Poll of the Day > A topic about gay guys donating blood...

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LinkPizza 08/04/18 10:05:40 PM #1:	I know a lot of people won't agree with me, but I don't really like some of the questions for donating blood. Nor do I agree with some of them. The reason is that one of the questions for males is if they had EVER had sexual contact with another male. If they answer yes, they are never allowed to donate ever again. So, if a HIV negative male has protected sex with another HIV negative male, they can never donate blood. Even if it was 10, or even 15, years ago. Yet if an HIV negative person has unprotected sex with an HIV positive person of the opposite sex, it's ok to donate as long as it was more than 12 months ago... I understand that it's easier for gay males who have had anal sex to get HIV(if they have sex with an HIV positive person). But the question makes it seem like every gay male who has had sex with another male automatically has it. At one point, there was even a question for females that asked it they had ever had sexual contact with a male who had any sexual contact with another male. Which I believe was also only 12 months. Personally, I wish they would only ask everyone as a whole if anyone has had any sexual contact with a HIV person instead. But what do you guys think? Also, I had heard of a few countries that were changing that requirement. It was still a 12 month(I believe) wait. So, if a male had any sexual contect with another male, they couldn't donate until 12 months after, so that's a little better. But who knows if they the US would even do that. AFAIK, we haven't. But I could be wrong. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906281879] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>I know a lot of people won't agree with me, but I don't really like some of the questions for donating blood. Nor do I agree with some of them. The reason is that one of the questions for males is if they had EVER had sexual contact with another male. If they answer yes, they are never allowed to donate ever again. So, if a HIV negative male has protected sex with another HIV negative male, they can never donate blood. Even if it was 10, or even 15, years ago. Yet if an HIV negative person has unprotected sex with an HIV positive person of the opposite sex, it's ok to donate as long as it was more than 12 months ago... I understand that it's easier for gay males who have had anal sex to get HIV(if they have sex with an HIV positive person). But the question makes it seem like every gay male who has had sex with another male automatically has it. At one point, there was even a question for females that asked it they had ever had sexual contact with a male who had any sexual contact with another male. Which I believe was also only 12 months. Personally, I wish they would only ask everyone as a whole if anyone has had any sexual contact with a HIV person instead. But what do you guys think? Also, I had heard of a few countries that were changing that requirement. It was still a 12 month(I believe) wait. So, if a male had any sexual contect with another male, they couldn't donate until 12 months after, so that's a little better. But who knows if they the US would even do that. AFAIK, we haven't. But I could be wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 08/04/18 10:09:51 PM #2:	Wuh Should i screenshot this? --- I use inverted controls. Also I hate fandoms. If you see a woman and you think she's thicc, she's probably not thicc. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:906282087] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>Wuh Should i screenshot this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 08/04/18 10:12:21 PM #3:	I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner. <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:906282189] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/04/18 10:14:00 PM #4:	Blorfenburger posted... Wuh Should i screenshot this? ??? CacciatoPart3 posted... I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner. I have heard this one before... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906282267] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blorfenburger posted...</cite> <quote>Wuh Should i screenshot this?</quote> ??? <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner.</quote> I have heard this one before...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 08/04/18 10:18:38 PM #5:	I dont know if its because im out of it but i got no idea what youre sayin --- I use inverted controls. Also I hate fandoms. If you see a woman and you think she's thicc, she's probably not thicc. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:906282495] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>I dont know if its because im out of it but i got no idea what youre sayin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/04/18 10:21:55 PM #6:	Blorfenburger posted... I dont know if its because im out of it but i got no idea what youre sayin Basically, males who have had sexual contact with males can't donate blood even if they're clean. But people who have had sex with HIV positive people of the opposite gender still can, as long as it was 12 months ago. I just don't think it's fair or agree with it. Other stuff, too. Maybe it's because you're out of it. Or maybe it's a little confusing and I understand it because I wrote it... You could check it out later when you're not so out of it... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906282642] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blorfenburger posted...</cite> <quote>I dont know if its because im out of it but i got no idea what youre sayin</quote> Basically, males who have had sexual contact with males can't donate blood even if they're clean. But people who have had sex with HIV positive people of the opposite gender still can, as long as it was 12 months ago. I just don't think it's fair or agree with it. Other stuff, too. Maybe it's because you're out of it. Or maybe it's a little confusing and I understand it because I wrote it... You could check it out later when you're not so out of it...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 08/04/18 10:23:49 PM #7:	yeah, that's kinda weird. it's an archaic and misguided rule <cite>green dragon posted [p:906282722] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>yeah, that's kinda weird. it's an archaic and misguided rule</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 08/04/18 10:25:19 PM #8:	CacciatoPart3 posted... I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner. I donate blood so my blood will be in another man's boner, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:906282810] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner.</quote> I donate blood so my blood will be in another man's boner, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/04/18 10:27:10 PM #9:	green dragon posted... yeah, that's kinda weird. it's an archaic and misguided rule Yeah. I think it's also an old rule. But nobody has thought of changing it. Here, at least. It just kinda sucks... I believe most of those places test the blood, anyway. They usually take a couple vials before taking the rest. So why wouldn't they just take blood from anyone who's clean, and then test them before putting them up or using them? I think that would work, right? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906282897] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>green dragon posted...</cite> <quote>yeah, that's kinda weird. it's an archaic and misguided rule</quote> Yeah. I think it's also an old rule. But nobody has thought of changing it. Here, at least. It just kinda sucks... I believe most of those places test the blood, anyway. They usually take a couple vials before taking the rest. So why wouldn't they just take blood from anyone who's clean, and then test them before putting them up or using them? I think that would work, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/04/18 10:27:27 PM #10:	ClarkDuke posted... CacciatoPart3 posted... I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner. I donate blood so my blood will be in another man's boner, ok? I have also heard this one. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906282912] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClarkDuke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner.</quote> I donate blood so my blood will be in another man's boner, ok?</quote> I have also heard this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/04/18 10:47:03 PM #11:	I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906283804] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/04/18 10:49:13 PM #12:	Lokarin posted... I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers? I am not sure about that... Though I do know they do have a lot of questions about traveling around certain countries around certain years... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906283913] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers?</quote> I am not sure about that... Though I do know they do have a lot of questions about traveling around certain countries around certain years...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 08/04/18 11:26:10 PM #13:	Lokarin posted... I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers? Did your school not have a health class? <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:906285628] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers?</quote> Did your school not have a health class?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/04/18 11:26:49 PM #14:	CacciatoPart3 posted... Lokarin posted... I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers? Did your school not have a health class? https://www.the-scientist.com/research-round-up/could-the-black-death-protect-against-hiv-54468 --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906285648] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>I'm going off old information here, but I thought northwestern European/plague survivors were practically immune to HIV anyways... Or can they still be, like, carriers?</quote> Did your school not have a health class?</quote> https://www.the-scientist.com/research-round-up/could-the-black-death-protect-against-hiv-54468</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CacciatoPart3 08/04/18 11:30:43 PM #15:	Good news, LinkPizza, maybe you're one of the <1% of the human population with an innate resistance to HIV. I guess the remaining 99% of the population is fucked. <cite>CacciatoPart3 posted [p:906285813] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>Good news, LinkPizza, maybe you're one of the <1% of the human population with an innate resistance to HIV. I guess the remaining 99% of the population is fucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/04/18 11:40:57 PM #16:	CacciatoPart3 posted... Good news, LinkPizza, maybe you're one of the <1% of the human population with an innate resistance to HIV. I guess the remaining 99% of the population is fucked. Probably not. But that still doesn't help with the horrible rules... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906286258] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>Good news, LinkPizza, maybe you're one of the <1% of the human population with an innate resistance to HIV. I guess the remaining 99% of the population is fucked.</quote> Probably not. But that still doesn't help with the horrible rules...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/05/18 1:36:23 AM #17:	This is news to me. Still wouldn't the problem be solved by getting a HIV test done and proving these gay folk are not HIV positive be enough? --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:906290757] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>This is news to me. Still wouldn't the problem be solved by getting a HIV test done and proving these gay folk are not HIV positive be enough?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/05/18 1:51:41 AM #18:	wwinterj25 posted... This is news to me. Still wouldn't the problem be solved by getting a HIV test done and proving these gay folk are not HIV positive be enough? That's what you would think. Getting a test done would solve the problem. Or testing the blood with the sample vials you get. But they have that stupid rule. And it's ridiculous. Especially since we have ways to test it. And they have to test it, anyway. So, why should it matter who they have had sex with if you're going to have to test it first regardless? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906291289] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>This is news to me. Still wouldn't the problem be solved by getting a HIV test done and proving these gay folk are not HIV positive be enough?</quote> That's what you would think. Getting a test done would solve the problem. Or testing the blood with the sample vials you get. But they have that stupid rule. And it's ridiculous. Especially since we have ways to test it. And they have to test it, anyway. So, why should it matter who they have had sex with if you're going to have to test it first regardless?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XlaxJynx007 08/05/18 2:09:30 AM #19:	Who cares, why is this a big deal? --- XB1: MrMegaNutz Steam: Kennetic <cite>XlaxJynx007 posted [p:906291925] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>Who cares, why is this a big deal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/05/18 2:12:20 AM #20:	XlaxJynx007 posted... Who cares, why is this a big deal? If you don't care, that's fine. I do, though. Mainly because I'm gay. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906292011] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>XlaxJynx007 posted...</cite> <quote>Who cares, why is this a big deal?</quote> If you don't care, that's fine. I do, though. Mainly because I'm gay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
demonfang178 08/05/18 9:11:41 AM #21:	...I mean, they are going to test the blood, right? They not really just going to take peoples' word for it...? <cite>demonfang178 posted [p:906299990] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>...I mean, they are going to test the blood, right? They not really just going to take peoples' word for it...?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/05/18 9:13:44 AM #22:	CacciatoPart3 posted... I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner. You forgot "Miss me with that gay shit." --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:906300037] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>CacciatoPart3 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont donate blood cus it might be transfused into a dude and I'll be damned if my blood ends up in someone else's boner.</quote> You forgot "Miss me with that gay shit."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 08/05/18 9:19:13 AM #23:	It seems pretty obvious that this rule is extremely outdated and based upon the fears we had back when we didn't know a whole lot about HIV. I wouldn't expect our current government to change that though. --- My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/ <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:906300180] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>It seems pretty obvious that this rule is extremely outdated and based upon the fears we had back when we didn't know a whole lot about HIV. I wouldn't expect our current government to change that though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninja_lootz 08/05/18 9:29:57 AM #24:	What if what they really want is gay virgin blood? --- MY HELMET'S ON YOU CAN'T TELL ME I'M NOT IN SPACE <cite>ninja_lootz posted [p:906300465] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>What if what they really want is gay virgin blood?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trogita 08/05/18 9:45:39 AM #25:	Just test it! The tests are not 100% reliable. No test is. And when youre running the test millions of times, there will be errors. In the case of HIV, a single error is massively costly with the potential to result in unnecessary death. So, its only prudent to maintain other safeguards even when testing is used. The reality is that HIV is still more common among gay men, so disallowing their participation is a statistically informed precaution. You cant solely rely on the test to flag problems. Demographic markers of risk can and should be used. <cite>trogita posted [p:906300833] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>Just test it! The tests are not 100% reliable. No test is. And when youre running the test millions of times, there will be errors. In the case of HIV, a single error is massively costly with the potential to result in unnecessary death. So, its only prudent to maintain other safeguards even when testing is used. The reality is that HIV is still more common among gay men, so disallowing their participation is a statistically informed precaution. You cant solely rely on the test to flag problems. Demographic markers of risk can and should be used.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 08/05/18 10:00:15 AM #26:	LinkPizza posted... I understand that it's easier for gay males who have had anal sex to get HIV So you do understand, you just want to complain. --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:906301215] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote> I understand that it's easier for gay males who have had anal sex to get HIV</quote> So you do understand, you just want to complain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eli_loves_ddr 08/05/18 10:26:02 AM #27:	Even though these rules are pretty demeaning, it doesn't bother me. I have a guilt free excuse for never donating blood. And I think in Canada it's 12 months without anal and you can donate again. Not worth it. --- CFN: DDRgasm (Menat) DBFZ: GlutenFreeKrilln (Growhan or Vegito/ Frieza / Krillin) <cite>eli_loves_ddr posted [p:906301973] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>Even though these rules are pretty demeaning, it doesn't bother me. I have a guilt free excuse for never donating blood. And I think in Canada it's 12 months without anal and you can donate again. Not worth it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HillChange 08/05/18 10:34:11 AM #28:	LinkPizza posted... Also, I had heard of a few countries that were changing that requirement. It was still a 12 month(I believe) wait. So, if a male had any sexual contect with another male, they couldn't donate until 12 months after, so that's a little better. But who knows if they the US would even do that. AFAIK, we haven't. But I could be wrong. Well, then, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure the US made that change a couple years ago. But even that change still blacklists all the gay guys in long-term monogamous relationships. <cite>HillChange posted [p:906302240] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I had heard of a few countries that were changing that requirement. It was still a 12 month(I believe) wait. So, if a male had any sexual contect with another male, they couldn't donate until 12 months after, so that's a little better. But who knows if they the US would even do that. AFAIK, we haven't. But I could be wrong.</quote> Well, then, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure the US made that change a couple years ago. But even that change still blacklists all the gay guys in long-term monogamous relationships.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 08/05/18 10:47:29 AM #29:	You're advocating "equality" above health which is fucking wrong. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:906302613] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>You're advocating "equality" above health which is fucking wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 08/05/18 11:05:19 AM #30:	I wouldn't get a blood transfusion in California... No, that's not a jab at gay people. It's a jab at California being stupid enough to decriminalize knowingly giving AIDS to other people. --- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:906303216] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't get a blood transfusion in California... No, that's not a jab at gay people. It's a jab at California being stupid enough to decriminalize knowingly giving AIDS to other people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 08/05/18 11:05:47 AM #31:	Veedrock- posted... You're advocating "equality" above health which is fucking wrong. Stop with your logic; some sjw's feelings might get hurt. --- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:906303237] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>You're advocating "equality" above health which is fucking wrong.</quote> Stop with your logic; some sjw's feelings might get hurt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 08/05/18 11:08:00 AM #32:	LinkPizza posted... The reason is that one of the questions for males is if they had EVER had sexual contact with another male. If they answer yes, they are never allowed to donate ever again. If you're a woman that has had sex with a man that has had sex with men you're also ineligible. Making me ineligible for life It's not just men It's a pretty shitty policy! --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:906303308] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>The reason is that one of the questions for males is if they had EVER had sexual contact with another male. If they answer yes, they are never allowed to donate ever again.</quote> If you're a woman that has had sex with a man that has had sex with men you're also ineligible. Making me ineligible for life It's not just men It's a pretty shitty policy!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 08/05/18 11:57:38 AM #33:	From the Red Cross Blood Organization FAQ page: "On December 21, 2015, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued final guidance for deferral criteria for men who have had sex with men (MSM). AABB, America's Blood Centers and the Red Cross support the FDA's decision to change the MSM blood donation policy from a lifetime deferral to a one-year deferral and additionally for the purposes of blood donation gender is self-identified and self-reported, which is relevant to the transgender community. This policy change aligns the MSM donor deferral period with those for other activities that may pose a similar risk of transfusion-transmissable infections. First-time male donors may now be eligible to donate blood if they have not had sex with another man in more than 12 months. All additional blood donation eligibility criteria will apply. Donors who were previously deferred under the prior MSM policy will be evaluated for reinstatement. It is important to understand that the donor reinstatement process involves potentially thousands of donors, and it will take time. Individuals who have been deferred for MSM in the past may initiate donor reinstatement beginning January 2017 by contacting the Red Cross Donor and Client Support Center at 1-866-236-3276. Individuals with questions about their donation eligibility can contact the Red Cross Donor and Client Support Center at 1-866-236-3276. We appreciate the patience of our valued donors as we continue to diligently work to implement these changes so that more people can give blood for those in need." Source: https://www.redcrossblood.org/faq.html#eligibility <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:906305091] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>From the Red Cross Blood Organization FAQ page: "On December 21, 2015, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued final guidance for deferral criteria for men who have had sex with men (MSM). AABB, America's Blood Centers and the Red Cross support the FDA's decision to change the MSM blood donation policy from a lifetime deferral to a one-year deferral and additionally for the purposes of blood donation gender is self-identified and self-reported, which is relevant to the transgender community. This policy change aligns the MSM donor deferral period with those for other activities that may pose a similar risk of transfusion-transmissable infections. First-time male donors may now be eligible to donate blood if they have not had sex with another man in more than 12 months. All additional blood donation eligibility criteria will apply. Donors who were previously deferred under the prior MSM policy will be evaluated for reinstatement. It is important to understand that the donor reinstatement process involves potentially thousands of donors, and it will take time. Individuals who have been deferred for MSM in the past may initiate donor reinstatement beginning January 2017 by contacting the Red Cross Donor and Client Support Center at 1-866-236-3276. Individuals with questions about their donation eligibility can contact the Red Cross Donor and Client Support Center at 1-866-236-3276. We appreciate the patience of our valued donors as we continue to diligently work to implement these changes so that more people can give blood for those in need." Source: https://www.redcrossblood.org/faq.html#eligibility</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/05/18 12:13:38 PM #34:	Why let donors choose their gender? Might as well not ask. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:906305719] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>Why let donors choose their gender? Might as well not ask.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil69Leo 08/05/18 2:37:44 PM #35:	How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is. <cite>Lil69Leo posted [p:906312680] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 08/05/18 2:40:17 PM #36:	Lil69Leo posted... How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is. The problem is that blood donations work a lot on the honor system. --- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:906312812] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil69Leo posted...</cite> <quote>How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is.</quote> The problem is that blood donations work a lot on the honor system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/05/18 3:15:21 PM #37:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Why let donors choose their gender? Might as well not ask. Heh "Ok, so are you a gay man or a non-transitioning repressed transexual lesbian with body image disphoria" "ah ma gerd, TRIGGEREEEED" --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906314546] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Why let donors choose their gender? Might as well not ask.</quote> Heh "Ok, so are you a gay man or a non-transitioning repressed transexual lesbian with body image disphoria" "ah ma gerd, TRIGGEREEEED"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 08/05/18 3:24:45 PM #38:	Lil69Leo posted... How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is. Now this is something I have to research. I highly doubt that they don't test blood for viruses and diseases. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:906315035] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil69Leo posted...</cite> <quote>How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is.</quote> Now this is something I have to research. I highly doubt that they don't test blood for viruses and diseases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/05/18 5:08:53 PM #39:	trogita posted... Just test it! The tests are not 100% reliable. No test is. And when youre running the test millions of times, there will be errors. In the case of HIV, a single error is massively costly with the potential to result in unnecessary death. So, its only prudent to maintain other safeguards even when testing is used. The reality is that HIV is still more common among gay men, so disallowing their participation is a statistically informed precaution. You cant solely rely on the test to flag problems. Demographic markers of risk can and should be used. I know that no test is 100%. But it's still weird that a gay man who has only had sex once(protected) 15 years ago still can't donate blood. While the guy who had sex with a HIV positive woman only had to wait a year to donate. SmokeMassTree posted... LinkPizza posted... I understand that it's easier for gay males who have had anal sex to get HIV So you do understand, you just want to complain. I understand that's it easier for us to get it if we have an HIV positive partner. But that doesn't mean we all have it. HillChange posted... LinkPizza posted... Also, I had heard of a few countries that were changing that requirement. It was still a 12 month(I believe) wait. So, if a male had any sexual contect with another male, they couldn't donate until 12 months after, so that's a little better. But who knows if they the US would even do that. AFAIK, we haven't. But I could be wrong. Well, then, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure the US made that change a couple years ago. But even that change still blacklists all the gay guys in long-term monogamous relationships. Which still kind sucks. And I guess it changed for blood. But not for selling plasma. They still have the ever thing on their list. Doctor Foxx posted... LinkPizza posted... The reason is that one of the questions for males is if they had EVER had sexual contact with another male. If they answer yes, they are never allowed to donate ever again. If you're a woman that has had sex with a man that has had sex with men you're also ineligible. Making me ineligible for life It's not just men It's a pretty shitty policy! I saw that one, too. And it's also a dumb rule. They should really look into these rules and change them. But like @Pus_N_Pecans said, our current government most likely won't change them... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906320594] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>trogita posted...</cite> <quote>Just test it! The tests are not 100% reliable. No test is. And when youre running the test millions of times, there will be errors. In the case of HIV, a single error is massively costly with the potential to result in unnecessary death. So, its only prudent to maintain other safeguards even when testing is used. The reality is that HIV is still more common among gay men, so disallowing their participation is a statistically informed precaution. You cant solely rely on the test to flag problems. Demographic markers of risk can and should be used.</quote> I know that no test is 100%. But it's still weird that a gay man who has only had sex once(protected) 15 years ago still can't donate blood. While the guy who had sex with a HIV positive woman only had to wait a year to donate. <cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote> I understand that it's easier for gay males who have had anal sex to get HIV</quote> So you do understand, you just want to complain.</quote> I understand that's it easier for us to get it if we have an HIV positive partner. But that doesn't mean we all have it. <cite>HillChange posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Also, I had heard of a few countries that were changing that requirement. It was still a 12 month(I believe) wait. So, if a male had any sexual contect with another male, they couldn't donate until 12 months after, so that's a little better. But who knows if they the US would even do that. AFAIK, we haven't. But I could be wrong.</quote> Well, then, you're wrong. I'm pretty sure the US made that change a couple years ago. But even that change still blacklists all the gay guys in long-term monogamous relationships.</quote> Which still kind sucks. And I guess it changed for blood. But not for selling plasma. They still have the ever thing on their list. <cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>The reason is that one of the questions for males is if they had EVER had sexual contact with another male. If they answer yes, they are never allowed to donate ever again.</quote> If you're a woman that has had sex with a man that has had sex with men you're also ineligible. Making me ineligible for life It's not just men It's a pretty shitty policy!</quote> I saw that one, too. And it's also a dumb rule. They should really look into these rules and change them. But like @Pus_N_Pecans said, our current government most likely won't change them...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/05/18 5:11:38 PM #40:	GanglyKhan posted... Lil69Leo posted... How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is. Now this is something I have to research. I highly doubt that they don't test blood for viruses and diseases. They do, AFAIK. Some places tell you they test random samples. they also test for like drug usage and stuff, too. And I've had blood donations where they have taken like a couple vials separately. And I believe they said they use those for testing the blood. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906320749] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil69Leo posted...</cite> <quote>How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is.</quote> Now this is something I have to research. I highly doubt that they don't test blood for viruses and diseases.</quote> They do, AFAIK. Some places tell you they test random samples. they also test for like drug usage and stuff, too. And I've had blood donations where they have taken like a couple vials separately. And I believe they said they use those for testing the blood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/05/18 5:13:20 PM #41:	LinkPizza posted... That's what you would think. Getting a test done would solve the problem. Or testing the blood with the sample vials you get. But they have that stupid rule. And it's ridiculous. Especially since we have ways to test it. And they have to test it, anyway. So, why should it matter who they have had sex with if you're going to have to test it first regardless? It certainly seems stupid limiting the amount of folk who can donate blood when their blood would be perfectly useful and could save a life. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:906320840] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>That's what you would think. Getting a test done would solve the problem. Or testing the blood with the sample vials you get. But they have that stupid rule. And it's ridiculous. Especially since we have ways to test it. And they have to test it, anyway. So, why should it matter who they have had sex with if you're going to have to test it first regardless?</quote> It certainly seems stupid limiting the amount of folk who can donate blood when their blood would be perfectly useful and could save a life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 08/05/18 5:16:54 PM #42:	One of my friends got a false hepatitis positive on her blood when it was tested after donation. It freaked her out. She even got an apology from the Red Cross for the mistake. She's still banned for life because of their fuck up --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:906321036] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>One of my friends got a false hepatitis positive on her blood when it was tested after donation. It freaked her out. She even got an apology from the Red Cross for the mistake. She's still banned for life because of their fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/05/18 5:20:04 PM #43:	Doctor Foxx posted... One of my friends got a false hepatitis positive on her blood when it was tested after donation. It freaked her out. She even got an apology from the Red Cross for the mistake. She's still banned for life because of their fuck up That sucks! To get banned for like for a false positive from a test you don't really have any control over. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906321231] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote>One of my friends got a false hepatitis positive on her blood when it was tested after donation. It freaked her out. She even got an apology from the Red Cross for the mistake. She's still banned for life because of their fuck up</quote> That sucks! To get banned for like for a false positive from a test you don't really have any control over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 08/05/18 5:20:59 PM #44:	LinkPizza posted... I know that no test is 100%. But it's still weird that a gay man who has only had sex once(protected) 15 years ago still can't donate blood. While the guy who had sex with a HIV positive woman only had to wait a year to donate. Please read my post (#33). <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:906321289] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I know that no test is 100%. But it's still weird that a gay man who has only had sex once(protected) 15 years ago still can't donate blood. While the guy who had sex with a HIV positive woman only had to wait a year to donate.</quote> Please read my post (#33).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/05/18 5:23:49 PM #45:	GanglyKhan posted... LinkPizza posted... I know that no test is 100%. But it's still weird that a gay man who has only had sex once(protected) 15 years ago still can't donate blood. While the guy who had sex with a HIV positive woman only had to wait a year to donate. Please read my post (#33). Yeah. I saw. It was after I posted. But some of these rules still apply to certain places. Like the plasma place I recently went to still asked on their forms. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906321451] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I know that no test is 100%. But it's still weird that a gay man who has only had sex once(protected) 15 years ago still can't donate blood. While the guy who had sex with a HIV positive woman only had to wait a year to donate.</quote> Please read my post (#33).</quote> Yeah. I saw. It was after I posted. But some of these rules still apply to certain places. Like the plasma place I recently went to still asked on their forms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/05/18 5:30:05 PM #46:	If Im dying please give me some gay person blood if the alternative is letting me die --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906321797] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>If Im dying please give me some gay person blood if the alternative is letting me die</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/05/18 5:35:42 PM #47:	My blood did save a life once. They called to let me know. It was kinda weird... But I have O-, so I like to donate... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906322122] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote>My blood did save a life once. They called to let me know. It was kinda weird... But I have O-, so I like to donate...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 08/05/18 5:40:32 PM #48:	LinkPizza posted... My blood did save a life once. They called to let me know. It was kinda weird... But I have O-, so I like to donate... Blood type buddies! They just emailed me asking for a donation recently so I should go do that asap. No new risks in a while --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:906322420] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>My blood did save a life once. They called to let me know. It was kinda weird... But I have O-, so I like to donate...</quote> Blood type buddies! They just emailed me asking for a donation recently so I should go do that asap. No new risks in a while</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil69Leo 08/06/18 3:54:00 AM #49:	LinkPizza posted... GanglyKhan posted... Lil69Leo posted... How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is. Now this is something I have to research. I highly doubt that they don't test blood for viruses and diseases. They do, AFAIK. Some places tell you they test random samples. they also test for like drug usage and stuff, too. And I've had blood donations where they have taken like a couple vials separately. And I believe they said they use those for testing the blood. I assumed every batch was tested for the various more common issues tbh. <cite>Lil69Leo posted [p:906350935] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil69Leo posted...</cite> <quote>How about if you get your blood tested and it's clean you can donate? Because god knows there is not enough donations as is.</quote> Now this is something I have to research. I highly doubt that they don't test blood for viruses and diseases.</quote> They do, AFAIK. Some places tell you they test random samples. they also test for like drug usage and stuff, too. And I've had blood donations where they have taken like a couple vials separately. And I believe they said they use those for testing the blood.</quote> I assumed every batch was tested for the various more common issues tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 08/06/18 4:24:03 AM #50:	Doctor Foxx posted... LinkPizza posted... My blood did save a life once. They called to let me know. It was kinda weird... But I have O-, so I like to donate... Blood type buddies! They just emailed me asking for a donation recently so I should go do that asap. No new risks in a while RH Negative? You two dont happen to have reddish hair? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:906351545] in A topic ab... [t:76871522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>My blood did save a life once. They called to let me know. It was kinda weird... But I have O-, so I like to donate...</quote> Blood type buddies! They just emailed me asking for a donation recently so I should go do that asap. No new risks in a while</quote> RH Negative? You two dont happen to have reddish hair?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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