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I Like Toast 07/25/18 4:29:04 PM #52: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
you're citing the maximum penalty and then acting like it's the mandatory minimum We gunna pretend that it matters when it's the server getting punished not owner/restaurant? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 07/25/18 4:33:14 PM #53: |
Look at these liberals think of the environment. Haha fucking liberals!
Jesus, when did all of the posters here with a conservative viewpoint become a complete joke? I mean, people like AssTank are still level-headed, but people like him are becoming rarer and rarer. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MattSFfrd 07/25/18 4:33:15 PM #54: |
VandorLee posted...
LightHawKnight posted...VandorLee posted...Id be planting straws in other kids backpacks in high school and calling the police to bust em because with stupid fucking laws like this, stupid shit like this can happen. this would be a fascinating court battle --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wasssup Now 07/25/18 4:36:26 PM #55: |
XxKrazyChaosxX posted...
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bover_87 07/25/18 4:39:27 PM #56: |
VandorLee posted...
bover_87 posted...VandorLee posted...Id be planting straws in other kids backpacks in high school and calling the police to bust em because with stupid fucking laws like this, stupid shit like this can happen. The entire point is that establishments can't have them. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mattnd2007 07/25/18 4:41:05 PM #57: |
I'm an environmentalist. I think we need to be good stewards of the earth. But that is fucking absurd. It should be information based. Not punitive based. Or hell incentivize it. Don't use straws and your business gets some minor tax incentive or something.
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theAteam 07/25/18 5:07:01 PM #58: |
No one is getting jail time for this. That's just the maximum penalty for any misdemeanor in Santa Barbara.
9.165.060 Penalties and enforcement. Violations of this chapter shall be enforced as follows: A. For the first violation, upon a determination that a violation of this chapter has occurred, city shall issue a written warning notice to the beverage provider or food provider which will specify the violation and the appropriate penalties in the event of future violations. B. Thereafter, any person violating or failing to comply with any of the requirements of this chapter shall be subject to remedies specified pursuant to Chapters 1.25 and 1.28 of this code. 1.28.020 Penalty for Misdemeanor. Unless otherwise specified in this Code, a misdemeanor is punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), imprisonment for a term not exceeding six (6) months, or by both such fine and imprisonment. (Ord. 4408, 1986; Ord. 4067, 1980.) You'll get a slap on the wrist and a small fine that probably increases with repeat offenses. They save the maximum penalty for people that are dicks to the judge when they go to pay their fine as to be made an example of. This is a coastal town that relies on tourism trying to protect the aesthetics of their shoreline (i.e. their future livelihood) Also it's just for plastic straws. They can still hand out non-plastic straws. --- Buffalo Bills 2018-19 Season Prediction: 5-11 Change my mind ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 07/25/18 5:09:06 PM #59: |
Don't worry conservatives, I'm sure talk first think later will work for you eventually.
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MelzezDoor 07/25/18 5:11:30 PM #60: |
MattSFfrd posted...
you're literally defending FUCKING JAIL TIME FOR HANDING SOMEBODY A STRAW That's not the whole story though. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 07/25/18 5:16:27 PM #61: |
What if I ask for a straw?
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bover_87 07/25/18 5:19:22 PM #62: |
gmanthebest posted...
What if I ask for a straw? They still can't give you a plastic straw. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Schwarber 07/25/18 5:19:35 PM #63: |
gmanthebest posted...
What if I ask for a straw? They pee in your mouth --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 07/25/18 5:21:22 PM #65: |
Hairistotle posted...
You guys are being dramatic. Trolls on CE being super dramatic about a law they dont understand because LIBERALLLLLLLLS!!!!!? That never happens! /s --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 07/25/18 5:21:28 PM #66: |
Hairistotle posted...
Knowingly infecting someone with AIDS isn't illegal? nope! This is why Trump won --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 07/25/18 5:24:02 PM #67: |
Hairistotle posted...
Knowingly infecting someone with AIDS isn't illegal? Something like that. It isnt quite so cut and dry, Im sure. I think it was more along the lines of it being legal to not disclose having HIV because the transmission rate on drugs is zero. Or something to that effect --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 07/25/18 5:26:20 PM #68: |
EnragedSlith posted...
Something like that. It isnt quite so cut and dry, Im sure. I think it was more along the lines of it being legal to not disclose having HIV because the transmission rate on drugs is zero. Or something to that effect It's been explained in this topic but hey why not just take a guess mirite? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 07/25/18 5:28:05 PM #69: |
bover_87 posted...
gmanthebest posted...What if I ask for a straw? That's stupid. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 07/25/18 5:29:11 PM #70: |
California
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Hop103 07/25/18 5:30:06 PM #71: |
We need New California to end these stupid laws. We need to split the Red out of the state, cleanly, none of this thirds crap.
--- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/25/18 5:30:52 PM #72: |
Just so we're clear, giving out a straw at a restaurant is just as illegal as literally giving someone HIV.
But, hey - as long as they don't misgender anyone, right? That's the REAL crime. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 07/25/18 5:32:39 PM #73: |
darkjedilink posted...
Just so we're clear, giving out a straw at a restaurant is just as illegal as literally giving someone HIV. None of this is true, but Im not surprised you lack reading comprehension. You can be given straws. You cant be given plastic straws because its an environmental issue. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bover_87 07/25/18 5:32:42 PM #74: |
gmanthebest posted...
bover_87 posted...gmanthebest posted...What if I ask for a straw? Keyword here is plastic. Straws made of anything else are as legal as they ever were. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 07/25/18 5:33:02 PM #75: |
I Like Toast posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...you're citing the maximum penalty and then acting like it's the mandatory minimum why not both? --- Playing: Yakuza Kiwami; Superhot; Vermintide 2 (~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 07/25/18 5:34:08 PM #76: |
i live in SB. none of our local media says this ban comes with jail time.
what it does say is that there is a 1 year grace period (effective 2019) and every restaurant has been notified. only 5 in town have sought exceptions to the rule. not sure where this jail time part is coming from --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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theAteam 07/25/18 5:35:10 PM #77: |
E32005 posted...
i live in SB. none of our local media says this ban comes with jail time. I explained in post 58. Also if you google this issue the only sites saying anything about jail time are shit like reason, fox news, daily caller, i.e the usual click bait propaganda machines. --- Buffalo Bills 2018-19 Season Prediction: 5-11 Change my mind ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_SilverX 07/25/18 5:35:59 PM #78: |
Hairistotle posted...
Knowingly infecting someone with AIDS isn't illegal? it's treated the same as stealing a candy bar lmao California is trash. --- I support Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 07/25/18 5:36:25 PM #79: |
i didn't realize the facts posted in #58, thanks for that, theAteam. that makes a lot of sense.
E32005 posted... not sure where this jail time part is coming from the only outlets reporting it as such are right-wing propaganda machines that just hate California because liberals --- Playing: Yakuza Kiwami; Superhot; Vermintide 2 (~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 07/25/18 5:36:29 PM #80: |
theAteam posted...
E32005 posted...i live in SB. none of our local media says this ban comes with jail time. so its national review alt right bullshit...figures --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/25/18 5:40:36 PM #81: |
I don't think the "every straw provided is a seperate viokation" is true. The part that says that uses plural which to me would mean every group of straws provided instead of individual straw.
gmanthebest posted... bover_87 posted...gmanthebest posted...What if I ask for a straw? It's also false. The law clearly states a straw can be provided if it's requested. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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theAteam 07/25/18 5:45:00 PM #82: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
i didn't realize the facts posted in #58, thanks for that, theAteam. that makes a lot of sense. Every time I see one of these click bait articles talking about some insane law I go to the actual ordinances. It's the only place you'll get unbiased answers even if they are sometimes hard to read. But they are always publicly available you just gotta use google. --- Buffalo Bills 2018-19 Season Prediction: 5-11 Change my mind ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 07/25/18 5:46:15 PM #83: |
LightHawKnight posted...
A max of 6 months or a 1000 $ fine, not that bad, but still wtf. it's actually for a repeat offense --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 07/25/18 5:47:42 PM #84: |
No @theAteam, you're wrong! Santa Barbra is going to hire armies of undercover enforcers to arrest and jail every server caught with a straw in his/her hands. Soon they will have no choice but to build new jails, just to house all the straw criminals!
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TheCyborgNinja 07/25/18 6:03:43 PM #85: |
SJdub! SJdub! SJdub!
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BlueBoy675 07/25/18 6:24:37 PM #86: |
We live in a world where you can face legal action for being in possession of a plastic straw.
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bover_87 07/25/18 6:25:19 PM #87: |
BlueBoy675 posted...
We live in a world where you can face legal action for being in possession of a plastic straw. again possession of a straw is not illegal --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/25/18 6:25:57 PM #88: |
BlueBoy675 posted...
We live in a world where you can face legal action for being in possession of a plastic straw. Not at all, unless maybe the straw is made from something like Uranium. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueBoy675 07/25/18 6:27:51 PM #89: |
bover_87 posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...We live in a world where you can face legal action for being in possession of a plastic straw. Wait so is it just businesses serving straws? --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bover_87 07/25/18 6:28:25 PM #90: |
BlueBoy675 posted...
bover_87 posted...BlueBoy675 posted...We live in a world where you can face legal action for being in possession of a plastic straw. Correct, and only for plastic straws. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Chosen Traveler/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolf_J_Flywheel 07/25/18 6:29:37 PM #91: |
Liberals keep inching closer to becoming like their heroes the nazis
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BlueBoy675 07/25/18 6:29:50 PM #92: |
bover_87 posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...bover_87 posted...BlueBoy675 posted...We live in a world where you can face legal action for being in possession of a plastic straw. I admittedly didn't read the article. I'm playing a game so I just kinda skimmed the thread --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/25/18 6:30:25 PM #93: |
BlueBoy675 posted...
Wait so is it just businesses serving straws? Correct, and only plastic ones, and only if it's not requested or otherwise allowed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vicious_Dios 07/25/18 6:32:59 PM #94: |
This is the last straw that broke the camel's back who was grasping at straws.
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MattSFfrd 07/25/18 6:35:50 PM #95: |
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Liberals keep inching closer to becoming like their heroes the nazis it's really quite something but guys, it's for the environment! but guys, it's only PLASTIC straws! but guys, it's ONLY a fine and maybe jail time! fucking terrifying how brainwashed these statist lefties are --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 07/25/18 6:38:25 PM #96: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
EnragedSlith posted...Something like that. It isnt quite so cut and dry, Im sure. I think it was more along the lines of it being legal to not disclose having HIV because the transmission rate on drugs is zero. Or something to that effect Because I responded to an early comment without reading through multiple additional pages and simultaneous conversations. And because I remembered reading that story when it broke, and felt like I remembered enough to respond. Youre being silly. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 07/25/18 6:43:48 PM #97: |
You couldnt make this crap up!!
Im dying of laughter. What a joke of a state. Whats next? They gonna join the UK in banning memes ? --- "No it doesn't. Abortion has never killed a single baby." - Russian Rocket ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/25/18 6:44:45 PM #98: |
JE19426 posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...Wait so is it just businesses serving straws? Imagine defending criminal charges for giving someone a fucking straw. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catboy0_0 07/25/18 6:59:38 PM #99: |
Caution999 posted...
Im dying of laughter. What a joke of a state. it's just santa barbara though --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 07/25/18 7:37:20 PM #100: |
@Awesome posted...
Political affiliations aside for me, it looks like citizens of the USA do like being abused as long as their cult party is winning . That's about the sum of it. If your party does it, it's okay, if the other party does it, they're "literally Hitler" --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThunderTrain 07/25/18 7:58:32 PM #101: |
So what happens when you order a drink at a fast food place?
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