Poll of the Day > I don't have diabetes. My cholesterol is a bit high.

(+) Yeah! (+)

My doctor said so.
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HDL or LDL?

Probably LDL with what you've shared about your life
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That sounds like fairly good news
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SmokeMassTree posted...

HDL or LDL?

Probably LDL with what you've shared about your life

No clue. He said I should eat more fish and less fried foods.

Mead posted...

That sounds like fairly good news

Yeah.
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Both my parents have diabetes so I figured Id check.
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Cholesterol being high isnt a medical problem, it's bad science being uses to sell you drugs. Cholesterol is used by youe body to repair itself, if your cholesterol is high you simply have more repairing going on. Inflammation is what causes heart attacks, not cholesterol. 50% of people who have a heart attack have healthy cholesterol levels.
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ok

I wasnt given any drugs so
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MrMelodramatic posted...

Both my parents have diabetes so I figured Id check.

It's not hereditary, it's a lifestyle problem.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

Both my parents have diabetes so I figured Id check.

It's not hereditary, it's a lifestyle problem.

Also can be caused by incompetent medical practices, which is why my 150 pound mother has it.
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

Both my parents have diabetes so I figured Id check.

It's not hereditary, it's a lifestyle problem.

Also can be caused by incompetent medical practices, which is why my 150 pound mother has it.

How's that work? Like a high sugar drip?
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Omega Hunter posted...

Cholesterol being high isnt a medical problem, it's bad science being uses to sell you drugs. Cholesterol is used by youe body to repair itself, if your cholesterol is high you simply have more repairing going on. Inflammation is what causes heart attacks, not cholesterol. 50% of people who have a heart attack have healthy cholesterol levels.

Is all of this true
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Mead posted...

Omega Hunter posted...

Cholesterol being high isnt a medical problem, it's bad science being uses to sell you drugs. Cholesterol is used by youe body to repair itself, if your cholesterol is high you simply have more repairing going on. Inflammation is what causes heart attacks, not cholesterol. 50% of people who have a heart attack have healthy cholesterol levels.

Is all of this true

Almost, it's not being misrepresented to sell drugs, it's just businesses having no incentive to look at scientific developments if they don't help sales.
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Mead posted...

Omega Hunter posted...

Cholesterol being high isnt a medical problem, it's bad science being uses to sell you drugs. Cholesterol is used by youe body to repair itself, if your cholesterol is high you simply have more repairing going on. Inflammation is what causes heart attacks, not cholesterol. 50% of people who have a heart attack have healthy cholesterol levels.

Is all of this true

LDL is bad for you guy
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's not hereditary, it's a lifestyle problem.

With lifestyles being easy to copy from one's role-models, it obviously would not hurt to check.
Also, some forms are mutation based and thus inheritable.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

Both my parents have diabetes so I figured Id check.

It's not hereditary, it's a lifestyle problem.

This is 100% bullshit.

There are two main types of diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes means your body produces no insulin at all. This is usually caused by genetic factors, and you can inherit it. Type 1 diabetes is usually acquired when you're a small child, but it can happen at any age. It has nothing to do with blood sugar or eating too much sugary foods. Your body just does not produce insulin period.

Type 2 diabetes is what you are thinking about. This is caused by people eating too much sugar, and their bodies become resistant to insulin. This is not the same as type 1 in which your body produces no insulin at all. Type 2 diabetics do produce insulin, but their bodies have become resistant to it over time due to all the sugar they have consumed.

In summary:
Type 1 = instant onset, usually begins in childhood, genetic factors, not related to an unhealthy diet
Type 2 = gradual onset, usually begins in adulthood, genetics are usually not a factor, related to an unhealthy diet of too much sugar

Mead posted...

Omega Hunter posted...

Cholesterol being high isnt a medical problem, it's bad science being uses to sell you drugs. Cholesterol is used by youe body to repair itself, if your cholesterol is high you simply have more repairing going on. Inflammation is what causes heart attacks, not cholesterol. 50% of people who have a heart attack have healthy cholesterol levels.

Is all of this true

No. There is so much misinformation in this thread that it's disturbing.

There are two main kind of cholesterol. LDL and HDL.

LDL is the bad cholesterol This is the stuff that clogs your arteries and causes heart attacks and strokes.

HDL is the good cholesterol. It counteracts the LDL.

Now, having high cholesterol isn't necessarily a bad thing IF it is the HDL that is high and not the LDL. Low cholesterol isn't necessarily a good thing either since it could mean your HDL is too low, and you need HDL to counteract the LDL.

A proper cholesterol testing isn't going to tell you just your overall cholesterol level since that is rather meaningless. A proper cholesterol testing will tell you the levels of both your LDL and HDL. You want the LDL to be low and the HDL to be relatively high.

rogerskg1979 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

Both my parents have diabetes so I figured Id check.

It's not hereditary, it's a lifestyle problem.

This is 100% bullshit.

There are two main types of diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes means your body produces no insulin at all. This is usually caused by genetic factors, and you can inherit it. Type 1 diabetes is usually acquired when you're a small child, but it can happen at any age. It has nothing to do with blood sugar or eating too much sugary foods. Your body just does not produce insulin period.

Type 2 diabetes is what you are thinking about. This is caused by people eating too much sugar, and their bodies become resistant to insulin. This is not the same as type 1 in which your body produces no insulin at all. Type 2 diabetics do produce insulin, but their bodies have become resistant to it over time due to all the sugar they have consumed.

In summary:
Type 1 = instant onset, usually begins in childhood, genetic factors, not related to an unhealthy diet
Type 2 = gradual onset, usually begins in adulthood, genetics are usually not a factor, related to an unhealthy diet of too much sugar

Note how he is an adult and is only questioning it. This conversation is obviously type 2 based.
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rogerskg1979 posted...

LDL is the bad cholesterol This is the stuff that clogs your arteries and causes heart attacks and strokes.

LDL attaches to white blood cells that restrict flow at the sources of inflammation. Your statement is like saying white blood cells cause scars. No, the scarring is due to an injury, the white blood cells are there for a different reason (repair).
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

rogerskg1979 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

MrMelodramatic posted...

Both my parents have diabetes so I figured Id check.

It's not hereditary, it's a lifestyle problem.

This is 100% bullshit.

There are two main types of diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes means your body produces no insulin at all. This is usually caused by genetic factors, and you can inherit it. Type 1 diabetes is usually acquired when you're a small child, but it can happen at any age. It has nothing to do with blood sugar or eating too much sugary foods. Your body just does not produce insulin period.

Type 2 diabetes is what you are thinking about. This is caused by people eating too much sugar, and their bodies become resistant to insulin. This is not the same as type 1 in which your body produces no insulin at all. Type 2 diabetics do produce insulin, but their bodies have become resistant to it over time due to all the sugar they have consumed.

In summary:
Type 1 = instant onset, usually begins in childhood, genetic factors, not related to an unhealthy diet
Type 2 = gradual onset, usually begins in adulthood, genetics are usually not a factor, related to an unhealthy diet of too much sugar

Note how he is an adult and is only questioning it. This conversation is obviously type 2 based.

Backpedal fail. Your original post said nothing about type 1 and type 2. Your original post said diabetes isn't hereditary period.

I also said that type 1 usually begins in childhood, but it can begin in adulthood as well. It's just not as common for it to begin in adulthood.

Now the TC did say that the doctor told him to avoid junk foods, so that makes me think it probably is type 2. However, your ignorant original post just said that diabetes isn't hereditary period. Your backpedaling isn't going to work here. You very clearly meant all diabetes in your original post.

rogerskg1979 posted...

Backpedal fail. Your original post said nothing about type 1 and type 2. Your original post said diabetes isn't hereditary period.

Irrelevant, if I say pies are delicious, that doesn't mean I'm referring to the one of internal ejaculate too. Lrn2context

rogerskg1979 posted...

I also said that type 1 usually begins in childhood, but it can begin in adulthood as well. It's just not as common for it to begin in adulthood.

It's uncommon enough to not be presumed to be talked about when referencing diabetes, particularly since type 1 itself is already less common than 2.

rogerskg1979 posted...

Now the TC did say that the doctor told him to avoid junk foods, so that makes me think it probably is type 2. However, your ignorant original post just said that diabetes isn't hereditary period. Your backpedaling isn't going to work here. You very clearly meant all diabetes in your original post.

So the context is there and you agree it's there, yet somehow I must not be referencing it? Gtfo with that nonsense.
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