Current Events > The ''dog whistle'' is probably the dumbest concept in modern discourse.

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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:08:41 AM
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Thinking border security is important and people shouldn't be able to get away with breaking immigration laws to sap the benefits of citizens = you hate brown people

Being skeptical about encroaching influence of foreign governments across national borders = You hate jews.

Thinking kids aren't capable of making medical decisions that will affect them for the rest of their lives = you're transphobic.

Essentially, the ''dog whistle'' is just a really lazy tactic of trying to end an argument without ever engaging intellectually by calling someone a bigot with no real evidence. The most hilarious thing is, the people who are most likely to call you anti-semitic for not liking globalism are the same people who will support Hamas over Israel.

tl;dr: if anyone unironically accuses someone of using a ''dog whistle'', it's best to write them off as a low-information individual.
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Doom_Art
08/03/18 12:09:18 AM
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Yikes that's a melty
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FrisbeeDude
08/03/18 12:09:51 AM
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lmao
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ASithLord7
08/03/18 12:09:51 AM
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ITT term from 1988 = modern concept
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Milkman5
08/03/18 12:10:02 AM
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it's just a dumb liberal buzzword like problematic, triggered etc
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DavidWong
08/03/18 12:10:06 AM
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tbqh, I'd rather an illegal immigrant working hard and contributing to society than a NEET citizen who does nothing but consume
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BWLurker
08/03/18 12:10:45 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
it's just a dumb liberal buzzword like problematic, triggered etc

"Problematic" is a buzzword? Take your meds, boy.
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Star_Spirit
08/03/18 12:11:28 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
it's just a dumb liberal buzzword like problematic, triggered etc

redneck
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SauI_Goodman
08/03/18 12:12:47 AM
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But not all latinos are brown.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:13:01 AM
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DavidWong posted...
tbqh, I'd rather an illegal immigrant working hard and contributing to society than a NEET citizen who does nothing but consume

Me too, but good luck passing an amendment that allows revoking citizenship from unemployed people.
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DarkTransient
08/03/18 12:13:46 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
it's just a dumb liberal buzzword like problematic, triggered etc


This, except I'd hardly say it's unique to liberals.
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Darmik
08/03/18 12:14:43 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
tl;dr: if anyone unironically accuses someone of using a ''dog whistle'', it's best to write them off as a low-information individual.


Poor Jeb
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BWLurker
08/03/18 12:14:48 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
DavidWong posted...
tbqh, I'd rather an illegal immigrant working hard and contributing to society than a NEET citizen who does nothing but consume

Me too, but good luck passing an amendment that allows revoking citizenship from unemployed people.

Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:15:41 AM
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Darmik posted...
Poor Jeb

BWLurker posted...
Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.

If Jeb is the first one then I'd be ok with it
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MabusIncarnate
08/03/18 12:17:01 AM
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I thought this was going to be about dog whistles for training dogs.
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Darmik
08/03/18 12:18:08 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Poor Jeb

BWLurker posted...
Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.

If Jeb is the first one then I'd be ok with it


Slow and steady wins the race. You'll regret those words.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:20:57 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Poor Jeb

BWLurker posted...
Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.

If Jeb is the first one then I'd be ok with it


Slow and steady wins the race. You'll regret those words.

The thing is I'm joking about this sort of thing, while your man Obama literally directed the military to bomb American citizens and you didn't give a single shit. I would say that's quite a bit worse than a rumor that Trump might remove citizenship from some dangerous people, huh?

Isn't it amazing how Obama was factually way worse than you believe Trump is?
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Darmik
08/03/18 12:22:09 AM
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My man Obama? Sorry?

It's pretty obvious my man is Jeb.
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DarkTransient
08/03/18 12:22:41 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Poor Jeb

BWLurker posted...
Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.

If Jeb is the first one then I'd be ok with it


Slow and steady wins the race. You'll regret those words.

The thing is I'm joking about this sort of thing, while your man Obama literally directed the military to bomb American citizens and you didn't give a single shit. I would say that's quite a bit worse than a rumor that Trump might remove citizenship from some dangerous people, huh?

Isn't it amazing how Obama was factually way worse than you believe Trump is?


Let's not pretend either of them is a great person in any sense of the words.
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BWLurker
08/03/18 12:23:12 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Poor Jeb

BWLurker posted...
Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.

If Jeb is the first one then I'd be ok with it


Slow and steady wins the race. You'll regret those words.

The thing is I'm joking about this sort of thing, while your man Obama literally directed the military to bomb American citizens and you didn't give a single shit. I would say that's quite a bit worse than a rumor that Trump might remove citizenship from some dangerous people, huh?

Isn't it amazing how Obama was factually way worse than you believe Trump is?


Let's not pretend either of them is a great person in any sense of the words.

Mals not with you there, he loves Trump
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:24:18 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Poor Jeb

BWLurker posted...
Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.

If Jeb is the first one then I'd be ok with it


Slow and steady wins the race. You'll regret those words.

The thing is I'm joking about this sort of thing, while your man Obama literally directed the military to bomb American citizens and you didn't give a single shit. I would say that's quite a bit worse than a rumor that Trump might remove citizenship from some dangerous people, huh?

Isn't it amazing how Obama was factually way worse than you believe Trump is?


Let's not pretend either of them is a great person in any sense of the words.

Trump isn't a nice person, but he's factually a better person than Obama.
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kingdrake2
08/03/18 12:24:27 AM
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DavidWong posted...
tbqh, I'd rather an illegal immigrant working hard and contributing to society than a NEET citizen who does nothing but consume


that's a concern, they took mah job and lowered the availability of apartments. gotta get those illegals the fuck out.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/03/18 12:24:45 AM
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I mean, that's obvious. It's just one of many ways in which people think reductively. Why bother to think critically about anything when you can just reduce everything to some simplistic understanding devoid of any nuance?
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DarkTransient
08/03/18 12:25:14 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Poor Jeb

BWLurker posted...
Your Dipshit of a leader is attempting to denaturalize citizens, pretty close.

If Jeb is the first one then I'd be ok with it


Slow and steady wins the race. You'll regret those words.

The thing is I'm joking about this sort of thing, while your man Obama literally directed the military to bomb American citizens and you didn't give a single shit. I would say that's quite a bit worse than a rumor that Trump might remove citizenship from some dangerous people, huh?

Isn't it amazing how Obama was factually way worse than you believe Trump is?


Let's not pretend either of them is a great person in any sense of the words.

Trump isn't a nice person, but he's factually a better person than Obama.


I'll agree that he's better than Obama; in the same way a log of shit on the floor is better than a puddle of diarrhoea.
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SpinKirby
08/03/18 12:25:54 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Trump isn't a nice person, but he's factually a better person than Obama.


Why?

Did Obama dronestrike your dog?


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Doom_Art
08/03/18 12:26:24 AM
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Whoa Mal is doubling down on stupid ITT
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BWLurker
08/03/18 12:26:46 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Whoa Mal is doubling down on stupid ITT

Doubling? More like quadrupling
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Hinakuluiau
08/03/18 12:27:53 AM
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Darmik
08/03/18 12:28:45 AM
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Amount of drone strikes by Jeb: 0
Amount of drone strikes by Trump and Obama: Countless

Amount of turtle figurines given out by Trump and Obama: 0
Amount of turtle figurines given out by Jeb: Countless
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SpinKirby
08/03/18 12:31:03 AM
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Darmik posted...
Amount of drone strikes by Jeb: 0
Amount of drone strikes by Trump and Obama: Countless

Amount of turtle figurines given out by Trump and Obama: 0
Amount of turtle figurines given out by Jeb: Countless


This fucking guy knows what's up.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:32:21 AM
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SpinKirby posted...
Why?

People say Trump is dangerous to the media for saying mean thing about them while Obama jailed journalist sources and government whistleblowers

People say Trump is easy on Russia even though Trump bombed Russian bases, while Obama said over a hot mic that he would allow to give Russia more "leeway" after his reelection and allowed Russia to annex Crimea, and never bombed any Russian bases.

People say Trump is a dictator even though he never killed a citizen extrajudicially, unlike Obama who directed the military to do that exact thing, and also signed multiple NDAAs allowing indefinite detention of American citizens.

See a pattern yet
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Doom_Art
08/03/18 12:33:49 AM
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Trump is pretty weak on Russia and soft on crime tbh
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SpinKirby
08/03/18 12:34:24 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Why?

People say Trump is dangerous to the media for saying mean thing about them while Obama jailed journalist sources and government whistleblowers

People say Trump is easy on Russia even though Trump bombed Russian bases, while Obama said over a hot mic that he would allow to give Russia more "leeway" after his reelection and allowed Russia to annex Crimea, and never bombed any Russian bases.

People say Trump is a dictator even though he never killed a citizen extrajudicially, unlike Obama who directed the military to do that exact thing, and also signed multiple NDAAs allowing indefinite detention of American citizens.

See a pattern yet


I don't see a pattern.

It's clear that he either dronestriked your dog, or you're heavily biased.

If anything, it would be factually after Trump has served his 8.
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ThanksUglyGod
08/03/18 12:36:04 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
SpinKirby posted...
Why?

People say Trump is dangerous to the media for saying mean thing about them while Obama jailed journalist sources and government whistleblowers

People say Trump is easy on Russia even though Trump bombed Russian bases, while Obama said over a hot mic that he would allow to give Russia more "leeway" after his reelection and allowed Russia to annex Crimea, and never bombed any Russian bases.

People say Trump is a dictator even though he never killed a citizen extrajudicially, unlike Obama who directed the military to do that exact thing, and also signed multiple NDAAs allowing indefinite detention of American citizens.

See a pattern yet

No.

I also don't see any sources.
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Antifar
08/03/18 12:36:50 AM
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Even racists are smart enough to recognize that, if the standard for being deemed a racist (and thus shunned from the discourse) is "wears a KKK uniform" or "says racial slurs," that there are ways to dance around that label, while still getting your point across to the people you want to appeal to.

Like starting your campaign by talking about "states' rights" in a city known for the murder of civil rights activists, or doing a photo op in front of black prisoners at Stone Mountain, just to give a couple examples. Those things aren't explicit, they aren't KKK membership, and yet a knowledge of context can lead one to conclude that, yeah, that's racist bullshit.

Context exists and is important.
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The23rdMagus
08/03/18 12:36:54 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
See a pattern yet

I see a pattern related to getting warned, but that doesn't seem to have an impact.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:38:46 AM
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SpinKirby posted...
I don't see a pattern.

It's clear that he either dronestriked your dog, or you're heavily biased.

If anything, it would be factually after Trump has served his 8.

So you're judging Trump based on what, your crystal ball that sees into the future?

This must be the common denominator between people who hate Trump but love Obama and people who believe in dog whistles. Both are types of people who trust their biased snap judgments about people rather than facts.
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Darmik
08/03/18 12:38:55 AM
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The pattern is that he defends Trump and attacks Obama.
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SpinKirby
08/03/18 12:40:48 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
SpinKirby posted...
I don't see a pattern.

It's clear that he either dronestriked your dog, or you're heavily biased.

If anything, it would be factually after Trump has served his 8.

So you're judging Trump based on what, your crystal ball that sees into the future?

This must be the common denominator between people who hate Trump but love Obama and people who believe in dog whistles. Both are types of people who trust their biased snap judgments about people rather than facts.


I haven't made a single comment about Trump. LOL

I mentioned not to judge Trump's 2 years vs Obama's 8 years. It's a poorly weighted comparison.

And why would I be an Obama lover if I keep bringing up his horrible dronestrike problem in jokes. It was the worst thing he ever did, IMO.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:41:20 AM
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Darmik posted...
The pattern is that he defends Trump and attacks Obama.

Yes because Obama was way worse than Trump is.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
People say Trump is dangerous to the media for saying mean thing about them while Obama jailed journalist sources and government whistleblowers

People say Trump is easy on Russia even though Trump bombed Russian bases, while Obama said over a hot mic that he would allow to give Russia more "leeway" after his reelection and allowed Russia to annex Crimea, and never bombed any Russian bases.

People say Trump is a dictator even though he never killed a citizen extrajudicially, unlike Obama who directed the military to do that exact thing, and also signed multiple NDAAs allowing indefinite detention of American citizens.


If Trump did any of the worst shit Obama did then you guys would be in front of the white house with torches and pitchforks right now.
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Darmik
08/03/18 12:42:13 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
If Trump did any of the worst shit Obama did then you guys would be in front of the white house with torches and pitchforks right now.


Will we see you there?
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Intro2Logic
08/03/18 12:43:11 AM
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I think you might know the concept better as "virtue signaling."
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:43:33 AM
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SpinKirby posted...
I haven't made a single comment about Trump. LOL

I mentioned not to judge Trump's 2 years vs Obama's 8 years. It's a poorly weighted comparison.

How about we just compare them based on the things they have done and not based on what Trump might do according to a leftist pundit with severe TDS?

It's not a given that presidents will get worse over the course of their presidency, ergo there's no reason to believe Trump will either
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Schwarber
08/03/18 12:45:55 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
If Trump did any of the worst shit Obama did then you guys would be in front of the white house with torches and pitchforks right now.


Will we see you there?


He must have been super bummed when the Unite the Right rally was cancelled this year. Poor mal.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:45:55 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
If Trump did any of the worst shit Obama did then you guys would be in front of the white house with torches and pitchforks right now.


Will we see you there?

I wasn't there when Obama did it because even then I had no illusions that Obama was a literal dictator, unlike many leftists' opinion of the much-less-bad Trump
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Fluttershy462
08/03/18 12:46:10 AM
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Milkman5 posted...
it's just a dumb liberal buzzword like problematic, triggered etc


This

Still shows the left cant take any criticism or dissension at all.
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SpinKirby
08/03/18 12:47:55 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
SpinKirby posted...
I haven't made a single comment about Trump. LOL

I mentioned not to judge Trump's 2 years vs Obama's 8 years. It's a poorly weighted comparison.

How about we just compare them based on the things they have done and not based on what Trump might do according to a leftist pundit with severe TDS?

It's not a given that presidents will get worse over the course of their presidency, ergo there's no reason to believe Trump will either


Then it'd make more sense to compare what little Obama did in his first 2 years with what Trump has currently done, but of course that wouldn't make sense for the argument. This just circles us back to not starting the direct comparison in the first place.

"It's not a given that presidents will get worse over the course of their presidency, ergo there's no reason to believe Trump will either"
I'm sure many assumed Obama wouldn't go from ok to eww, but that happened anyway.

\_()_/

On the brightside, I don't see how possibly worse Trump's twitter could get, so we can only go up from here.
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Darmik
08/03/18 12:50:04 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
If Trump did any of the worst shit Obama did then you guys would be in front of the white house with torches and pitchforks right now.


Will we see you there?

I wasn't there when Obama did it because even then I had no illusions that Obama was a literal dictator, unlike many leftists' opinion of the much-less-bad Trump


So either way you'll be criticizing Obama and defending Trump. Got it.
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Sephiroth1288
08/03/18 12:53:08 AM
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Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
If Trump did any of the worst shit Obama did then you guys would be in front of the white house with torches and pitchforks right now.


Will we see you there?

I wasn't there when Obama did it because even then I had no illusions that Obama was a literal dictator, unlike many leftists' opinion of the much-less-bad Trump


So either way you'll be criticizing Obama and defending Trump. Got it.

Yeah, because Obama was worse than Trump by most metrics.

I don't think either of them are dictators by a long shot. If you put their deeds up on a balance sheet though, then Obama comes out looking way worse than Trump does. That's all.
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08/03/18 12:54:39 AM
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Its funny because if Trump ordered the drone bombing of a terrorist leader who renounced his American citizenship then Mal would be defending it.
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