Current Events > Putin ally tweeted Brennans security revocation 2 days prior to White House memo

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King_Hellebuyck
08/17/18 5:10:53 PM
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It appears that weeks before the American people knew that Donald Trump would be revoking former CIA Director John Brennans security clearance, and days before the White House memo declaring it, Russia knew.

Specifically, a Russian billionaire with known connections to Vladimir Putin tweeted out a list of names and declared their security clearance void. John Brennan was on that list. Two days later, Trump announced he was revoking Brennans security clearance. Three weeks later, the American public was informed.

Artem Klyushin, a Russian billionaire with a reported close friendship to Vladimir Putin, is also quite proud of his connections to Donald Trump, judging from his social media. Below you can see a tweet from 2013, in which he boasted of business dealings with Trump.

This would be the same Miss Universe Pageant visit Trump looked forward to on Twitter, wondering if hed get to meet Vladimir Putin during the festivities. There are allegations that connections during that trip would lead to Russias involvement in the Trump path to the presidency, as NPR covered last year.

Now, a tweet from this same purported connection between the two has gone somewhat viral, as people realize the timeline. According to Business Insider, the revocation of John Brennans security clearance that America learned about on August 15 was announced by Donald Trump in a White House memo dated July 26 three weeks before it became public.

However, it was announced two days before that, on July 24th, on Twitter by none other than the aforementioned Russian operative, Artem Klyushin, via his verified account.

The Bing auto-translation of the tweet is as follows:

FORMER CIA DIRECTORS JOHN BRENNAN AND MICHAEL HAYDEN, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR JAMES [COMEY] AND HIS DEPUTY ANDREW MCCABE, FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE JAMES CLAPPER, EX-ADVISER ON HOMELAND SUSAN RICE ARE FORGIVEN FOR ACCESS TO CLASSIFIED MATERIALS. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD!


https://hillreporter.com/putin-ally-tweeted-brennans-security-revocation-two-days-before-the-white-house-knew-about-it-5882/amp

Witch hunt! Sad!
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Snack
08/17/18 5:11:26 PM
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Wow
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frozenshock
08/17/18 5:17:01 PM
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So, Russia has advance knowledge of what Trump does.

I mean, even if you like Trump you should at least be... idk, concerned about this?

Like, just concerned?
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Bluebomber182
08/17/18 5:18:07 PM
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nothing suspicious here nope nothing at all!
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Funbazooka
08/17/18 5:19:05 PM
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What's wrong with being friends with Russians
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UnholyMudcrab
08/17/18 5:30:37 PM
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IIRC, the White House had shared a list of people whose clearances were potentially getting revoked several days ago. That's where the Russians got the information
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King_Hellebuyck
08/17/18 5:38:48 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
IIRC, the White House had shared a list of people whose clearances were potentially getting revoked several days ago. That's where the Russians got the information

This tweet came before that
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Hexenherz
08/17/18 5:41:49 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
IIRC, the White House had shared a list of people whose clearances were potentially getting revoked several days ago. That's where the Russians got the information

I think it was even weeks ago. They've been talking about it for a while.
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NeverOffended
08/17/18 5:45:14 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
IIRC, the White House had shared a list of people whose clearances were potentially getting revoked several days ago. That's where the Russians got the information

I think it was even weeks ago. They've been talking about it for a while.


this
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Tyranthraxus
08/17/18 5:46:41 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
IIRC, the White House had shared a list of people whose clearances were potentially getting revoked several days ago. That's where the Russians got the information

I think it was even weeks ago. They've been talking about it for a while.

This was probably something they discussed in person during their meeting.
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Hexenherz
08/17/18 5:47:32 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/631619750/trump-wants-to-revoke-security-clearances-of-ex-officials-whove-criticized-him

See, NPR - July 23rd. Same well-publicized list of people that the Russian used in his tweet. Published a full day before the Russian tweet (still looking for it). But it's entirely possible that they just got some shit wrong in the Russian media... they tend to embellish stories over there, especially when it pertains to foreign powers.
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butthole666
08/17/18 5:48:13 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
IIRC, the White House had shared a list of people whose clearances were potentially getting revoked several days ago. That's where the Russians got the information

Did you even fucking read the OP
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NeverOffended
08/17/18 5:49:05 PM
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butthole666 posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
IIRC, the White House had shared a list of people whose clearances were potentially getting revoked several days ago. That's where the Russians got the information

Did you even fucking read the OP


read the post above you and take a chill pill my man
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King_Hellebuyck
08/17/18 5:51:29 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/631619750/trump-wants-to-revoke-security-clearances-of-ex-officials-whove-criticized-him

See, NPR - July 23rd. Same well-publicized list of people that the Russian used in his tweet. Published a full day before the Russian tweet (still looking for it). But it's entirely possible that they just got some shit wrong in the Russian media... they tend to embellish stories over there, especially when it pertains to foreign powers.

The difference between what this says and what the tweet says is fairly important though. Trump wants to do this vs this is done.
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Hexenherz
08/17/18 5:56:53 PM
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Also going through his twitter messages he accused former Ambassador to Russia McPhaul of various crimes based on conspiracy theories and shit... Guy's a typical Russian politician, says whatever the hell he wants (as long as it's not directed towards his own president) because he can get away with pot stirring for the sake of it. He reposts information New York Post and RT... And he actively posts dumb shit about American politicians in general.

Here, found it:

- , - , - , - . Welcome to the real world!

The Bing translation is about 95% accurate, though the post says that they "say farewell" to their clearances, not that they're "forgiven" for their clearances.

But based on the fact that he doesn't apparently patronize the most reputable news sources, it's pretty easy to see where he drew the conclusion that they had, at that time, been relieved of their clearances instead of just a discussion about it happening.

Long story short, there's... pretty much nothing to that article.
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Hexenherz
08/17/18 5:58:02 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Hexenherz posted...
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/631619750/trump-wants-to-revoke-security-clearances-of-ex-officials-whove-criticized-him

See, NPR - July 23rd. Same well-publicized list of people that the Russian used in his tweet. Published a full day before the Russian tweet (still looking for it). But it's entirely possible that they just got some shit wrong in the Russian media... they tend to embellish stories over there, especially when it pertains to foreign powers.

The difference between what this says and what the tweet says is fairly important though. Trump wants to do this vs this is done.


You're looking at it from the perspective on direct sources of information in the native language, and not third party sources after it was translated. And again, the media that this guy uses isn't the most reputable out there. And Russian media itself isn't known for being trustworthy.
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King_Hellebuyck
08/17/18 6:02:23 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Hexenherz posted...
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/631619750/trump-wants-to-revoke-security-clearances-of-ex-officials-whove-criticized-him

See, NPR - July 23rd. Same well-publicized list of people that the Russian used in his tweet. Published a full day before the Russian tweet (still looking for it). But it's entirely possible that they just got some shit wrong in the Russian media... they tend to embellish stories over there, especially when it pertains to foreign powers.

The difference between what this says and what the tweet says is fairly important though. Trump wants to do this vs this is done.


You're looking at it from the perspective on direct sources of information in the native language, and not third party sources after it was translated. And again, the media that this guy uses isn't the most reputable out there. And Russian media itself isn't known for being trustworthy.

Seems more like youre trying to handwave this away, what sources said that they had already lost their clearance?
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Hexenherz
08/17/18 6:16:45 PM
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Well first of all, the theory that this guy had inside information is wrong for the simple fact that only Brennan's clearance was revoked, despite all the other names on the list.

Shit, I just went to RT in Russian and look at how they're reporting it in the headlines:

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It explicitly mentions there "Trump's decision to revoke clearances from former special services directors"
Directors.
Plural. Even though the article itself specifically only mentions Brennan. In Russian media it's falsely reporting the events.

From Gazeta:

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"Trump will end the clearances of 9 security service leaders"

From RIA Novosti:
"Trump is determined to relieve those who accuse him of having ties with Russia of their clearances"

From Rossiyskaya Gazeta:
"Trump will revoke the clearances of former heads of intelligence and the FBI" (though the article itself says that they *ONLY* face this possibility).

Russian media sensationalizes shit, especially when it comes to foreign events, especially when they can spin it a little bit in Russia's favor.

It's not hard to understand why he said what he did here. Hell, I'm sure there were people in America accusing Trump of the same thing when the news first came out a month ago.
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ledbowman
08/17/18 6:17:41 PM
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Shocker
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