Current Events > Ask yourself this, have I learned anything new from the Mueller probe

(+) Yeah! (+)

Most likely the answer is no and yet Trump is nowhere near closer to being impeached.

Why is that?
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Uh, if that's your bar, we've actually learned a ton from the Mueller probe. Also Trump is acting like a wild animal backed into a corner.

What new information has come out?

And when has Trump not been aggressive when accused of something?
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newtonwuzvirgin posted...

Why is that?

Because the hypothetical person in question is not paying attention to the information that has been released to the public domain, and is in complete denial; and/or the person in question was a test-subject for the medical practice of lobotomy some decades ago and lost 50% or more of his hypothetical grey matter.
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But the answer is yes.
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newtonwuzvirgin posted...

What new information has come out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017-present)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017-present)#Alleged_collusion_between_Trump_campaign_and_Russian_agents
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We really need to raise the user-level here.

We knew about that meeting already, just not what was talked about and Trump's involvement.
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newtonwuzvirgin posted...

We knew about that meeting already, just not what was talked about and Trump's involvement.

newtonwuzvirgin posted...

have I learned anything new from the Mueller probe
Most likely the answer is no

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150113090458.htm
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And we still don't know, how can they testify on what Trump knew or didn't?

Has the topic of discussion came out yet? Have they said they asked Russia to have the election at that meeting? No.

It will basically come down to, hey you work for Trump's campaign? Yeah I do. Oh cool.

That is the huge collusion discussed at that meeting.
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Darkman124 doing God's work.
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Conflict posted...

Is TC that ChessInFiveD guy

Hes a Hoth alt
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__aCEr__ posted...

We really need to raise the user-level here.

Absolutely.
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Not since the last round of indictments a couple weeks ago. People speculate that the only reason Cohen was able to leak those tapes last week was because the Mueller investigation not only had that information but had also followed those leads to exhaustion. So Cohen probably isn't actually giving anything away by releasing audio from one of the tapes. Bare in mind that this is all speculation.

What isn't speculation is that there's now evidence heavily linking the attendants of the Trump tower meeting in a conspiracy to receive aid from a foreign power during an election, to receive stolen documents, and to aid and abet in the theft of those documents because they didn't report the theft to the FBI. Giuliani even brought up a strategy meeting which took place in preparation for that meeting during his whirlwind interviews on Monday, demonstrating or at least strongly implying intent.

Was the Mueller investigation aware of all this prior to this Monday? Mostly likely, because Cohen would have told them. The fact that meeting happened is old news; there's no reason to conceal that. Was he aware of the strategy meeting that took place prior to the publicized meeting? Who knows.

There's not much to say about the Mueller probe beyond the fact that seems like a holistic and thorough survey of the Trump Campaign's organization during 2015-2016. And that it seems to be moving from the outside, inwards. Also, it somehow doesn't have any of the leaking problems present in the rest of the administration. Either he runs an extremely tight ship, or he's staffed a bunch of true believers. That latter situation could be worrying, because who are those employees loyal to? The charge of the agency, Mueller, or their investigation?
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I'd accuse TC of backpedalling, but quite frankly he hasn't proven he learned how to ride a bicycle.
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All I'm saying is there will be no bombshell. We know everything that happened and the burden of proof is on the state. Prove Trump ordered Russian collusion or knew of it.

You won't.
You can't.
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TC, if there is a bombshell, I promise that I will not mock you over these statements of yours.

Because I will have completely forgotten them.

You are truly that unmemorable.
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Darkman124 posted...

newtonwuzvirgin posted...

Why is that?

Because the hypothetical person in question is not paying attention to the information that has been released to the public domain, and is in complete denial; and/or the person in question was a test-subject for the medical practice of lobotomy some decades ago and lost 50% or more of his hypothetical grey matter.

That's pretty savage. Darkman really on his game lately.
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Lost me frontal lobe mate
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There's an anal probe joke in that topic title somewhere.

Alien overlords talking about their most recent probe victim.
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Conflict posted...

E32005 posted...

Conflict posted...

Is TC that ChessInFiveD guy

Hes a Hoth alt

So that's a yes then

Yes
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I learned that Trump supporters are even more cult like than I thought.
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newtonwuzvirgin posted...

All I'm saying is there will be no bombshell. We know everything that happened and the burden of proof is on the state. Prove Trump ordered Russian collusion or knew of it.

You won't.
You can't.

TC, how are you positive that it won't be proved?

__aCEr__ posted...

We really need to raise the user-level here.

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Ruvan22 posted...

newtonwuzvirgin posted...

All I'm saying is there will be no bombshell. We know everything that happened and the burden of proof is on the state. Prove Trump ordered Russian collusion or knew of it.

You won't.
You can't.

TC, how are you positive that it won't be proved?

100% positive
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If it was true it would have came out, but since all Mueller is gathering is a bunch of weak circumstantial evidence he is tip toeing and trying to stretch out his 15 minutes of fame as long as possible.
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Jesus, never thought I'd see the day when Darkman just murdered some kill. Ring the damn bell!
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newtonwuzvirgin posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

newtonwuzvirgin posted...

All I'm saying is there will be no bombshell. We know everything that happened and the burden of proof is on the state. Prove Trump ordered Russian collusion or knew of it.

You won't.
You can't.

TC, how are you positive that it won't be proved?

100% positive

No, I'm asking HOW are you positive. Given that investigations like these usually DO take more than a year.

> 35 indictments
> 5 guilty pleas

or

> No new information
> because I don't understand how federal investigations work.

Choose one.
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Hexenherz posted...

> 35 indictments
> 5 guilty pleas

or

> No new information
> because I don't understand how federal investigations work.

Choose one.

hoth alts dont respond to facts
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People act like they know all about federal investigations.

But Watergate but Watergate but Watergate

But nothing. One instance doesn't establish a pattern. There has been nothingburger after nothingburger.
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5 karma
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

5 karma

newtonwuzvirgin posted...

People act like they know all about federal investigations.

But Watergate but Watergate but Watergate

But nothing. One instance doesn't establish a pattern. There has been nothingburger after nothingburger.

So two things

1) Posters above have shown at least five instances.. how many do you believe you need for a pattern to keep looking?
2) You said you were 100% confident nothing would be found - I've asked you to explain your confidence (since I assume you are trying to convince us). What evidence do you have that nothing will be found?

I learned that Paul Manafort spent $15,000 of laundered foreign money on an ostrich jacket.
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Antifar posted...

I learned that Paul Manafort spent $15,000 of laundered foreign money on an ostrich jacket.

Also learned things about Manaforts sex life that I was happier not knowing. What kind of depraved fuck forces his wife to have sex with other men while he watches. Cuck rape. Wtf?

Ruvan22 posted...

newtonwuzvirgin posted...

People act like they know all about federal investigations.

But Watergate but Watergate but Watergate

But nothing. One instance doesn't establish a pattern. There has been nothingburger after nothingburger.

So two things

1) Posters above have shown at least five instances.. how many do you believe you need for a pattern to keep looking?
2) You said you were 100% confident nothing would be found - I've asked you to explain your confidence (since I assume you are trying to convince us). What evidence do you have that nothing will be found?

The duration and the fact that nothing new has came out. There most damning thing Mueller has is Stormy Daniels.
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Mueller doesn't talk to the press. Why would anyone leading an investigation show their hand before all the pieces are in place?
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CyricZ posted...

I'd accuse TC of backpedalling, but quite frankly he hasn't proven he learned how to ride a bicycle.

I bet he can ride his bike with no handlebars (no handlebars)
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https://www.newsweek.com/mueller-charge-trump-conspiring-russia-1052252
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It's pretty clear that the whole "Russia Investigation" is just damage control from Clinton losing.

LOL @ people who believe it

Personally, I haven't gotten over pulling out of the Paris Accord/Iran Deal/moving embassy/kids in cages/Playboygirl/Pornstargirl/NFL/my tax cut/TPP/Keystone/low unemployment/GROCERIES to have any more energy being outraged about Donald Trump being the sneakiest politician of all time and colluding with the Russians to get elected.

So sneaky that our intelligence agencies can't find a thing!
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newtonwuzvirgin posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

newtonwuzvirgin posted...

People act like they know all about federal investigations.

But Watergate but Watergate but Watergate

But nothing. One instance doesn't establish a pattern. There has been nothingburger after nothingburger.

So two things

1) Posters above have shown at least five instances.. how many do you believe you need for a pattern to keep looking?
2) You said you were 100% confident nothing would be found - I've asked you to explain your confidence (since I assume you are trying to convince us). What evidence do you have that nothing will be found?

The duration and the fact that nothing new has came out. There most damning thing Mueller has is Stormy Daniels.

Ok so you want us to believe the same thing? That we should go ahead and rule that nothing further has come from it (despite the things posted above)? If so, maybe you could define how all of them are "nothing new" to start.

Uncle Choad posted...

It's pretty clear that the whole "Russia Investigation" is just damage control from Clinton losing.

LOL @ people who believe it

Personally, I haven't gotten over pulling out of the Paris Accord/Iran Deal/moving embassy/kids in cages/Playboygirl/Pornstargirl/NFL/my tax cut/TPP/Keystone/low unemployment/GROCERIES to have any more energy being outraged about Donald Trump being the sneakiest politician of all time and colluding with the Russians to get elected.

So sneaky that our intelligence agencies can't find a thing!

The intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered with the election. (The only one that denies this conclusion, incidentally, is Trump.) The only thing yet to be determined is who helped and who was complicit.
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