunder on this topic.

I agree. I didn't realize that a bot could act so stupidly.
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LordChad
08/20/18 1:20:24 AM
#170:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
LordChad posted...
yeah you made big blunder on this topic.

I agree. I didn't realize that a bot could act so stupidly.

not as stupid as the guy replying to a bot , though
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Atralis
08/20/18 1:21:13 AM
#171:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Atralis posted...
BBT at least admit that if you were born as an Egyptian or a Saudi and were somehow magically as left wing as you are currently you would hate people like you more than basically anyone else in the entire world. Western left wingers who support the most oppressive, sexist, and generally terrible elements in Islamic culture for no perceivable fucking reason other than that Muslims are a minority in the west.

Well duh. And I don't know of any western left-wingers who support theocratic dictatorships and regimes.

Defending Muslims from being discriminated against =/= Supporting Theocratic dictatorships and regimes.


And they hate people like you BBT. The few enlightened left wing progressive people in those countries fucking hate people like you BBT. Remember that.

When they are oppressed and you defend their oppressors they hate you.

When they put out their hand and a man or woman reels back in disgust and they know that people like you defend that behavior they hate you.

When the religious police beat them or their sisters for not wearing their headscarves in public and they see you defending the headscarf and a sign of religious freedom they hate you.

They hate you.

You know that don't you? They fucking hate you. They hate you for your hypocrisy and bullshit.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 1:49:26 AM
#172:


Atralis posted...
When they are oppressed and you defend their oppressors they hate you.

No one here is doing that.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 1:50:52 AM
#173:


LordChad posted...
not as stupid as the guy replying to a bot , though

Yes, I apologize for underestimating the stupidity of the bot.
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Atralis
08/20/18 1:57:36 AM
#174:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Atralis posted...
When they are oppressed and you defend their oppressors they hate you.

No one here is doing that.


You arent defending the beatings of women that dared to shake a mans hand you are defending the result. She may even still have bruises on her body from the beatings but its great because diversity. Wouldnt it be boring if she just shook hands like a regular person? Timidly refusing while looking over her shoulder is way more diverse.
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LordChad
08/20/18 1:57:57 AM
#175:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
LordChad posted...
not as stupid as the guy replying to a bot , though

Yes, I apologize for underestimating the stupidity of the bot who is smarter than the guy replying to the bot

fixed that for you
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 2:00:32 AM
#176:


Atralis posted...
You arent defending the beatings of women that dared to shake a mans hand you are defending the result. She may even still have bruises on her body from the beatings but its great because diversity. Wouldnt it be boring if she just shook hands like a regular person? Timidly refusing while looking over her shoulder is way more diverse.

How fucking bigoted of you to assume that of her.
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Atralis
08/20/18 2:01:59 AM
#177:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Atralis posted...
You arent defending the beatings of women that dared to shake a mans hand you are defending the result. She may even still have bruises on her body from the beatings but its great because diversity. Wouldnt it be boring if she just shook hands like a regular person? Timidly refusing while looking over her shoulder is way more diverse.

How fucking bigoted of you to assume that of her.


How fucking naive are you?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 2:03:08 AM
#178:


Atralis posted...
How fucking naive are you?

I am giving her the benefit of the doubt, based on what this particular individual has stated and how she has acted. You and the employer, and the Swiss officer have allowed their bigotry to assume the worst.
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MaverickXeo
08/20/18 2:26:42 AM
#179:


Shaking hands is a western thing. If they do not want to shake hands, they do not belong in the nation.

Much like if we go to their home country, we should be expected to follow their norms and rules.
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Rika_Furude
08/20/18 5:38:18 AM
#180:


pro tip: being a multi-cultural society doesn't mean you have to accept cultures that don't also accept cultures other than their own...
letting is muslims who don't integrate with their host country is only going to have a negative effect on the country they are residing in.
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DavidWong
08/20/18 5:45:27 AM
#181:


Integration doesn't mean completely abandoning your home countrys culture
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Lorenzo_2003
08/20/18 6:01:41 AM
#182:


DavidWong posted...
Integration doesn't mean completely abandoning your home countrys culture


I did not read anywhere that she was forced to convert to another religion or denounce her own. She does not respect her host country, so I don't know why TC is defending her behavior. Wait, no, I do. Reminds me of Reza Aslan, who is an apologist for Islam.
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DavidWong
08/20/18 6:04:47 AM
#183:


And she should not have been discriminated against for refusing to shake somebody's hand. Muslim or otherwise.
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Rika_Furude
08/20/18 6:09:37 AM
#184:


DavidWong posted...
And she should not have been discriminated against for refusing to shake somebody's hand. Muslim or otherwise.

She shouldn't discriminate against men by refusing to shake their hands, just because of the anti-women culture she came from and is trying to bring here...
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Funbazooka
08/20/18 6:12:25 AM
#185:


You can't make great deals without a firm handshake.
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MacDaMurderer
08/20/18 6:16:48 AM
#186:


Handshaking is a terrible greeting. Weve all been to the restroom where a guy literally takes a piss/shit and walks right out without washing their hands.
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Funbazooka
08/20/18 6:19:09 AM
#187:


MacDaMurderer posted...
Handshaking is a terrible greeting. Weve all been to the restroom where a guy literally takes a piss/shit and walks right out without washing their hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyvHqYu_KXI" data-time="

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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 11:47:33 AM
#188:


Rika_Furude posted...
pro tip: being a multi-cultural society doesn't mean you have to accept cultures that don't also accept cultures other than their own...

The prospective interview gave a heartfelt greeting that should offend nobody.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 11:48:18 AM
#189:


Rika_Furude posted...
She shouldn't discriminate against men by refusing to shake their hands, just because of the anti-women culture she came from and is trying to bring here...

She already stated that she wouldn't shake women's hands either - thus, no discrimination.
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Rika_Furude
08/20/18 3:28:45 PM
#190:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
pro tip: being a multi-cultural society doesn't mean you have to accept cultures that don't also accept cultures other than their own...

The prospective interview gave a heartfelt greeting that should offend nobody.

So? Her culture rejects other cultures. We dont have to accept her.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 4:55:38 PM
#191:


Rika_Furude posted...
So? Her culture rejects other cultures. We dont have to accept her.

You know fuck all about her culture. Who are you to judge her based solely on her religion?
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Funbazooka
08/20/18 4:57:52 PM
#192:


Why do left-wingers put Islam on a sacred gilded pedestal?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
08/20/18 5:02:10 PM
#193:


Funbazooka posted...
Why do left-wingers put Islam on a sacred gilded pedestal?

Defending individual Muslims from discrimination =/= putting Islam on a fucking pedestal.

How fucking dense do you have to get to not understand such a basic concept?
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Rimmer_Dall
08/20/18 5:02:37 PM
#194:


MacDaMurderer posted...
Handshaking is a terrible greeting. Weve all been to the restroom where a guy literally takes a piss/shit and walks right out without washing their hands.

JROB8i8
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Rika_Furude
08/20/18 5:02:43 PM
#195:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
So? Her culture rejects other cultures. We dont have to accept her.

You know fuck all about her culture. Who are you to judge her based solely on her religion?

I know her culture is anti-women, anti-lgbt and anti-foreigner. I absolutely can judge her religion for those reasons.
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PlsGodDontBanMe
08/20/18 5:04:14 PM
#196:


Why are people giving bbt the light of day.

Dudes a trolling shitposter on politics, leave him be and force him to go back
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s0nicfan
08/20/18 5:04:30 PM
#197:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Why do left-wingers put Islam on a sacred gilded pedestal?

Defending individual Muslims from discrimination =/= putting Islam on a fucking pedestal.

How fucking dense do you have to get to not understand such a basic concept?


Let's test his theory: Do you believe that Islam is better or worse than Christianity with regard to the written, legal, and officially sanctioned treatment of women and nonbelievers in modern day?
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Funbazooka
08/20/18 5:10:26 PM
#198:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Why do left-wingers put Islam on a sacred gilded pedestal?

Defending individual Muslims from discrimination =/= putting Islam on a fucking pedestal.


I don't understand why you pretend to be outraged over us judging her for being a religious zealot
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Serious Cat
08/20/18 5:18:32 PM
#199:


Funbazooka posted...
I don't understand why you pretend to be outraged over us judging her for being a religious zealot

I don't understand why the best way to go about correcting an oppressive patriarchy is forcing another oppressive patriarchy on her.
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Funbazooka
08/20/18 6:37:23 PM
#200:


Lmao
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LordChad
08/20/18 9:10:55 PM
#201:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...


How fucking dense do you have to get to not understand such a basic concept?


why are you talking yourself?
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