Current Events > Millennial Couple Bikes Through ISIS Territory to Prove 'Humans Are Kind'

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How do you go through a good quarter of your life without learning that people can genuinely believe in killing for the sake of something seemingly meaningless to us? People can be led to believe anything enough to kill for. It's not a matter of kindness or evil. Our minds can be really weak and easily influenced. If they wanted to send a life message though, they got what they wanted
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It is not ISIS fault for proving them wrong
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legendarylemur posted...

If they wanted to send a life message though, they got what they wanted

Yup, don't be naive & foolish like that couple.
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I think people are missing the point.

Their "mission" was based on their belief that evil was some sort of man made label.

But you can easily bring up many, many people under different beliefs who came up poor and were great loving people and those who were privileged who were also sociopaths/psychopaths.

The fact it happened somewhere close to the middle east is irrelevant.

Them getting killed by extremists and evil individuals is where the irony lies.
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they're were
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chrono625 posted...

I think people are missing the point.

Their "mission" was based on their belief that evil was some sort of man made label.

But you can easily bring up many, many people under different beliefs who came up poor and were great loving people and those who were privileged who were also sociopaths/psychopaths.

The fact it happened somewhere close to the middle east is irrelevant.

Them getting killed by extremists and evil individuals is where the irony lies.

I think most people by even early 20's learn that evil is in the eyes of the beholder at best. But these couples specifically went to a region where people are regularly killed fruitlessly to show that they're not like what the media portrayed them to be. Which they were pretty obviously wrong. The response of "well yeah, duh" is not worth 4 lives
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Most evil is committed because the one doing it feels they are doing something good. They feel so righteous that it allows them to commit heinous acts. That doesn't mean evil is subjective or just a social construct as that couple would like to believe. It's just how evil likes to operate. It's the devil in the brain.
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legendarylemur posted...

chrono625 posted...

I think people are missing the point.

Their "mission" was based on their belief that evil was some sort of man made label.

But you can easily bring up many, many people under different beliefs who came up poor and were great loving people and those who were privileged who were also sociopaths/psychopaths.

The fact it happened somewhere close to the middle east is irrelevant.

Them getting killed by extremists and evil individuals is where the irony lies.

I think most people by even early 20's learn that evil is in the eyes of the beholder at best. But these couples specifically went to a region where people are regularly killed fruitlessly to show that they're not like what the media portrayed them to be. Which they were pretty obviously wrong. The response of "well yeah, duh" is not worth 4 lives

No they did not.
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Bio1590 posted...

No they did not.

Nobody expected ISIS members to be that far out east.

That shows we have a lot more surveillance that needs to happen.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Bio1590 posted...

No they did not.

Nobody expected ISIS members to be that far out east.

That shows we have a lot more surveillance that needs to happen.

They're pretty sure it's just some small political party that they've had issues with in the past that's claimed allegiance to ISIS.

Also I think there were 7 people bicycling and only 4 were killed? Odd they wouldn't get everyone.
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iPhone_7 posted...

Now lets see another liberal sjw do this in those no-go zones in Europe they love to deny.

You do it please and report back with your findings thanks.
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I thought Trump and his supporters said he eliminated ISIS for good?
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I wonder if their liberal views on guns changed when they realized that they needed one in their last moments.
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Funbazooka posted...

Most evil is committed because the one doing it feels they are doing something good.

That doesn't mean evil is subjective or just a social construct as that couple would like to believe.

These two statements are contradictory.
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Their description sounds like some kind of conservative stereotype of millennial rather than the description of actual people

I get that its dumb to go biking in tajikistan but the article reads like they're just trying to make fun of them. Where's the outrage about innocent americans being killed?
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Roshon posted...

I thought Trump and his supporters said he eliminated ISIS for good?

You can never eradicate terrorism for good.

It requires eternal vigilance to be ready at the drop of a hat to send forces to clamp down on terrorists.
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@DragonGirlYuki posted...

I wonder if their liberal views on guns changed when they realized that they needed one in their last moments.

I'd think the couple would rather die then needing a gun to survive.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Roshon posted...

I thought Trump and his supporters said he eliminated ISIS for good?

You can never eradicate terrorism for good.

It requires eternal vigilance to be ready at the drop of a hat to send forces to clamp down on terrorists.

Well thats what Trump and his supporters were going on about not to long ago...
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

@DragonGirlYuki posted...

I wonder if their liberal views on guns changed when they realized that they needed one in their last moments.

I'd think the couple would rather die then needing a gun to survive.

Are guns vegan? I never could figure that out.

Roshon posted...

Well thats what Trump and his supporters were going on about not to long ago...

Trust me, there will always be a new Terrorist organization at some point in time.

At one point it was the IRA / Real-IRA in Ireland.

Then there's Brazil & Columbia against FARC (19642017).
Even with the formal surrender of arms of FARC, there are still dissidents amongst them who haven't given up.

It's going to happen globally no matter what.

Be it Cartels or ISIS or something else.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Are guns vegan? I never could figure that out.

They're not related in any way.
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I feel bad that they died. But it incredibly stupid to think that people can't be cruel or evil. There's entire history books filled with human caused atrocities.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Only to get brutally murdered by ISIS terrorists

https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1824-millennial-couple-bikes-through-isis-territory-to-prove-humans-are-kind-and-gets-killed/partners/44197

"Evil is a make-believe concept we've invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans."

An idealistic young American couple was killed in an Islamic State-claimed terrorist attack last month while on a cycling trip around the world.

Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan, who were both in their late 20s, last year quit their office jobs in Washington, DC, to embark on the journey. Austin, a vegan who worked for the US Department of Housing and Urban Development, and Geoghegan, a vegetarian who worked in the Georgetown University admissions office, decided that they're were wasting their lives working.

"Ive grown tired of spending the best hours of my day in front of a glowing rectangle, of coloring the best years of my life in swaths of grey and beige, Austin wrote on his blog before he quit. Ive missed too many sunsets while my back was turned. Too many thunderstorms went unwatched, too many gentle breezes unnoticed.

The couple documented their year-long journey on Instagram and on a joint blog. As The New York Times put it, they shared "the openheartedness they wanted to embody and the acts of kindness reciprocated by strangers."

You read the papers and youre led to believe that the world is a big, scary place," Austin wrote.

People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil."

I dont buy it," he continued. "Evil is a make-believe concept weve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own... By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind.

However, Austin and Geoghegan's dream trip came to a tragic and gruesome end when they got to Tajikistan, a country with a known terrorist presence. They were riding their bikes through the country on July 29 when a car rammed them, according to CBS News. Five men got out of the car and stabbed the couple to death along with two other cyclists, one from Switzerland and the other from the Netherlands.

Two days later, ISIS released a video showing the same men sitting in front of the black ISIS flag. They looked at the camera and vowed to kill "disbelievers," according to The New York Times.

Does this count as a Darwin award?

Yeah. I'd say so.
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frozenshock posted...

Where's the outrage about innocent americans being killed?

It's ISIS . . . they're already the worst, burning museums n shit, I'm sure ya'll remember that.

Outrage and political capital are just all the more reason what they did was stupid and frankly, immoral.
Same for people that go to North Korea.

If you get locked up, kidnapped, etc . . . if someone pays your ransom, congrats you just funded terrorism, if we have to send Bill Clinton, we just wasted political capital, we have to send in special forces, you risked the lives of dozens.

Tell you what, I'll respect their wishes and not write my Congressmen to have them avenged. Do you really think they'd want a cruise missile coming down over their deaths?
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frozenshock posted...

Their description sounds like some kind of conservative stereotype of millennial rather than the description of actual people

I get that its dumb to go biking in tajikistan but the article reads like they're just trying to make fun of them. Where's the outrage about innocent americans being killed?

Prior to this there was literally nothing dumb about going biking in Tajikistan holy shit.
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EnragedSlith posted...

I feel the same way about every white college girl at a liberal arts school who spends summers in impoverished parts of the world to take selfies with poor people

Pretty much this

Huge lack of perspective and self awareness from this couple. Sadly they paid for that lesson with their lives.

Bio1590 posted...

Prior to this there was literally nothing dumb about going biking in Tajikistan holy shit.

"If we keep pretending Tajikistan is a regular moderate country, they'll start to believe it."

Real talk, did you even know the country existed before this topic?
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Darwin award contenders for sure.
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mario2000 posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Most evil is committed because the one doing it feels they are doing something good.

That doesn't mean evil is subjective or just a social construct as that couple would like to believe.

These two statements are contradictory.

At first glance, sure. I'm talking about heinous acts, not taste buds. There comes a point where subjectivity ceases to be an apt characterization. At that point it's about delusion, self-delusion. Self-delusion (denial of objective reality) easily leads to evil.

All of these things are real: subjectivity, objectivity, delusion, reality, evil and good
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Bio1590 posted...

Prior to this there was literally nothing dumb about going biking in Tajikistan holy shit.

Another place to not visit ever again!
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I laughed x I don't feel bad for them either

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Prior to this there was literally nothing dumb about going biking in Tajikistan holy shit.

"If we keep pretending Tajikistan is a regular moderate country, they'll start to believe it."

Real talk, did you even know the country existed before this topic?

Of course I fucking did.

It's pretty obvious you didn't though.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Prior to this there was literally nothing dumb about going biking in Tajikistan holy shit.

Another place to not visit ever again!

It's still only Level 2 and this is the first incident of its kind in Tajikistan's history. That's literally the same level as many vacation hotspots in the Caribbean or Central/South America that thousands upon thousands of people go to.
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Bio1590 posted...

It's still only Level 2 and this is the first incident of its kind in Tajikistan's history. That's literally the same level as many vacation hotspots in the Caribbean or Central/South America that thousands upon thousands of people go to.

I'll consider a Level 2 place once I run out of Level 1 places to visit.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Bio1590 posted...

It's still only Level 2 and this is the first incident of its kind in Tajikistan's history. That's literally the same level as many vacation hotspots in the Caribbean or Central/South America that thousands upon thousands of people go to.

I'll consider a Level 2 place once I run out of Level 1 places to visit.

Okay so you can still travel to Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Turkmenistan lol
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I wonder what their thoughts on Stalin and Hitler were.
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One is supposed to kill ISIS without any regard or remorse.

Not try to be buddies and get themselves killed.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

I wonder what their thoughts on Stalin and Hitler were.

Made up fiction I would imagine.
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Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan, who were both in their late 20s, last year quit their office jobs in Washington, DC, to embark on the journey. Austin, a vegan who worked for the US Department of Housing and Urban Development, and Geoghegan, a vegetarian who worked in the Georgetown University admissions office, decided that they're were wasting their lives working.

"Ive grown tired of spending the best hours of my day in front of a glowing rectangle, of coloring the best years of my life in swaths of grey and beige, Austin wrote on his blog before he quit. Ive missed too many sunsets while my back was turned. Too many thunderstorms went unwatched, too many gentle breezes unnoticed.
I dont buy it," he continued. "Evil is a make-believe concept weve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own... By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind.

However, Austin and Geoghegan's dream trip came to a tragic and gruesome end when they got to Tajikistan, a country with a known terrorist presence. They were riding their bikes through the country on July 29 when a car rammed them, according to CBS News. Five men got out of the car and stabbed the couple to death along with two other cyclists, one from Switzerland and the other from the Netherlands.

Yikes. it's like a god went out of their way to prove these naive fools wrong
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mario2000 posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Most evil is committed because the one doing it feels they are doing something good.

That doesn't mean evil is subjective or just a social construct as that couple would like to believe.

These two statements are contradictory.

Only if you already think evil is subjective and the person doing evil has as equally valid opinion as everyone else. As opposed to just being wrong.
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Well that movies winning the academy award in 2020
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Prior to this there was literally nothing dumb about going biking in Tajikistan holy shit.

"If we keep pretending Tajikistan is a regular moderate country, they'll start to believe it."

Real talk, did you even know the country existed before this topic?

Don't assume everyone is as ignorant, sheltered, and utterly unaware of the rest of the world as you are.
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Seems the "proving humans are kind" part of the story might be a bit exaggerated

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/millenial-couple-isis-tajikistan/
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TheOlJollyRoger posted...

Well that movies winning the academy award in 2020

Hah. I don't think Hollywood wants to highlight something like this. The screeching accusations of xenophobia, Islamophobia, and racism would be over-the-top.
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frozenshock posted...

Seems the "proving humans are kind" part of the story might be a bit exaggerated

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/millenial-couple-isis-tajikistan/

What a remarkably shitty thing to do to victims of a horrific crime.
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Funbazooka posted...

TheOlJollyRoger posted...

Well that movies winning the academy award in 2020

Hah. I don't think Hollywood wants to highlight something like this. The screeching accusations of xenophobia, Islamophobia, and racism would be over-the-top.

Na it will be done artistically like that grizzly movie or the into the wild guy.
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I can hear the Eddie vedar music already
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Darmik posted...

frozenshock posted...

Seems the "proving humans are kind" part of the story might be a bit exaggerated

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/millenial-couple-isis-tajikistan/

What a remarkably shitty thing to do to victims of a horrific crime.

Indeed.

But re-reading the article... they're really trying extremely hard to make those two look as much as possible like walking stereotypes of idealistic liberals with their heads in the clouds. Seemed really suspicious. I'm not surprised most of it is made up.
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frozenshock posted...

Seems the "proving humans are kind" part of the story might be a bit exaggerated

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/millenial-couple-isis-tajikistan/

Jesus Christ of course.
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fuck scumbag rightists and their false narratives
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