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Funbazooka
08/18/18 4:24:05 PM
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Bill Maher BLASTS social media bans: Alex Jones gets to speak
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/technology/402450-bill-maher-on-social-media-bans-alex-jones-gets-to-speak

HBO talk-show host Bill Maher spoke out in defense of controversial right-wing host Alex Jones after Jones was suspended from several social media platforms, saying that everyone has a right to free speech.

Maher, noting that Jones has "told crazy lies" about him, said on his HBO show Friday that "if youre a liberal, youre supposed to be for free speech."

Thats free speech for the speech you hate. Thats what free speech means. Were losing the thread of the concepts that are important to this country, he continued.

If you care about the real American shit or you dont. And if you do, it goes for every side. I dont like Alex Jones, but Alex Jones gets to speak. Everybody gets to speak," Maher said.


Charlie Sykes, a contributing editor for The Weekly Standard, pushed back on Mahers comments, saying that Jones doesnt necessarily get to speak on Facebook or Twitter, to which the host agreed.

If he engages in vile slander and fabrication about children who are murdered at Sandy Hook and he harasses the parents of children who were murdered at Sandy Hook Facebook, Twitter dont have an obligation to provide him a platform because theyre private companies, Sykes said.

Jones has been pulled or banned from several platforms, including Facebook, YouTube and Spotify. Twitter also placed restrictions on the accounts for Jones and his site Infowars, a move Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey told The Hill is meant to encourage users to behave better on the site.
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:26:48 PM
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The man who's railed against press freedom is going on about censorship lol
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 4:31:13 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
The man who's railed against press freedom is going on about censorship lol

No, he's railed against fake news being the enemy of the people.
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:31:51 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
"if youre a liberal, youre supposed to be for free speech."

Poor Maher still thinks liberals care about liberty.
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:33:28 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
No, he's railed against

Nah, he's railed against actual journalists

The man's not a fan of the first amendment so seeing him bitch about censorship is pretty funny
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:34:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
No, he's railed against

Nah, he's railed against actual journalists

The man's not a fan of the first amendment so seeing him bitch about censorship is pretty funny

How many times has Trump censored the media
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:35:11 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
How many times has Trump censored the media

He's openly expressed a desire to do so on many occasions lol

I know you're a big fan of his, Mal. But let's be realistic here lol
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YellowSUV
08/18/18 4:35:16 PM
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Conservatives can start their own websight for their free speeches. Sorry that the invisible hand of the free market is stopping conservatives, but this is America, not Commie land! They can even get Donald Trump to invest it in since he is so great with money!
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 4:35:50 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Nah, he's railed against actual journalists

lol so?
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SuperMedz3
08/18/18 4:36:33 PM
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:36:35 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
lol so?

It's funny that the guy who expressed desire to censor the press is complaining about censorship
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:37:40 PM
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Why is this okay?

Oh boy a page with a 1.1 out of 5 rating with like 70 followers

brilliant lol
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 4:37:56 PM
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CNN Just Sued The Government To Get The Names And Addresses Of Manafort Jurors
http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/cnn-just-sued-government-get-names-addresses-manafort-jurors/

In a motion filed in federal court on Thursday, CNN and several other media outlets requested that the court release the names and home addresses of all jurors in the Paul Manafort fraud case. Jurors haven not yet rendered a verdict on any of the 18 charges against Manafort, who briefly served as President Donald Trumps campaign manager in 2016.

The motion filed on behalf of CNN, Washington Post, BuzzFeed, POLITICO, New York Times, NBC Universal, and the Associated Press asks the court to provide to the media organizations the full names and home addresses of the men and women who were summoned and selected by the federal government to serve as jurors in Manaforts fraud case.

The media request for the names and home addresses of jurors comes a day after the jury began deliberating about the verdicts on 18 fraud and conspiracy counts against Manafort. The charges, which are unrelated to Manaforts work for the Trump campaign in 2016, were brought by the federal Office of Special Counsel, which is headed by former FBI director Robert Mueller. Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to investigate allegations that the Trump campaign committed treason by illegally conspiring with Russian government officials to steal the presidential election from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Prosecutors allege that Manafort illegally hid assets in undisclosed offshore accounts from the Internal Revenue Service in an attempt to evade required tax payments. Prosecutors also allege that Manafort committed bank fraud by falsifying financial documents in the process of obtaining loans.

Early Thursday evening, members of the jury asked the judge a series of questions about the case and the legal threshold for proving guilt, including a definition of what reasonable doubt meant. Many outside legal experts interpreted the question as being good news for Manaforts defense team and bad news for the prosecution.

Publicly outing the names and home addresses of jurors is considered ethically questionable, as outlined in this guidance sheet on the topic from the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press:

When jurors are not willing to talk, however, some question whether it is appropriate for journalists to name jurors.

Because jurors do not volunteer for their roles, many journalists question whether they should be thrust into the limelight. According to Tompkins, both before and after a verdict is rendered, most newsrooms air on the side of caution when making these decisions.

Generally, there is a policy against publishing juror names, Tompkins said. Among journalists, there genuinely is the feeling that there is no good, compelling reason to identify these people.


This isnt the first time CNN has tried to doxx private individuals whose political views or statements offend the network. Last July, the news network threatened to identify a Reddit user who created a GIF of Trump wrestling another man with CNNs logo superimposed on his face. CNN wrote at the time that it would reveal the individuals identity publicly if he continued to mock the network.

In February, CNN showed up on the front lawn at the home of an elderly woman who reportedly unknowingly shared pro-Trump memes on Facebook that were created by a Russian bot factory. A reporter aggressively harangued the befuddled woman, demanding to know why she colluded with Russians to hurt Hillary Clintons chances of becoming president.

The federal judge presiding over Manaforts case scheduled a hearing on CNNs doxxing motion for 2:00 p.m. Eastern time on Friday.
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:38:20 PM
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He's openly expressed a desire to do so on many occasions lol

So he censored the media 0 times.
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:38:43 PM
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Iunno what that has to do with anything lol
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:39:11 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Iunno what that has to do with anything lol

So he's not a hypocrite here.
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:39:26 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
So he censored the media 0 times.

Where did I say he did Mal

He's not a king. Though I know you'd probably just love if he was
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YellowSUV
08/18/18 4:39:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Iunno what that has to do with anything lol


Trying to change the topic is a time honored tradition when you have no actual arguments to make.
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:40:19 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
So he censored the media 0 times.

Where did I say he did Mal

He's not a king. Though I know you'd probably just love if he was

Why is seeing Trump bitch about censorship funny when he's never censored anyone
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:41:03 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Why is seeing Trump bitch about censorship funny when he's never censored anyone

Because he's expressed a desire to do so.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to wrap your head around
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 4:41:15 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
lol so?

It's funny that the guy who expressed desire to censor the press is complaining about censorship

Criticism of the press =/= intent to censor
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/18/18 4:41:50 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Doom_Art posted...
The man who's railed against press freedom is going on about censorship lol

No, he's railed against fake news being the enemy of the people.


So he believes Alex Jones is an enemy of the people right?
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SuperMedz3
08/18/18 4:41:53 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
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Why is this okay?

Oh boy a page with a 1.1 out of 5 rating with like 70 followers

brilliant lol

Yeah I guess it has to have more followers before it is removed
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:42:39 PM
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SuperMedz3 posted...
Yeah I guess it has to have more followers before it is removed

It's almost like a page with more followers will attract more attention and thus be more likely to be removed
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FrisbeeDude
08/18/18 4:42:59 PM
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But remember, folks, a restuarant refusing to serve Sarah Sanders is the real sign of incivility in political discourse...not, you know, Trump going on crazy rants, and accusing his political rivals as simply peddling fake news. BTW, remember those journalists who were killed and how we all agreed this type of inflammatory rhetoric should be scaled back? funny how we only discuss that when it's a Maxine waters or Andrew Cuomo who are "guilty" of such offenses. wonder why that is
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:43:03 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Because he's expressed a desire to do so.

Talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words. The media actually censors people as they whine about Trump talking about censoring them after they lie.

We know who the real hypocrites are here, don't we?
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 4:44:15 PM
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All I'm saying is for someone who's expressed a desire to censor the press, it's hilarious to see him complaining about censorship

Dunno why you're over-complicating this Mal lol
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:45:47 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
But remember, folks, a restuarant refusing to serve Sarah Sanders is the real sign of incivility in political discourse...not, you know, Trump going on crazy rants, and accusing his political rivals as simply peddling fake news. BTW, remember those journalists who were killed and how we all agreed this type of inflammatory rhetoric should be scaled back? funny how we only discuss that when it's a Maxine waters or Andrew Cuomo who are "guilty" of such offenses. wonder why that is

Has Trump ever called on the media to be publicly harassed?

The media is not some special class. The media is allowed to criticize the president and the president is allowed to criticize the media. Calling out journalists who lie is not off-limits for anyone, even the president. Chill out.
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Sephiroth1288
08/18/18 4:47:17 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
All I'm saying is for someone who's expressed a desire to censor the press, it's hilarious to see him complaining about censorship

I think it's more hypocritical to complain about someone talking about censoring you as you actually censor people than the other way around.

Crazy, right?
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 4:47:26 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
All I'm saying is for someone who's expressed a desire to censor the press,

What Trump quote are you basing this off?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/18/18 4:50:16 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Why is seeing Trump bitch about censorship funny when he's never censored anyone

Because he's expressed a desire to do so.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to wrap your head around


But he hasn't done it. Actions speak louder than desires. Mal is right. We can't criticize trump for being pro-censorship just because he desires censorship if he hasn't actually censored anyone. This is why Mal also defends pedophiles who don't act on their desires. They haven't actually abused children, so they shouldn't be judged on their desires. I disagree personally because those desires are not healthy or acceptable, but Mal's argument is objectively valid.
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 5:00:34 PM
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Anyway... any left-wingers concerned that Trump might try to do something about all this corporate censorship?
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Dash_Harber
08/18/18 5:05:04 PM
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"We won't let this happen"


This is either a flaccid threat or a huge red flag for tyranny. Either way, shit statement by a president.
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 5:07:10 PM
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So objecting to corporate censorship is tyrannical now
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Sayoria
08/18/18 5:08:57 PM
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Sorry. I don't want Nazis and swastikas all over my social media feeds.
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Dash_Harber
08/18/18 5:08:59 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
So objecting to corporate censorship is tyrannical now


Blocking their right to choose what they do and don't publish? Hell yes it is.
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Axiom
08/18/18 5:15:04 PM
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Demands players be suspended for practicing free speech. Complains when private organizations ban nazis and nutjobs. Lol
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MC_BatCommander
08/18/18 5:17:03 PM
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Idk why people keep crying free speech, he was banned for violating terms of use multiple times
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cjsdowg
08/18/18 5:18:53 PM
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But he wants football players fired and deported for not standing for a song.
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 5:20:42 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Funbazooka posted...
So objecting to corporate censorship is tyrannical now


Blocking their right to choose what they do and don't publish? Hell yes it is.

Social media platforms aren't publishers
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Dash_Harber
08/18/18 5:22:47 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Funbazooka posted...
So objecting to corporate censorship is tyrannical now


Blocking their right to choose what they do and don't publish? Hell yes it is.

Social media platforms aren't publishers

Yes, they absolutely are.

What they aren't, is public services. They have the right to not publish anything they don't want to.
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 5:23:01 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Idk why people keep crying free speech, he was banned for violating terms of use multiple times

Pfft don't bring logic into this
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CW_McGraw
08/18/18 5:37:29 PM
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I don't know how the party which runs every branch of government nationally and the overwhelming majority of state governments can unironically indulge in such shameless pity parties and victim culture.
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08/18/18 5:43:55 PM
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I don't know how the party which runs every branch of government nationally and the overwhelming majority of state governments can unironically indulge in such shameless pity parties and victim culture.

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Funbazooka
08/18/18 5:45:31 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Funbazooka posted...
So objecting to corporate censorship is tyrannical now


Blocking their right to choose what they do and don't publish? Hell yes it is.

Social media platforms aren't publishers

Yes, they absolutely are.

What they aren't, is public services. They have the right to not publish anything they don't want to.

Well they aren't public utilities, but yes they're open to the public. That's part of the point. It's how they got popular. And no, they are not publishers. No one ever called them 'publishers' before this.
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Doom_Art
08/18/18 5:47:14 PM
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Not sure why you think these companies should be forced to publish content they don't want to
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sktgamer_13dude
08/18/18 5:51:34 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Not sure why you think these companies should be forced to publish content they don't want to

Twitter must be forced to protect hate speech but bakers cant be forced to bake a cake for gays.

#GOPLogic
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08/18/18 5:52:41 PM
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Funbazooka
08/18/18 6:02:41 PM
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If they were publishers they could be held liable for what's uploaded to their platforms. But they aren't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act
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