Poll of the Day > Star Wars Author would block any mara jade movie cameo

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NightMareBunny
07/25/18 9:26:00 PM
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Questionmarktarius
07/26/18 12:53:42 AM
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It doesn't matter anyway. Disney would just create an "OC do not steal" who ends up doing pretty much the same things.
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Zeus
07/26/18 1:48:22 AM
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Given that he wants more than just a cameo, I guess it makes sense?

idk, Mara was definitely one of my huge wants from the sequel trilogy which, so far, has been perhaps more disappointing than the prequel trilogy (although I enjoyed the parts of TLJ *not* featuring Finn & Rose, whose pointless, nonsensical sidequest made TPM's pod race look good)
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Lil69Leo
07/26/18 2:22:07 AM
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Considering Disney own all the rights to every character including Mara Jade that's pretty funny. He can't block them. He created them for Lucas, who sold all the rights to Disney.
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Unbridled9
07/26/18 2:59:06 AM
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Zeus posted...
Given that he wants more than just a cameo, I guess it makes sense?

idk, Mara was definitely one of my huge wants from the sequel trilogy which, so far, has been perhaps more disappointing than the prequel trilogy (although I enjoyed the parts of TLJ *not* featuring Finn & Rose, whose pointless, nonsensical sidequest made TPM's pod race look good)


Least the pod race was constant action. Pointless, sure. Boring? Not really.
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Zeus
07/26/18 3:00:46 AM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Considering Disney own all the rights to every character including Mara Jade that's pretty funny. He can't block them. He created them for Lucas, who sold all the rights to Disney.


Unless it was strictly work-for-hire (which often isn't the case with authors), that's not really how it works.

Unbridled9 posted...
Zeus posted...
Given that he wants more than just a cameo, I guess it makes sense?

idk, Mara was definitely one of my huge wants from the sequel trilogy which, so far, has been perhaps more disappointing than the prequel trilogy (although I enjoyed the parts of TLJ *not* featuring Finn & Rose, whose pointless, nonsensical sidequest made TPM's pod race look good)


Least the pod race was constant action. Pointless, sure. Boring? Not really.


True that.
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rogerskg1979
07/26/18 8:20:14 AM
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Zeus posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
Considering Disney own all the rights to every character including Mara Jade that's pretty funny. He can't block them. He created them for Lucas, who sold all the rights to Disney.


Unless it was strictly work-for-hire (which often isn't the case with authors), that's not really how it works.


For a mega-franchise like Star Wars, I can't imagine any of the authors having rights to the characters they create. That likely only happens with authors of non-franchises.

Mara Jade has been written in a ton of books that weren't written by Timothy Zahn. I seriously doubt Zahn had to give his approval to each author beforehand.

Heck, Thrawn has been used in the Rebels TV series, and Thrawn is another Zahn creation. I doubt Zahn had to give his approval for Thrawn in Rebels either.

If Disney wants to write a story where Chewbacca rapes Mara Jade in the ass, they can do it, and I seriously doubt Zahn has any power to stop them from doing it.
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_AdjI_
07/26/18 8:53:50 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Zeus posted...
Given that he wants more than just a cameo, I guess it makes sense?

idk, Mara was definitely one of my huge wants from the sequel trilogy which, so far, has been perhaps more disappointing than the prequel trilogy (although I enjoyed the parts of TLJ *not* featuring Finn & Rose, whose pointless, nonsensical sidequest made TPM's pod race look good)


Least the pod race was constant action. Pointless, sure. Boring? Not really.


There's an argument to be made that it was the best part of Episode 1, pointless though it was. It spawned a great spinoff game, too.
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AllstarSniper32
07/26/18 9:58:04 AM
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If I was Disney I would have there be a cameo of Mara Jade.

She would pronounce her name wrong.

She'd be a pacifist.

And she'd be a Gungan.
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ernieforss
07/26/18 11:40:27 AM
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Zahn can sue and tie her up in a lawsuit for years. He can claim that he has the rights to her since he invented her.
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papercup
07/26/18 11:50:52 AM
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Literally who?
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STLCards1991
07/26/18 12:08:36 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It doesn't matter anyway. Disney would just create an "OC do not steal" who ends up doing pretty much the same things.
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What the fuck how is Cassian Andor a Kyle Katarn clone lol
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Grendel
07/26/18 12:11:48 PM
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That chick from Mysteries of the Sith? Who cares.
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Blighboy
07/26/18 12:21:12 PM
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papercup posted...
Literally who?

Zahn basically created the old Star Wars EU

Mara was his self insert he shipped with Luke
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Revelation34
07/26/18 1:34:09 PM
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ernieforss posted...
Zahn can sue and tie her up in a lawsuit for years. He can claim that he has the rights to her since he invented her.


That doesn't work if you create that work for somebody else's creation.
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Unbridled9
07/26/18 4:00:32 PM
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Blighboy posted...
papercup posted...
Literally who?

Zahn basically created the old Star Wars EU

Mara was his self insert he shipped with Luke


She got very popular though. Married Luke and everything. I remember playing her/Imperial campaign in Galactic Battlegrounds. I so wish that title got some... better... work and updates. Course now EA would probably just buy it then release a crappy PtW mobile game in which you have to shell out $4.99 to play as anyone who isn't the Rebel Alliance and can get 10,000 of all resources for $0.99.
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Nichtcrawler X
07/26/18 4:02:48 PM
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Considering he got very lucky with the current treatment of Thrawn, should he really test Disney like that?
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ernieforss
07/26/18 5:15:20 PM
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@Revelation34

So why isn't Skullomania owned by Arika even though he first appeared in Street Fighter EX. Hell most of the Street Fighter EX characters are owned by Arika even though they were created for somebody else's creation.
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Zeus
07/26/18 6:37:01 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Unbridled9 posted...
Zeus posted...
Given that he wants more than just a cameo, I guess it makes sense?

idk, Mara was definitely one of my huge wants from the sequel trilogy which, so far, has been perhaps more disappointing than the prequel trilogy (although I enjoyed the parts of TLJ *not* featuring Finn & Rose, whose pointless, nonsensical sidequest made TPM's pod race look good)


Least the pod race was constant action. Pointless, sure. Boring? Not really.


There's an argument to be made that it was the best part of Episode 1, pointless though it was. It spawned a great spinoff game, too.


tbh, that N64 game was probably the best thing to come from TPM. (Although I guess it also gave us Darth Maul as a character, which meant that he could later appear in the Clone Wars cartoon.)

Blighboy posted...
Mara was his self insert he shipped with Luke


No, just no.
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Blighboy
07/26/18 7:55:32 PM
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Zeus posted...
No, just no.

Sorry, Luuke.
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Revelation34
07/27/18 3:08:23 AM
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ernieforss posted...
@Revelation34

So why isn't Skullomania owned by Arika even though he first appeared in Street Fighter EX. Hell most of the Street Fighter EX characters are owned by Arika even though they were created for somebody else's creation.


Because Japan doesn't have the same copyright laws that America does.
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Zeus
07/27/18 3:20:25 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
ernieforss posted...
Zahn can sue and tie her up in a lawsuit for years. He can claim that he has the rights to her since he invented her.


That doesn't work if you create that work for somebody else's creation.


Again, unless it was specifically work-for-hire, that's not even close to being true. Case-in-point would be Neil Gaimon's long-stand lawsuit with Todd McFarlane

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/spawn-comic-book-todd-mcfarlane-neil-gaiman-286071

Blighboy posted...
Zeus posted...
No, just no.

Sorry, Luuke.


Your claim is patented lunacy. And I'm not even sure where you found a patent for that.
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Lil69Leo
07/27/18 5:07:02 AM
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ernieforss posted...
@Revelation34

So why isn't Skullomania owned by Arika even though he first appeared in Street Fighter EX. Hell most of the Street Fighter EX characters are owned by Arika even though they were created for somebody else's creation.


Akira probably kept the rights.
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I_Abibde
07/27/18 6:09:35 AM
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Skullomania also turned up as one of the free characters in Fighter Maker, IIRC.

That being said, I understand why Tim Zahn is being protective here, considering that other authors in the Expanded Universe screwed him over by killing off Mara Jade towards the end of the EU.
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WarGreymon77
07/28/18 6:25:33 AM
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There's no point. Disney Luke never got married and never had kids.
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Revelation34
07/28/18 3:27:57 PM
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WarGreymon77 posted...
There's no point. Disney Luke never got married and never had kids.


Disney Luke sucks.
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WarGreymon77
07/28/18 3:50:59 PM
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^ Agreed!
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Nichtcrawler X
07/28/18 3:53:59 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Disney Luke sucks.


Legends Luke also had some bad-ass friends.

Or better put, a whole Jedi Order of bad-asses.
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