Current Events > Man beaten to death in act of 'vigilante justice'. Now charged with murder.

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Ammonitida 08/15/18 12:50:57 PM #1:	err... The man who beat him to death is charged with murder. https://www.ajc.com/news/national/father-admits-punching-man-who-tried-get-into-daughter-public-bathroom-stall-police-say/Nq8Z40C7XFHYkhfqE9D6jI/ A Phoenix father is behind bars after he said he punched a man who had tried to get into the bathroom stall his daughter was using. The man eventually died of his injuries and now Melvin Harris III is facing murder charges. <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:906926060] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>err... The man who beat him to death is charged with murder. https://www.ajc.com/news/national/father-admits-punching-man-who-tried-get-into-daughter-public-bathroom-stall-police-say/Nq8Z40C7XFHYkhfqE9D6jI/ <quote>A Phoenix father is behind bars after he said he punched a man who had tried to get into the bathroom stall his daughter was using. The man eventually died of his injuries and now Melvin Harris III is facing murder charges.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 08/15/18 12:52:35 PM #2:	The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:906926168] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/15/18 12:52:40 PM #3:	Police said that Harris told a security guard about the incident, telling him, according to police documents, He needed to take care of the situation, or he (Harris) would do it himself. When the man, later identified by KTVK as Leon Leevon Armstrong, came out of the store, Harris realized it was the same man he had given money to, KNXV reported. Harris went up to the man and punched him in the face. When the man was on the ground, witnesses told police Harris continued to punch and kick him, KTVK reported. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:906926173] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><quote>Police said that Harris told a security guard about the incident, telling him, according to police documents, He needed to take care of the situation, or he (Harris) would do it himself. When the man, later identified by KTVK as Leon Leevon Armstrong, came out of the store, Harris realized it was the same man he had given money to, KNXV reported. Harris went up to the man and punched him in the face. When the man was on the ground, witnesses told police Harris continued to punch and kick him, KTVK reported.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 08/15/18 12:53:23 PM #4:	Master_Bass posted... The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence. Beating a dead horse er...dead man --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:906926229] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote>The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence.</quote> Beating a dead horse er...dead man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 08/15/18 12:54:17 PM #5:	So he repeatedly hit him when he was already on the ground --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:906926272] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>So he repeatedly hit him when he was already on the ground</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StucklnMyPants 08/15/18 12:56:09 PM #6:	Police said that Harris told a security guard about the incident, telling him, according to police documents, He needed to take care of the situation, or he (Harris) would do it himself. When the man, later identified by KTVK as Leon Leevon Armstrong, came out of the store, Harris realized it was the same man he had given money to, KNXV reported. Harris went up to the man and punched him in the face. When the man was on the ground, witnesses told police Harris continued to punch and kick him, KTVK reported. Fair, next. --- Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted [p:906926398] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><quote>Police said that Harris told a security guard about the incident, telling him, according to police documents, He needed to take care of the situation, or he (Harris) would do it himself. When the man, later identified by KTVK as Leon Leevon Armstrong, came out of the store, Harris realized it was the same man he had given money to, KNXV reported. Harris went up to the man and punched him in the face. When the man was on the ground, witnesses told police Harris continued to punch and kick him, KTVK reported.</quote> Fair, next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snack 08/15/18 12:56:45 PM #7:	glitteringfairy posted... So he repeatedly hit him when he was already on the ground Yea fair next then <cite>Snack posted [p:906926445] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>So he repeatedly hit him when he was already on the ground</quote> Yea fair next then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/15/18 12:59:29 PM #8:	First punch = Maybe ok After that = Lock him up, boys. Some people seem to think you can keep beating on someone like in the movies and they won't die because it's just punches and kicks. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:906926603] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>First punch = Maybe ok After that = Lock him up, boys. Some people seem to think you can keep beating on someone like in the movies and they won't die because it's just punches and kicks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 08/15/18 1:00:07 PM #9:	People here wouldn't care if their daughters got raped by some weirdo. They'd try to talk nice to him and get him rehabilitated. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:906926643] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>People here wouldn't care if their daughters got raped by some weirdo. They'd try to talk nice to him and get him rehabilitated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grischnak 08/15/18 1:01:26 PM #10:	Snack posted... glitteringfairy posted... So he repeatedly hit him when he was already on the ground Yea fair next then In most situations I wouldn't "fair next" stomping someone when they were on the ground but someone that was trying to rape your daughter? Seems pretty fair to me. <cite>Grischnak posted [p:906926712] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Snack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>So he repeatedly hit him when he was already on the ground</quote> Yea fair next then</quote> In most situations I wouldn't "fair next" stomping someone when they were on the ground but someone that was trying to rape your daughter? Seems pretty fair to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Im_JustMe0129 08/15/18 1:04:17 PM #11:	I know what you were getting at TC but the title is funny. Charging a dead man with murder lol On topic: maybe it can be reduced to manslaughter. Did he intend to actually kill him or just rough him up and didn't expect him to die? <cite>Im_JustMe0129 posted [p:906926864] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>I know what you were getting at TC but the title is funny. Charging a dead man with murder lol On topic: maybe it can be reduced to manslaughter. Did he intend to actually kill him or just rough him up and didn't expect him to die?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/15/18 1:04:22 PM #12:	KillerKhan420 posted... People here wouldn't care if their daughters got raped by some weirdo. They'd try to talk nice to him and get him rehabilitated. If he really cared he wouldn't have done something that would put him behind bars and make him lose his daughter. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:906926871] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>KillerKhan420 posted...</cite> <quote>People here wouldn't care if their daughters got raped by some weirdo. They'd try to talk nice to him and get him rehabilitated.</quote> If he really cared he wouldn't have done something that would put him behind bars and make him lose his daughter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/15/18 1:05:39 PM #13:	So he didn't actually catch him in the act, he went and beat him to death after the fact just because his daughter said so. How did he know it was the same guy? This sounds like murder to me, and he was even nice enough to make sure the security guard knew it was premeditated --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:906926941] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>So he didn't actually catch him in the act, he went and beat him to death after the fact just because his daughter said so. How did he know it was the same guy? This sounds like murder to me, and he was even nice enough to make sure the security guard knew it was premeditated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 08/15/18 1:08:13 PM #14:	Master_Bass posted... The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence. :) <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:906927098] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote>The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence.</quote> :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/15/18 1:08:32 PM #15:	He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? And the guy who got his ass beat died? Let him go. He's a hero. That guy who's ass he kicked deserved it and the world is probably a better place without him. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:906927120] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? And the guy who got his ass beat died? Let him go. He's a hero. That guy who's ass he kicked deserved it and the world is probably a better place without him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 08/15/18 1:10:31 PM #16:	KillerKhan420 posted... People here wouldn't care if their daughters got raped by some weirdo. They'd try to talk nice to him and get him rehabilitated. This is a terrible post. --- https://imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://imgur.com/LkrRVe2 https://imgur.com/Dp03g3y I'm A Dragon <cite>Kitt posted [p:906927228] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>KillerKhan420 posted...</cite> <quote>People here wouldn't care if their daughters got raped by some weirdo. They'd try to talk nice to him and get him rehabilitated.</quote> This is a terrible post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/15/18 1:11:21 PM #17:	I feel bad for his daughter. Not only is she losing a parent but she's also going to be stuck for the rest of her life feeling like she caused a murder. If that's what's considered "protecting" your child... --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:906927274] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>I feel bad for his daughter. Not only is she losing a parent but she's also going to be stuck for the rest of her life feeling like she caused a murder. If that's what's considered "protecting" your child...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/15/18 1:14:03 PM #18:	Going as far as killing him was a bad decision on his part. He had already ensured his daughter's safety. Because he went too far, everyone loses. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:906927421] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>Going as far as killing him was a bad decision on his part. He had already ensured his daughter's safety. Because he went too far, everyone loses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
newtonwuzvirgin 08/15/18 1:16:04 PM #19:	The situation was over, his daughter was safe, it was now the job of law enforcement. Its understandable but he went too far. --- I value knowledge over momentary physical manifestations of euphoria. <cite>newtonwuzvirgin posted [p:906927526] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>The situation was over, his daughter was safe, it was now the job of law enforcement. Its understandable but he went too far.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/15/18 1:19:29 PM #20:	Esrac posted... He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? No. read the topic. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:906927724] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? </quote> No. read the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 08/15/18 1:23:29 PM #22:	Based on time stamps post 21 was self deleted. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:906927953] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>Based on time stamps post 21 was self deleted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grischnak 08/15/18 1:30:22 PM #23:	Dragonblade01 posted... Going as far as killing him was a bad decision on his part. He had already ensured his daughter's safety. Because he went too far, everyone loses. Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. And to be fair, we don't really know the context of what happened. It's possible the dead guy didn't know someone was in the stall. The girl could have overreacted. The guy looked pretty disgusting and I imagine most teenage girls would freak out at the mere sight of him(here's a picture of him for reference): Then again, he went into the womens bathroom so it's kind of hard to play the misunderstanding card. It's possible but I don't know how likely it is. <cite>Grischnak posted [p:906928337] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Going as far as killing him was a bad decision on his part. He had already ensured his daughter's safety. Because he went too far, everyone loses.</quote> Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. And to be fair, we don't really know the context of what happened. It's possible the dead guy didn't know someone was in the stall. The girl could have overreacted. The guy looked pretty disgusting and I imagine most teenage girls would freak out at the mere sight of him(here's a picture of him for reference): Then again, he went into the womens bathroom so it's kind of hard to play the misunderstanding card. It's possible but I don't know how likely it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/15/18 1:33:52 PM #24:	Grischnak posted... Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull The eggshell rule (or thin skull rule) is a well-established legal doctrine in common law, used in some tort law systems,[1] with a similar doctrine applicable to criminal law. The rule states that, in a tort case, the unexpected frailty of the injured person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906928514] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote>Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. </quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull <quote>The eggshell rule (or thin skull rule) is a well-established legal doctrine in common law, used in some tort law systems,[1] with a similar doctrine applicable to criminal law. The rule states that, in a tort case, the unexpected frailty of the injured person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/15/18 1:34:35 PM #25:	Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? No. read the topic. I did. The first post says: A Phoenix father is behind bars after he said he punched a man who had tried to get into the bathroom stall his daughter was using. The article even says he beat him up because the girls told him that he tried to get into her stall. That sure sounds like he beat the guy's ass because he tried to get into her bathroom stall. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:906928568] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? </quote> No. read the topic.</quote> I did. The first post says: A Phoenix father is behind bars after he said he punched a man who had tried to get into the bathroom stall his daughter was using. The article even says he beat him up because the girls told him that he tried to get into her stall. That sure sounds like he beat the guy's ass because he tried to get into her bathroom stall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/15/18 1:37:41 PM #26:	It wasn't going on at that time. Hence, murder. And no, not justified. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:906928742] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't going on at that time. Hence, murder. And no, not justified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/15/18 1:39:21 PM #27:	Esrac posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? No. read the topic. I did. The first post says: A Phoenix father is behind bars after he said he punched a man who had tried to get into the bathroom stall his daughter was using. The article even says he beat him up because the girls told him that he tried to get into her stall. That sure sounds like he beat the guy's ass because he tried to get into her bathroom stall. Try reading past the first sentence. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906928841] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? </quote> No. read the topic.</quote> I did. The first post says: A Phoenix father is behind bars after he said he punched a man who had tried to get into the bathroom stall his daughter was using. The article even says he beat him up because the girls told him that he tried to get into her stall. That sure sounds like he beat the guy's ass because he tried to get into her bathroom stall.</quote> Try reading past the first sentence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 08/15/18 1:40:16 PM #28:	If the father did it because of the clear and present danger, then there is room for justification. But it appears as though this attack was not only in retribution, but he didnt cease his attacks when the man was on the ground. I think hes going to be in a tough spot when this goes to trial. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:906928895] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>If the father did it because of the clear and present danger, then there is room for justification. But it appears as though this attack was not only in retribution, but he didnt cease his attacks when the man was on the ground. I think hes going to be in a tough spot when this goes to trial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/15/18 1:40:34 PM #29:	Sir Will posted... It wasn't going on at that time. Hence, murder. And no, not justified. It absolutely was justified. No jury is going to convict. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906928914] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't going on at that time. Hence, murder. And no, not justified.</quote> It absolutely was justified. No jury is going to convict.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir Will 08/15/18 1:44:15 PM #31:	darkjedilink posted... It absolutely was justified. No. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:906929103] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>It absolutely was justified.</quote> No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grischnak 08/15/18 1:45:37 PM #32:	A_Good_Boy posted... Grischnak posted... Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull The eggshell rule (or thin skull rule) is a well-established legal doctrine in common law, used in some tort law systems,[1] with a similar doctrine applicable to criminal law. The rule states that, in a tort case, the unexpected frailty of the injured person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them. I don't really give a shit about the legalities bud. I was talking to the other guy and asking him a question about intent. <cite>Grischnak posted [p:906929190] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote>Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. </quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull <quote>The eggshell rule (or thin skull rule) is a well-established legal doctrine in common law, used in some tort law systems,[1] with a similar doctrine applicable to criminal law. The rule states that, in a tort case, the unexpected frailty of the injured person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them.</quote></quote> I don't really give a shit about the legalities bud. I was talking to the other guy and asking him a question about intent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/15/18 1:46:18 PM #33:	Sir Will posted... It wasn't going on at that time. Hence, murder. And no, not justified. Oh, I see. You object to me saying they should let him go because he's a hero. See, the part of my post your selectively quoted suggested I was mistaken about the reason he beat his ass. I stand by my statement. He might not have been trying to get into the stall at that very moment, but the father did the right thing. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:906929235] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't going on at that time. Hence, murder. And no, not justified.</quote> Oh, I see. You object to me saying they should let him go because he's a hero. See, the part of my post your selectively quoted suggested I was mistaken about the reason he beat his ass. I stand by my statement. He might not have been trying to get into the stall at that very moment, but the father did the right thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/15/18 1:50:11 PM #34:	Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:906929458] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/15/18 1:54:25 PM #35:	Grischnak posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Going as far as killing him was a bad decision on his part. He had already ensured his daughter's safety. Because he went too far, everyone loses. Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. And to be fair, we don't really know the context of what happened. It's possible the dead guy didn't know someone was in the stall. The girl could have overreacted. The guy looked pretty disgusting and I imagine most teenage girls would freak out at the mere sight of him(here's a picture of him for reference): Then again, he went into the womens bathroom so it's kind of hard to play the misunderstanding card. It's possible but I don't know how likely it is. He may not have intended to kill him. But he did kill him. Which means he clearly did more than was necessary and should therefore be tried accordingly. Protecting his daughter was heroic. Going beyond that was not. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:906929671] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Grischnak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Going as far as killing him was a bad decision on his part. He had already ensured his daughter's safety. Because he went too far, everyone loses.</quote> Is there any indication that he was trying to kill him? As I understood it, he just beat the guy up and the guy died injuries from the later on. That can happen even if you're not trying to murder someone. And to be fair, we don't really know the context of what happened. It's possible the dead guy didn't know someone was in the stall. The girl could have overreacted. The guy looked pretty disgusting and I imagine most teenage girls would freak out at the mere sight of him(here's a picture of him for reference): Then again, he went into the womens bathroom so it's kind of hard to play the misunderstanding card. It's possible but I don't know how likely it is.</quote> He may not have intended to kill him. But he did kill him. Which means he clearly did more than was necessary and should therefore be tried accordingly. Protecting his daughter was heroic. Going beyond that was not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/15/18 1:54:28 PM #36:	Master_Bass posted... The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:906929675] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote>The dead man is getting charged with murder? I hope he gets the death sentence.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/15/18 1:56:39 PM #37:	Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:906929805] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/15/18 2:03:41 PM #38:	Esrac posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:906930229] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.</quote> You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/15/18 2:06:54 PM #39:	Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye. I think retribution after the fact is sometimes acceptable. So, I guess not. Whether this is murder, some other homicide, or justified we will let the court decide. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:906930425] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.</quote> You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye.</quote> I think retribution after the fact is sometimes acceptable. So, I guess not. Whether this is murder, some other homicide, or justified we will let the court decide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/15/18 2:13:34 PM #40:	The fact that he left the scene afterwards will not bode well for him --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:906930779] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote>The fact that he left the scene afterwards will not bode well for him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/15/18 2:25:24 PM #41:	eston posted... The fact that he left the scene afterwards will not bode well for him He not only left the scene, but he even had already informed a security guard. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906931422] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that he left the scene afterwards will not bode well for him</quote> He not only left the scene, but he even had already informed a security guard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/15/18 2:28:23 PM #42:	Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye. So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906931593] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.</quote> You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye.</quote> So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/15/18 2:32:21 PM #43:	darkjedilink posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye. So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat? The threat was already removed before he caused significant enough injury to kill. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:906931811] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.</quote> You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye.</quote> So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat?</quote> The threat was already removed before he caused significant enough injury to kill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/15/18 2:43:02 PM #44:	Dragonblade01 posted... darkjedilink posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye. So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat? The threat was already removed before he caused significant enough injury to kill. As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906932425] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.</quote> You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye.</quote> So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat?</quote> The threat was already removed before he caused significant enough injury to kill.</quote> As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/15/18 2:45:45 PM #45:	darkjedilink posted... Dragonblade01 posted... darkjedilink posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... Sir Will posted... Esrac posted... but the father did the right thing No, he didn't. I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye. So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat? The threat was already removed before he caused significant enough injury to kill. As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real. Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:906932609] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>but the father did the right thing</quote> No, he didn't.</quote> I get the impression we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.</quote> You think cold blooded murder of somebody who is not a threat is ok, so no, we aren't going to see eye to eye.</quote> So, a man who tries to break into a bathroom stall that is occupied by a teenaged girl isn't a threat?</quote> The threat was already removed before he caused significant enough injury to kill.</quote> As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real.</quote> Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/15/18 2:47:36 PM #46:	Dragonblade01 posted... Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance. Weird how he has the exact opposite stance when it comes to punching nazis. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:906932720] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance. </quote> Weird how he has the exact opposite stance when it comes to punching nazis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSextMachine 08/15/18 2:47:38 PM #47:	SpiralDrift posted... Not only is she losing a parent Not going to happen. Do you think a jury would convict someone for beating a child molester to death after he tried to attack a child. --- If you are reading this chances are I am pooping. <cite>TheSextMachine posted [p:906932724] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiralDrift posted...</cite> <quote>Not only is she losing a parent </quote> Not going to happen. Do you think a jury would convict someone for beating a child molester to death after he tried to attack a child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/15/18 2:47:51 PM #48:	darkjedilink posted... As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real. No. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:906932741] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real.</quote> No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 08/15/18 2:49:09 PM #49:	Esrac posted... He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? And the guy who got his ass beat died? Let him go. He's a hero. That guy who's ass he kicked deserved it and the world is probably a better place without him. ^^^ If any man ever tried to enter my daughters br stall while shes in there, hed immediately become a pedo piata hung off the doorhook by his scrotum. --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:906932816] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>He beat a guy's ass because that guy was trying to get into his daughter's bathroom stall? And the guy who got his ass beat died? Let him go. He's a hero. That guy who's ass he kicked deserved it and the world is probably a better place without him.</quote> ^^^ If any man ever tried to enter my daughters br stall while shes in there, hed immediately become a pedo piata hung off the doorhook by his scrotum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/15/18 2:59:25 PM #50:	Dragonblade01 posted... darkjedilink posted... As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real. Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance. Look up the recidivism rate on sex crimes. This wasn't his first, and wouldn't have been his last. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906933394] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real.</quote> Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance.</quote> Look up the recidivism rate on sex crimes. This wasn't his first, and wouldn't have been his last.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/15/18 3:04:28 PM #51:	darkjedilink posted... Dragonblade01 posted... darkjedilink posted... As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real. Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance. Look up the recidivism rate on sex crimes. This wasn't his first, and wouldn't have been his last. And yet the present threat was still removed before lethal injury was necessary, we still don't charge people for potential future crimes, and citizens are still not impromptu executioners. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:906933698] in Man beaten... [t:76905393]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>As long as that subhuman shitstain was still breathing, the threat was real.</quote> Demonstrably incorrect. This isn't Minority Report. We don't charge people for crimes they might commit in the future, let alone allow citizens to execute them in advance.</quote> Look up the recidivism rate on sex crimes. This wasn't his first, and wouldn't have been his last.</quote> And yet the present threat was still removed before lethal injury was necessary, we still don't charge people for potential future crimes, and citizens are still not impromptu executioners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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