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Ippa555
08/15/18 7:08:04 AM
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Rasmussen 31% Approval
NAACP 21% Approval

Are the Democrats in trouble when black people figure out that immigration does not help them at all. Will they address this problem at all or just ignore it?
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Ray_Dorset
08/15/18 7:09:44 AM
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Your ass doesn't count as a source
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Ippa555
08/15/18 7:12:51 AM
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Ray_Dorset
08/15/18 7:29:00 AM
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Ippa555 posted...
https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1029463670789533696
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/8b2f7d_311de9bd83524e9abdd220752d924797.pdf


lol that even the most biased Republican poll only puts your pos president at 50/50
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Alphamon
08/15/18 7:29:43 AM
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this is sad
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Sphyx
08/15/18 7:41:00 AM
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"Of any Republican"? Hardly a ringing endorsement.
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Milkman5
08/15/18 7:44:47 AM
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Ray_Dorset posted...

lol that even the most biased Republican poll only puts your pos president at 50/50


At this same point in time (573 days into term)
Obama was 45.5
W Bush was at 68.5
Clinton was at 45.3
Bush Sr was at 73.9
Reagan was at 41.1
Carter at 39
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Milkman5
08/15/18 7:47:32 AM
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George W Bush had the highest approval rating of all time (or at least since they have been recording the ratings) with a 88.1% approval rating at some point.

Second place goes to Harry Truman who had an 87% to start his term
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Kolibri X
08/15/18 7:48:11 AM
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They have to know immigration hurts them already. Blacks are being pushed out of their historically black neighborhoods in LA, Mexican gangsters ethnic cleansing and terrorizing blacks.... but the conditioning is strong. Don't expect that many black people to get behind Trump.
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Caution999
08/15/18 7:49:57 AM
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This is why the Dems are so desperate to find that n word tape.

Theyll just create it using some kind of software.
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Milkman5
08/15/18 7:50:30 AM
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I really doubt black people as a demographic will cling onto the DNC for much longer once they realize none of their policies are helping them in any way
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TheCyborgNinja
08/15/18 7:51:12 AM
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Caution999 posted...
This is why the Dems are so desperate to find that n word tape.

Theyll just create it using some kind of software.

There could be actual footage of Trump wearing klan robes (without the hood) and his base would find a way to dismiss the severity of it.
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Doom_Art
08/15/18 7:51:53 AM
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Milkman: "I'm not on the right, I just hold their beliefs and use their talking points"
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Milkman5
08/15/18 7:53:37 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Milkman: "I'm not on the right, I just hold their beliefs and use their talking points"


How is it a right-wing talking point to use George W Bush as an argument on why "approval rating" is a totally meaningless way to measure the quality of a president.
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Doom_Art
08/15/18 7:56:33 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
How is it a right-wing talking point to use George W Bush as an argument on why "approval rating" is a totally meaningless way to measure the quality of a president.

I was more talking about your post about "Dems don't help minorities."

The whole "Dems don't help minorities. Dems have tricked them into supporting them! Minorities should vote R so they can help themselves" is a pretty prominent right-wing talking point
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FrisbeeDude
08/15/18 7:58:22 AM
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but the conditioning is strong. Don't expect that many black people to get behind Trump

Use racist rhetoric when opining about black people, continues to wonder why they avoid the GOP like the plague

lmao
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Milkman5
08/15/18 8:03:02 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
The whole "Dems don't help minorities. Dems have tricked them into supporting them! Minorities should vote R so they can help themselves" is a pretty prominent right-wing talking point


well it's true. Liberals and the DNC fuel garbage movements like BLM which do nothing, but hurt the community. How does it help them to harbor hatred and distrust with police?

Politicians in general exist to invent problems so that people are incentivized to elect them so they can "solve" them.

I don't really want to go in depth, because I just came in here to post ratings, but it's laughable to think the DNC has any interest in helping anyone, but themselves
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Doom_Art
08/15/18 8:06:03 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Use racist rhetoric when opining about black people, continues to wonder why they avoid the GOP like the plague

Surprisingly many minority groups don't respond positively to being told: "These people have been tricking you for 50 years and you're just too stupid to see it, so vote for me"

Spooking posted...
The #WalkAway movement has been a success.

why do i only see right wing people using it
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Milkman5
08/15/18 8:06:27 AM
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I'm not saying that the GOP caters to the black community, and I don't really think they have the interests of black people specifically in mind, I just think the demographic's loyalty to the DNC is misplaced and will only go away overtime.
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untrustful
08/15/18 8:08:14 AM
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Rasmussen is like the fool's gold of polls.

That NAACP poll was only in select areas.
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Ippa555
08/15/18 8:15:04 AM
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untrustful posted...
Rasmussen is like the fool's gold of polls.

The most accurate polling in the 2016 election?

They also poll likely voters instead of registered voters which is why their polls lean right more often.
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Caution999
08/15/18 8:58:56 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Use racist rhetoric when opining about black people, continues to wonder why they avoid the GOP like the plague

Surprisingly many minority groups don't respond positively to being told: "These people have been tricking you for 50 years and you're just too stupid to see it, so vote for me"

Spooking posted...
The #WalkAway movement has been a success.

why do i only see right wing people using it


Why do you only see right wing people use it? That's like asking why you only see people who bought a product review said product. You're not gonna see a lefty saying #walkaway because they haven't walked away yet.
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TheMikh
08/15/18 9:02:42 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
Ray_Dorset posted...

lol that even the most biased Republican poll only puts your pos president at 50/50


At this same point in time (573 days into term)
Obama was 45.5
W Bush was at 68.5
Clinton was at 45.3
Bush Sr was at 73.9
Reagan was at 41.1
Carter at 39

it's almost like the approval ratings correspond to the state of the economy at that point in time
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Roshon
08/15/18 9:04:56 AM
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But are they showing out to support Trump backed candidates in elections?

So far Ive seen the opposite.
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HypnoCoosh
08/15/18 9:12:57 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Theyll just create it using some kind of software.


They already have this it's called Adobe Voco look it up.
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HypnoCoosh
08/15/18 9:14:18 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
why do i only see right wing people using it


Because that's all you want to see. There are thousands of videos with people explaining why they have walked away.
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dave_is_slick
08/15/18 9:15:25 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Doom_Art posted...
why do i only see right wing people using it


Because that's all you want to see. There are thousands of videos with people explaining why they have walked away.

And I'm sure you think that's true.
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HypnoCoosh
08/15/18 9:16:33 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
And I'm sure you think that's true.


It's more logical to think the videos are real than think they are "Russian Bots".

Have you watched any of the videos?
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Doom_Art
08/15/18 9:17:21 AM
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Yeah no like I've looked into the movement and shit. I get what it's supposed to be about, but I've really only ever seen right-wing politicians/pundits or alt-right Youtubers using it
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HypnoCoosh
08/15/18 9:19:41 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
alt-right Youtubers


You're delusional.

Because someone changes their political leaning doesn't make them an "alt-righter". Your overuse of the word is having a negative effect for you.
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Doom_Art
08/15/18 9:20:25 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Because someone changes their political leaning doesn't make them an "alt-righter"

using alt-right talking points and talkin conspiracies is what makes them alt-right
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HypnoCoosh
08/15/18 9:21:34 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
using alt-right talking points


What is an alt-right "taking point"?
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davyheinz
08/15/18 9:21:50 AM
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HypnoCoosh gets upset when you use certain words. Try not to do that, k thx
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The Great Muta 22
08/15/18 9:21:50 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Doom_Art posted...
alt-right Youtubers


You're delusional.

Because someone changes their political leaning doesn't make them an "alt-righter". Your overuse of the word is having a negative effect for you.


What if the mods of their subreddit also mod The_Donald, HillaryForPrision and TheNewRight?

Not to mention you yourself are alt right, you kooky, Sandy hook denying conspiracy theorist
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King_Hellebuyck
08/15/18 9:23:27 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Doom_Art posted...
alt-right Youtubers


You're delusional.

Because someone changes their political leaning doesn't make them an "alt-righter". Your overuse of the word is having a negative effect for you.

You think Sandy Hook was a false flag, can you really call anyone else delusional?
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scar the 1
08/15/18 9:39:43 AM
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I heard on NYT's The Daily about a study indicating that the important demographic in the midterms is Republican, college-educated women. Because they're very likely to Pokmon Go to the polls and they seem to be very on the fence about Trump.
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creativerealms
08/15/18 9:41:41 AM
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Trump was lucky to come into office during a period of economic recovery. He got to ride out the best years of the economy as opposed to Obama who had to deal with a recession and managed to get us though it and begin to fix things. I hope for the sake of the country I love that things don't start getting worse, that the economy continues to get better.

Caution999 posted...
This is why the Dems are so desperate to find that n word tape.

Theyll just create it using some kind of software.

It's weird that that it's generally the republicans who will result to making their own results if they can't find it. That generally doesn't seem to be something most dems do. This is a common republican tactic because they are willing to do dirty tactics their opponents must be doing them too, even though they can never find substantial evidence.

Here I am as a liberal democrat giving Trump credit for our current economy yet I have yet to see a republican give Obama credit for getting us out of a horrible recession and help create road to recover that Trump is currently maintaining. Both of them together deserve credit.
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darkjedilink
08/15/18 9:43:54 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Trump was lucky to come into office during a period of economic recovery. He got to ride out the best years of the economy as opposed to Obama who had to deal with a recession and managed to get us though it and begin to fix things. I hope for the sake of the country I love that things don't start getting worse, that the economy continues to get better.

Caution999 posted...
This is why the Dems are so desperate to find that n word tape.

Theyll just create it using some kind of software.

It's weird that that it's generally the republicans who will result to making their own results if they can't find it. That generally doesn't seem to be something most dems do. This is a common republican tactic because they are willing to do dirty tactics their opponents must be doing them too, even though they can never find substantial evidence.

Here I am as a liberal democrat giving Trump credit for our current economy yet I have yet to see a republican give Obama credit for getting us out of a horrible recession and help create road to recover that Trump is currently maintaining. Both of them together deserve credit.

Obama didn't 'get us out.' At best, he diverted the bleeding.

Trump's economy was created by undoing Obama's policies, so the idea that Obama had anything to do with it is laughable.
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Caution999
08/15/18 9:45:27 AM
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Yes, like any normal (objective) person, I would agree that not everything Obama did was bad. I even voted for the guy, Lol. There was a lot of good, and I felt his second term got stagnant - while he also made some terrible moves as well.
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gunplagirl
08/15/18 9:53:39 AM
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Republicans pulling out that "dems say they'll help black people but don't, but Republicans also strip nondiscrimination clauses against minorities and pass state policies in every red state that had a city-passed minimum wage hike passed" rhetoric sure gets old. Dems need to actually move further left, granted, but they're at least status quo that's decent for everyone. Republicans strip everything that helps the average person if it means the rich save a buck or two.
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coolboy11
08/15/18 9:55:06 AM
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absolutely no way Trump's net approval by black folk is anything above 10% (I'm semi leery of any type of random poll anyway)
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Doom_Art
08/15/18 9:56:55 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Republicans pulling out that "dems say they'll help black people but don't, but Republicans also strip nondiscrimination clauses against minorities and pass state policies in every red state that had a city-passed minimum wage hike passed" rhetoric sure gets old. Dems need to actually move further left, granted, but they're at least status quo that's decent for everyone. Republicans strip everything that helps the average person if it means the rich save a buck or two.

"Dems don't help you! Vote GOP and we'll... actively hurt you...?" Essentially
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BignutzisBack
08/15/18 9:59:26 AM
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Another great discussion topic on CE where people debate the subject at hand instead of using personal attacks and accusations. I can tell we've found some common ground today.
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RchHomieQuanChi
08/15/18 10:00:17 AM
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The GOP literally has Neo-Nazis backing them yet people still wonder why black people don't trust Republicans.
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gunplagirl
08/15/18 10:04:54 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Republicans pulling out that "dems say they'll help black people but don't, but Republicans also strip nondiscrimination clauses against minorities and pass state policies in every red state that had a city-passed minimum wage hike passed" rhetoric sure gets old. Dems need to actually move further left, granted, but they're at least status quo that's decent for everyone. Republicans strip everything that helps the average person if it means the rich save a buck or two.

"Dems don't help you! Vote GOP and we'll... actively hurt you...?" Essentially


Basically. The ultra rich are never impacted negatively by democrats, they flourish under Republicans and the national debt skyrockets resulting in democrats being unable to afford a lot of the programs they want to enact. But trillions of additional funding for the military when we aren't in any new wars? Somehow will always pass nearly unanimously. And of course we don't even bother passing any policies saying that the american based companies that create and sell the military its weapons can't sell to enemy nations, something that would both save US lives and avoid that annual "former US weaponry and jeeps found being used by enemy combatants in whatever middle East country we decided to invade in the past year or two" news story that gets maybe 30 seconds of airtime.
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The Great Muta 22
08/15/18 10:05:14 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Another great discussion topic on CE where people debate the subject at hand instead of using personal attacks and accusations. I can tell we've found some common ground today.


It's not a topic made in good faith for a discussion, so it deserves to be shit on. Not everything is deserving of respect or needs to be treated equally
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gunplagirl
08/15/18 10:07:33 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The GOP literally has Neo-Nazis backing them yet people still wonder why black people don't trust Republicans.


"I might not agree with the candidate about Hitler being right or his promise to eradicate minorities, but I'm white and the candidate is pro-life, pro-guns and praised Jesus. See, I'm not just a single issue voter, I know the complexities unlike democrats."
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FrisbeeDude
08/15/18 10:08:36 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The GOP literally has Neo-Nazis backing them yet people still wonder why black people don't trust Republicans.

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