Current Events > -Pay for game, still have to pay more to feasibly get cosmetics

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Unacceptable practice
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i can't find anyone that actually looks good wearing the merchant costume
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People defend it, I don't get it
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Forlorn_Ass posted...

People defend it, I don't get it

What's not to get? Cosmetics aren't necessary to enjoy the game as it's designed.
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I love people that waste money on cosmetics. It allows me to free-ride on new content in games like Rainbow 6 Siege.
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Remember when cosmetics were free unlockables?
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Let's be real here, you can pay $60 for a game and $20 for cosmetics if you want them, or you can pay $80 for a game and cosmetics you probably don't want.
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Remember when games had secrets and cheat codes?
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I think most people who play those games have an understanding that continuing to spend money on the game is what keeps the game running for the long term. It's not a one and done sale, people expect these types of games to get continued support and new content for years
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DevsBro posted...

Let's be real here, you can pay $60 for a game and $20 for cosmetics if you want them, or you can pay $80 for a game and cosmetics you probably don't want.

Yep, which is why I don't mind the current set up (at least the way games like Overwatch and R6 Siege do it)
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eston posted...

I think most people who play those games have an understanding that continuing to spend money on the game is what keeps the game running for the long term. It's not a one and done sale, people expect these types of games to get continued support and new content for years

Vast majority of the time I see someone buying a cosmetic, it's because "it looks cool". The thought of "this purchase will help fund new future content" probably rarely enters their mind. I even had to explain that to a guy a few weeks ago who has bought almost every elite skin in R6 Siege. I could tell he had never really realized that his purchase was the reason future content was free for guys like me.
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l Dudeboy l posted...

Remember when cosmetics were free unlockables?

Tales of Symphonia
"Yes, I'll need to play through like 4 times to get everyone their formal outfit but worth it? Probably."
Tales of the Abyss
"I had to follow a guide to not miss a step in this tedious side quest where 80% is done by backtracking from point A and B and C twice, but Guy's flight suit outfit is great looking."
Tales of Hesperia
"Well, the outfits are pretty much just from mini games but they're not bad."

Then graces f
"You get like 2 costumes per character if you can do that one mini game perfect, plus one from the extra chapter of the game. Gotta buy the rest and they don't even have any combat bonuses unlike all the in-game titles that grant outfits."
Xillia
"The main characters get 2 outfits, everyone else has their default. Hope you're ready to shell out money for these entire outfit sets where you only wanted the one or two."
Zestiria at least had the Eva crossover skins that made it to the west.
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People talk like DLC is this evil practice whereby the base game gets jypped but really I've yet to see a series where the entries before DLC had more content than the base games after DLC. I think Sims 4 didn't have swimming pools or something but that's all I got.
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gunplagirl posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

Remember when cosmetics were free unlockables?

Tales of Symphonia
"Yes, I'll need to play through like 4 times to get everyone their formal outfit but worth it? Probably."
Tales of the Abyss
"I had to follow a guide to not miss a step in this tedious side quest where 80% is done by backtracking from point A and B and C twice, but Guy's flight suit outfit is great looking."
Tales of Hesperia
"Well, the outfits are pretty much just from mini games but they're not bad."

Then graces f
"You get like 2 costumes per character if you can do that one mini game perfect, plus one from the extra chapter of the game. Gotta buy the rest and they don't even have any combat bonuses unlike all the in-game titles that grant outfits."
Xillia
"The main characters get 2 outfits, everyone else has their default. Hope you're ready to shell out money for these entire outfit sets where you only wanted the one or two."
Zestiria at least had the Eva crossover skins that made it to the west.

Oh no a single franchise, I guess that discredits every other video game that gave away cosmetics for free and with the game.
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darkjedilink posted...

Forlorn_Ass posted...

People defend it, I don't get it

What's not to get? Cosmetics aren't necessary to enjoy the game as it's designed.

I generally just mash A through the character creator and play as 'default guy'.

Who here bought the Horse Armor?

Anybody?
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Buying cosmetics is one thing, gambling for them is another.

As such, I've yet to drop money on any game with loot boxes.
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darkjedilink posted...

Forlorn_Ass posted...

People defend it, I don't get it

What's not to get? Cosmetics aren't necessary to enjoy the game as it's designed.

Before you were born, when you spent $80 on a game it included everything.
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Forlorn_Ass posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Forlorn_Ass posted...

People defend it, I don't get it

What's not to get? Cosmetics aren't necessary to enjoy the game as it's designed.

Before you were born, when you spent $80 on a game it included everything.

All 1 costumes
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I'm such a sucker for skins, i should NOt be spending my money on video game cosmetics
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My attitude with games is simple. If it's available at launch, it should be included as part of the purchase price, almost no exceptions. That includes things you have locked away on disc for a future "D"LC or things obviously removed from the game to sell later. I do understand that the common production method is to have artists still on staff designing new gear between when the game is "finished" and when the game is released, but those should be things that are available to either unlock or buy in my book.

Down the road, if you want to add things be that cosmetic or otherwise, that's fine to charge for provided that it's not something that becomes essentially required to play the game to a reasonable degree. You bought the game as was, it doesn't mean you bought the game as was plus whatever they add at a later date for free. Most games, I don't care. Some games, I buy some DLC. For no games do I buy cosmetics, but if people want to waste money on that whatever.

And if you buy a season pass, that has to cover absolutely everything.

And as others have said, complaining about free to play games is pretty dumb regardless. Don't like it? It cost you nothing and you can stop any time.
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l Dudeboy l posted...

gunplagirl posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

Remember when cosmetics were free unlockables?

Tales of Symphonia
"Yes, I'll need to play through like 4 times to get everyone their formal outfit but worth it? Probably."
Tales of the Abyss
"I had to follow a guide to not miss a step in this tedious side quest where 80% is done by backtracking from point A and B and C twice, but Guy's flight suit outfit is great looking."
Tales of Hesperia
"Well, the outfits are pretty much just from mini games but they're not bad."

Then graces f
"You get like 2 costumes per character if you can do that one mini game perfect, plus one from the extra chapter of the game. Gotta buy the rest and they don't even have any combat bonuses unlike all the in-game titles that grant outfits."
Xillia
"The main characters get 2 outfits, everyone else has their default. Hope you're ready to shell out money for these entire outfit sets where you only wanted the one or two."
Zestiria at least had the Eva crossover skins that made it to the west.

Oh no a single franchise, I guess that discredits every other video game that gave away cosmetics for free and with the game.

Shut the fuck up

They stopped providing them as unlockables and now it's all only unlockable via cash, which is what you fucking said and I fucking agreed with you. At least swap accounts before trying to troll with that shit.
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gunplagirl posted...

Shut the fuck up

They stopped providing them as unlockables and now it's all only unlockable via cash, which is what you fucking said and I fucking agreed with you. At least swap accounts before trying to troll with that shit.

Ew, I don't think I want someone as psychotic as you agreeing with me.
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Twin3Turbo posted...

eston posted...

I think most people who play those games have an understanding that continuing to spend money on the game is what keeps the game running for the long term. It's not a one and done sale, people expect these types of games to get continued support and new content for years

Vast majority of the time I see someone buying a cosmetic, it's because "it looks cool". The thought of "this purchase will help fund new future content" probably rarely enters their mind. I even had to explain that to a guy a few weeks ago who has bought almost every elite skin in R6 Siege. I could tell he had never really realized that his purchase was the reason future content was free for guys like me.

Well yeah, obviously they are buying things because they think they're cool, but what I'm saying is people don't see a big deal with buying extra things that don't do anything other than look cool because they understand how it affects the ecosystem as a whole. Those types of MP-centric games kinda need a steady revenue
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