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LIsJustice
07/31/18 9:12:17 AM
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/xmen-and-diversity.58952/
What do you think CE??
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PoopPotato
07/31/18 9:14:56 AM
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Xmen is probably the most diverse thing ever.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/31/18 9:23:32 AM
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LIsJustice posted...
What do you think CE??


Diversity quotas are never good for the artistic integrity of a work.
Whiny idiot says something on internet.
Gross misuse of the word, "needs".
And look at all the flop Marvel shows; Cloak and Dagger, Legion, Runaways, Inhumans, the Gifted . . . letting SJW bloggers dictate priorities isn't the key to success.
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The23rdMagus
07/31/18 9:24:40 AM
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They are diversity. They literally exist as an allegory for diversity in a society that hates and fears them. Just get a good selection of 'em, maybe snag a few from X-Force and X-Factor, and we're good.

Could appeal to a lot of 90s kids that grew up on the animated series by having Jubilee as more than a cameo, for instance...
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Renault
07/31/18 9:25:57 AM
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about time

you don't know how long i've been waiting for reseteras take on some lame superhero series
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EndOfDiscOne
07/31/18 9:29:03 AM
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Reset Era says


Stopped reading
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Were_Wyrm
07/31/18 9:29:07 AM
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Needs more human heroes, why do all the heroes have to be mutants?
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SSJGrimReaper
07/31/18 9:29:57 AM
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who the hell is reset era
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BMXJouster
07/31/18 9:46:18 AM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
who the hell is reset era

Remember NeoGAF and how it used be full of people constantly screeching about sexism/misogyny/racism in games and media, and anyone who disagreed with them would get shut down and/or banned? Those people broke off from NeoGAF during that whole debacle with the owner and founded Resetera.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
07/31/18 9:51:46 AM
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Imagine being so fucking stupid that you know who the X-Men are and follow that up by saying they need to be diverse. They are the fucking bastion of diversity in Marvel. They got gay Iceman love, every color skin under the sun including chrome, minority representation, the works.
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l Dudeboy l
07/31/18 9:55:04 AM
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Reset Era is a fucking shit website that blocks any conversation that goes against their perpetual victim agenda.
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A_Good_Boy
07/31/18 9:57:47 AM
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Xmen has white people, black people, men, women, Asians, straights, homosexuals, the handicap, fur people, blue people, and everything in between. What else do they require in terms of diversity?
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Skye Reynolds
07/31/18 10:03:11 AM
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This is Rogue:

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I don't care if she's black or white or Asian or Latina. I just want her to look like that.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
07/31/18 10:17:11 AM
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ResetEra would be dumb enough to say the diverse group needs to be diverse.
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FrozenSneak
07/31/18 10:19:26 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
This is Rogue:

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I don't care if she's black or white or Asian or Latina. I just want her to look like that.


Resetera would claim this is sexist.
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Questionmarktarius
07/31/18 10:20:23 AM
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PoopPotato posted...
Xmen is probably the most diverse thing ever.

So was MASK (or, about as well as awkward 80s 'diversity' could be), but that didn't stop the diversity police from somehow making it less diverse, while the villains were still pretty much entirely white guys.
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AlisLandale
07/31/18 10:21:20 AM
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So in the actual thread they're discussing diversity in the inevitable introduction of X-Men into the MCU. Which is a fair discussion.

I don't have any problem with having a diverse X-Men cast so long as they actually utilize the X-Mens existing diversity.

MCU turned "literally who" characters like Iron Man and Thor into household names, it would be incredibly lazy if they just made, say, Professor X into a Black man.
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Were_Wyrm
07/31/18 10:22:34 AM
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Maybe the X-Men aren't reaching their cis white male quota?
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AvlButtslam
07/31/18 10:23:51 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
And look at all the flop Marvel shows; Legion

I could have agreed with you until you said this, now I have to discard your whole post
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bige85
07/31/18 10:27:27 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Reset Era is a fucking shit website that blocks any conversation that goes against their perpetual victim agenda.

Fucking this. Let continues to ignore that awful site.
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TheoryzC
07/31/18 10:34:02 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
So in the actual thread they're discussing diversity in the inevitable introduction of X-Men into the MCU. Which is a fair discussion.

I don't have any problem with having a diverse X-Men cast so long as they actually utilize the X-Mens existing diversity.

MCU turned "literally who" characters like Iron Man and Thor into household names, it would be incredibly lazy if they just made, say, Professor X into a Black man.

Yea. Reading this topic you'd think they were talking about the X-Men in general instead of MCU X-Men
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pauIie
07/31/18 10:37:12 AM
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LIsJustice posted...
What do you think CE??


I think CE has a weird obsession with Reset Era, and previously Neo GAF.
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Rimmer_Dall
07/31/18 10:45:58 AM
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The most fun thing about REEEsetEra is looking through their mod logs. Specifically the bans.
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Gheb
07/31/18 10:59:17 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Cloak and Dagger, Legion, Runaways, Inhumans, the Gifted . . . letting SJW bloggers dictate priorities isn't the key to success.


I'm a bit confused here. With the exception of having Molly in Runaways be Hispanic and Blink in the Gifted be Asian, all these other shows have mostly cast all their characters with the same race as their comic counter-parts. Where is the diversity quota here?

Furthermore, C&D has been a been a straight success for Freeform and does decently critically. Runaways is a complete mess of a show but that was all writing and plotting, nothing to do with the casting. The Gifted has performed decently for Fox, but even if it didn't its casting is almost entirely comic accurate.

Inhumans wasn't even particularly diverse in any respect and it's failure was entirely on the production side. Legion is also not particularly diverse so any flopping (it's a critical darling) is driven by it being weird as shit not because of diversity quotas.
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Smashingpmkns
07/31/18 11:01:20 AM
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The whole point of the Xmen was diversity so they're kinda right.
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Gheb
07/31/18 11:08:59 AM
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As far as the subject of making the X-Men more diverse goes. I personally don't care. But I can see where some concern would be especially if Marvel wants to start from the basics.

X-Men are definitely one of the most diverse teams in comics with characters from a whole range of cultures, countries, and ethnicities. But the original team of Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Jean Grey, and Angel is all white. Fighting mostly white villains. It really wasn't until Giant-Sized X-Men where the actual diversity started to increase. So yeah, if Marvel wants to stick to the classic team of X-Men, they are going to have a very white movie. Again, if that's the case, I don't really care, but by the same token if they put out the casting call for the characters and none of them are race-restricted, I also don't care. It's not that big a deal.
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LordMarshal
07/31/18 11:11:47 AM
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I guess power rangers is ahead of its time.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/31/18 11:15:02 AM
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Gheb posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Cloak and Dagger, Legion, Runaways, Inhumans, the Gifted . . . letting SJW bloggers dictate priorities isn't the key to success.


I'm a bit confused here. With the exception of having Molly in Runaways be Hispanic and Blink in the Gifted be Asian, all these other shows have mostly cast all their characters with the same race as their comic counter-parts. Where is the diversity quota here?

Furthermore, C&D has been a been a straight success for Freeform and does decently critically. Runaways is a complete mess of a show but that was all writing and plotting, nothing to do with the casting. The Gifted has performed decently for Fox, but even if it didn't its casting is almost entirely comic accurate.

Inhumans wasn't even particularly diverse in any respect and it's failure was entirely on the production side. Legion is also not particularly diverse so any flopping (it's a critical darling) is driven by it being weird as shit not because of diversity quotas.


I'll be honest here, I haven't really watched those, I just assumed they were flopping and only gave them a cursory glance. They just didn't look any good and I made some unfair, unfounded assumptions.
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Questionmarktarius
07/31/18 11:15:43 AM
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Gheb posted...
Blink in the Gifted be Asian

Blink wasn't asian?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/31/18 11:19:37 AM
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Gheb posted...
As far as the subject of making the X-Men more diverse goes. I personally don't care. But I can see where some concern would be especially if Marvel wants to start from the basics.

X-Men are definitely one of the most diverse teams in comics with characters from a whole range of cultures, countries, and ethnicities. But the original team of Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Jean Grey, and Angel is all white. Fighting mostly white villains. It really wasn't until Giant-Sized X-Men where the actual diversity started to increase. So yeah, if Marvel wants to stick to the classic team of X-Men, they are going to have a very white movie. Again, if that's the case, I don't really care, but by the same token if they put out the casting call for the characters and none of them are race-restricted, I also don't care. It's not that big a deal.


There is diversity among whites. :\
Frankly, a rotating roaster movie to movie would be good for the franchise if they move it to the MCU. Give D listers more exposure, shoehorn more characters and craziness into it.

Swap Jean out for anyone and I'll consider it a success.
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Questionmarktarius
07/31/18 11:21:29 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Swap Jean out for anyone and I'll consider it a success.

Doesn't Polaris have a history of being even crazier than Jean? Certainly did in the 90s anyway.
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Gheb
07/31/18 11:50:15 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I'll be honest here, I haven't really watched those, I just assumed they were flopping and only gave them a cursory glance. They just didn't look any good and I made some unfair, unfounded assumptions.


C&D is actually pretty good, though it starts slow.
Gifted is a fun enough watch, it is kind of uneven though.
Legion is the most visually impressive show on television. I will say sometimes it can get a little too weird for its own good, but it's still a blast to see.
Runaways is well-casted and has all the pieces of a good show, but the showrunners either are unable or unwilling to actually take those pieces and make a good show. It's pacing is absolutely abysmal and it's characters are idiots, but you still get flashes of what a good Runaways show could be.
Inhumans is straight garbo.

Questionmarktarius posted...
Gheb posted...
Blink in the Gifted be Asian

Blink wasn't asian?

Nope. Clarice Ferguson was not Asian. Of course her mutation pretty radically altered her appearance so her race is largely obscured, so nobody ever thought of her as white.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
There is diversity among whites. :\

I know that, but since when does the various white heritages of any of the original X-Men come to play? They have always been portrayed as generically white. Warren is the closest thing to being not generic white because everything about the name Warren Worthington III says old family money, which speaks to some of his heritage.
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creativerealms
07/31/18 11:57:33 AM
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X-Men as a comic only became popular when it was rebooted with a diverse cast. What's the problem?
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Awesome
07/31/18 12:52:42 PM
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XD at post #7 in that topic, dude knows the site is a cult and full of clowns
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FL81
07/31/18 1:10:48 PM
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GameFAQs mods actually aren't all that bad when you compare it to places like ResetEra
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