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oh scare cant count
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Also various people say they will and wont ne here, I dont want a special on panth tonight
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? It was 8 then zach then me?
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DYL edited his votal post when Zach voted, so Scare presumably saw 8 votes, saw that Zach had voted, and assumed Zach's vote wasn't part of the 8
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Gj Scare
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Nope disregard, only thing I did was forget to unvote scare off Panth.

Current Votals(Last #43)

[9] - Red - (IGCD), (Sultan), (IGCD), Crescent, Ben, Sheep, Han, Puns, IGCD, Death, Zach, Scare
[2] - Panth - (Tony), (Zach), (Puns), (Scare), (IGCD), (IGCD), Tange, Sultan
[2] - Sultan - (Scare), (IGCD), (puns), (Eaed), (IGCD), FD, Edumey
[1] - IGCD - (Han), Panth
[1] - Tange - MZero, (Puns)
[1] - Zach - Tony
[0] - Han - (MZero), (IGCD), (Edumey), (Zach)
[0] - Sheep(The artist formerly known as PJ) - (Puns), (IGCD), (Scare), (Eaed), (Sultan), (Han), (Death)
[0] - MZero - (Han), (Tange), (Crescent), (Sultan)
[0] - Edumey - (Crescent)
[0] - Scare - (Sultan)
[0] - Ben - (Sheep)

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends 11:00 PM EDT on Friday.
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According to votals that is not a stop.

For some reason DYL edited Zach's vote into his post even though Zach's vote came after the votal update

Oh was zach already on him

Red it's not my fault everyone wants you dead

And you haven't given me anything to work with to try and save you if you are town

Panth gets one pass

Give an alternative

##unvote

Borrowed time
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I like the idea of twilight where if we do mislynch they have like an hour to get all their thoughts out. Early twilight is good imo
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I'm confused about IGCD. I read it on mobile earlier when I voted Han and couldn't really grasp it. So I came back to it now on my PC and I'm still just not seeing the threads.

Han blustered about MZero. T5 #376
Han "caught" IGCD for agreeing with him (without voting for MZero) T6 #155
Panthera votes IGCD. T6 # 210 and #239
Han eventually comes down to "I don't think IGCD is Scum unless Panth is" T6 #382
Panth is still voting for IGCD.
Red has listed IGCD as a direction he'd rather go.

Ultimately, I still don't understand the argument against God. (har har)

Someone please explain like I'm five.
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ScareChan posted...

Give an alternative

Igcd is one for sure at this point.

ScareChan posted...

I like the idea of twilight where if we do mislynch they have like an hour to get all their thoughts out. Early twilight is good imo

And what made you think we'd get extended twilight? We got 15 minutes on day 2 when I was hammered. Day 1 was kind of special circumstances. What gave you reason to be sure you'd get a useful twilight time instead of a shortened one that might prevent people who said they were unsure about making deadline (this includes Crescent and IGCD, if I recall correctly, and the latter in particular is someone that should be given time to post given he's on the suspect list of almost everyone) from contributing?
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Good morning

Why are we lynching red? Someone give me the spark notes version
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ScareChan posted...

It doesn't change anything

Disagree. We don't have nearly enough set to end another day early.

Panthera posted...

And what made you think we'd get extended twilight? We got 15 minutes on day 2 when I was hammered. Day 1 was kind of special circumstances. What gave you reason to be sure you'd get a useful twilight time instead of a shortened one that might prevent people who said they were unsure about making deadline (this includes Crescent and IGCD, if I recall correctly, and the latter in particular is someone that should be given time to post given he's on the suspect list of almost everyone) from contributing?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

twilight still lasts until 11:15 because I am not home...

MZero11 posted...

Good morning

Why are we lynching red? Someone give me the spark notes version

Best argument I've seen is process of elimination and no fire.

MZero11 posted...

Good morning

Why are we lynching red? Someone give me the spark notes version

He's been a complete non-entity, similar to other recent scum games, and there's no better options since the power claims are all not gonna be lynched.

PJ scanned Han and Dumey inno by the way, thoughts?
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MZero11 posted...

Good morning

Why are we lynching red? Someone give me the spark notes version

Some mixture of barely being here and barely trying while he is here

He's being so passive and uncaring that it's hard to get anything out of him

MZero11 posted...

Good morning

Why are we lynching red? Someone give me the spark notes version

Sheep claimed cop with inno scan on you and tange

Zach claimed vig who shot corrik N1, basically "confirming" ed as JK

We want to lynch someone who is unclaimed and unscanned due to literally everyone who has claimed so far is claimed power (except red)

And nobody has ever thought red was town

EDumey posted...

Ultimately, I still don't understand the argument against God. (har har)

I don't recall exactly what Han's thought process is besides that he thinks IGCD voting Leo on day 2 means he's only scum if he and I are both scum and he was trying to preserve a stronger role (in this theory, I'd be the role scum would prefer to have alive over Leo's Detective), which I disagree with since I think that would be an easy vote for scum to make to look like they had their vote on scum (for if/when Leo did flip) while not actually having much chance of getting the scum in question lynched, since I was already decided more or less as the lynch, so voting Leo there doesn't make him town.

Anyway, IGCD has basically been a peripheral player, he's posted more than Red I think but hasn't really committed to things or done much to suggest he's really trying to piece things together. He defends himself by saying he generally needs to be challenged by people to get motivated, but even when he's been pressured and voted he hasn't really shown much concern (as in, he's been a bit defensive at times but it doesn't seem to create much energy for doing anything else), nor has he made an effort to really get himself involved (if you're town and you know you only put in good work for town when you're in the thick of things, you should be trying to force the issue to get yourself going).

Additionally back when he had just replaced in, he defended Zam briefly even after the counter claim, asking if Tony could have been scum faking the counter in the hopes that town had no Watcher. It just didn't feel like a genuine town reaction, more just trying to muddy the water and see if he could cast shade on the watcher claim.
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Well MZero just got confused

Leafeon13N posted...

ScareChan posted...

Give an alternative

Igcd is one for sure at this point.

##unvote
##vote: IGCD

Who will help swing it

turbopuns2 posted...

Panthera posted...

And what made you think we'd get extended twilight? We got 15 minutes on day 2 when I was hammered. Day 1 was kind of special circumstances. What gave you reason to be sure you'd get a useful twilight time instead of a shortened one that might prevent people who said they were unsure about making deadline (this includes Crescent and IGCD, if I recall correctly, and the latter in particular is someone that should be given time to post given he's on the suspect list of almost everyone) from contributing?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

twilight still lasts until 11:15 because I am not home...

That was said after Scare thought he had hammered. From what he knew at the time, we were 50/50 so far on getting long or short twilights.
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Also i have to point out igcd is sitting in the shadows and his timestamp keeps updating. Literally watching me burn.

Current Votals(Last #72)

[7] - Red - (IGCD), (Sultan), (IGCD), Crescent, Ben, Sheep, Han, (Puns), IGCD, Death, Zach, (Scare)
[2] - Panth - (Tony), (Zach), (Puns), (Scare), (IGCD), (IGCD), Tange, Sultan
[2] - Sultan - (Scare), (IGCD), (puns), (Eaed), (IGCD), FD, Edumey
[2] - IGCD - (Han), Panth, Puns
[1] - Tange - MZero, (Puns)
[1] - Zach - Tony
[0] - Han - (MZero), (IGCD), (Edumey), (Zach)
[0] - Sheep(The artist formerly known as PJ) - (Puns), (IGCD), (Scare), (Eaed), (Sultan), (Han), (Death)
[0] - MZero - (Han), (Tange), (Crescent), (Sultan)
[0] - Edumey - (Crescent)
[0] - Scare - (Sultan)
[0] - Ben - (Sheep)

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends 11:00 PM EDT on Friday.

Day ends in roughly 1 hour.
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So according to the Red argument summary from Crescent and the IGCD argument summary from Panth, our two options are "Player that should be more involved" and "Player that should be more involved".

I guess I can see why this deadline is completely lacking in enthusiasm.
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Ok I'll be back in 40 or so minutes, hopefully. Shouldnt be worse than 50.

Red you're not exactly making much of an argument, just kind of passively passing the buck to IGCD.

Anyway

##vote: igcd

Crescent-Moon posted...

Red you're not exactly making much of an argument, just kind of passively passing the buck to IGCD.

Hes literally here and not saying anything.

EDumey posted...

So according to the Red argument summary from Crescent and the IGCD argument summary from Panth, our two options are "Player that should be more involved" and "Player that should be more involved".

I guess I can see why this deadline is completely lacking in enthusiasm.

Red's scumlist last night was super lazy and didn't really give reasons for anything. That was my tipping point.

Oh we still have an hour? Thought it was over >_>

Why did Sheep and Zach claim? Also I'm getting conflicting reports on who was scanned :I
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Leafeon13N posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Red you're not exactly making much of an argument, just kind of passively passing the buck to IGCD.

Hes literally here and not saying anything.

are you?
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Crescent-Moon posted...

EDumey posted...

So according to the Red argument summary from Crescent and the IGCD argument summary from Panth, our two options are "Player that should be more involved" and "Player that should be more involved".

I guess I can see why this deadline is completely lacking in enthusiasm.

Red's scumlist last night was super lazy and didn't really give reasons for anything. That was my tipping point.

I pre empted that post with my reasoning for all of those.

MZero11 posted...

Oh we still have an hour? Thought it was over >_>

Why did Sheep and Zach claim? Also I'm getting conflicting reports on who was scanned :I

which ones do you believe?
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EDumey posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Red you're not exactly making much of an argument, just kind of passively passing the buck to IGCD.

Hes literally here and not saying anything.

are you?

No, I'm sitting here outside the topic not posting anything.

EDumey posted...

MZero11 posted...

Oh we still have an hour? Thought it was over >_>

Why did Sheep and Zach claim? Also I'm getting conflicting reports on who was scanned :I

which ones do you believe?

Well obviously the one that includes an inno scan on me is inherently more believable!
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MZero11 posted...

Why did Sheep and Zach claim? Also I'm getting conflicting reports on who was scanned

I claimed because I thought the information would be used a little more proactively than it has, Zach claimed because I asked him to same time claim with me and he already softclaimed.

I (or more accurately, PJ) scanned you and Tange, both innocent. Unfortunately Puns ruined my fun :/
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turbopuns2 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

ScareChan posted...

Give an alternative

Igcd is one for sure at this point.

##unvote
##vote: IGCD

Who will help swing it

Dont do this. I will claim right now because I have 5mins for a smoke. I have been skimming but I want to point out han and red keep calling me scum without even throwing votes it's obvious one or both of them are just trying to get the lynch going because they dont want to get their hands dirty.

I am vanilla. Slide Goo Goo Dolls.
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Im here for 20 minutes.

It seems to me like its the same case for red and for IGCD. In either scenario i don't feel like we are going to learn as much from either of their flips compared to Sultan.

But it seems like that's not an option anymore.
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yeah kinda looks like it.

I'm conflicted. I responded to Tony earlier that no body going to bat for Red was a bit of WIFOM and a null tell. But as we're in the last hour with no one it really looks like scum is just content to let this lynch sit. Scare tried to hammer. Puns made a post as if he were going to train the opposite direction.

I personally just don't like these type of inactivity lynches. But I suppose it's gotta happen at some point.
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Sheep007 posted...

I claimed because I thought the information would be used a little more proactively than it has

What were you thinking would be done with it, exactly? Because it seems like MZero and Tange both had some people out for blood on them, back when the lynch was nowhere near settled, and then your claim made pretty much everyone collectively move away from them.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

ScareChan posted...

Give an alternative

Igcd is one for sure at this point.

##unvote
##vote: IGCD

Who will help swing it

Dont do this. I will claim right now because I have 5mins for a smoke. I have been skimming but I want to point out han and red keep calling me scum without even throwing votes it's obvious one or both of them are just trying to get the lynch going because they dont want to get their hands dirty.

I am vanilla. Slide Goo Goo Dolls.

Called it. Baited hard btw.

MZero11 posted...

Well obviously the one that includes an inno scan on me is inherently more believable!

Lets try not to forget about Plum being Janitored. If Plum was power then scum have a pretty easy pocket claim on whatever he was including easily faked roles like Cop.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Dont do this. I will claim right now because I have 5mins for a smoke. I have been skimming but I want to point out han and red keep calling me scum without even throwing votes it's obvious one or both of them are just trying to get the lynch going because they dont want to get their hands dirty.

I am vanilla. Slide Goo Goo Dolls.

Han had his vote on your for a while though. He unvoted when he came up with a theory that he thought made you less likely to be scum.
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Panthera posted...

What were you thinking would be done with it, exactly? Because it seems like MZero and Tange both had some people out for blood on them, back when the lynch was nowhere near settled, and then your claim made pretty much everyone collectively move away from them.

I was hoping there might be a little more pressure on those who weren't yet claimed but weren't my scans(i.e Ben and Red). However, it was unfortunately followed by very few votes on non-power except one or two on Red (which he had bugger all response to), for quite some time.
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Ugh dont tell me most of the game vanished on me. I literally caught igcd lurking, he had been for about 15 minutes.

I am trying to feed you guys scum here.

I thought we were in twilight?
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You guys did, wow. I hope you guys realize scum is lurking to and if town just lets this happen they are perfectly fine with it.

Also, you guys posted way too much.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I thought we were in twilight?

No remember when i said scare had momentary lapses.

He only momentarily crushed my soul.