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SaccharineSmile 07/24/18 9:47:35 PM #1: |
Why? Unless you think it looks kool shifting up and down like youre a race driver around your quiet neighborhood
Automatics are better and safer as you can just concentrate on driving and not forgetting using your turn signal when changing lanes --- Sent from my IPhone X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 07/24/18 9:49:16 PM #2: |
While yes, you can use a manual to over-rev and make your car loud, there's also the reverse: you can keep it on the low side to conserve fuel, and fuck, does it make a difference.
Also, Automatics are better and safer as you can just concentrate on driving and not forgetting using your turn signal when changing lanes If you really can't manage use of the turn signal just because you might also be changing gears, you probably shouldn't be driving in the first place. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 07/24/18 9:50:09 PM #3: |
Upside is that less people know how to drive them so less chances of getting car jacked
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darkjedilink 07/24/18 9:50:12 PM #4: |
SaccharineSmile posted...
Why? Unless you think it looks kool shifting up and down like youre a race driver around your quiet neighborhood Manual transmissions are far more reliable, less prone to breaking down in regular driving and sport driving, don't require anywhere near as much maintenance, shift faster in most cases, have better gas mileage in most cases (though this is eroding quickly at this point), don't require a computer interface, don't require programming to shift properly, shift as hard or soft as you like, feel better, and actually require skill. I feel sorry for the plebes who don't know how to drive them. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 07/24/18 9:50:41 PM #5: |
KStateKing17 posted...
Upside is that less people know how to drive them so less chances of getting car jacked ^ This, too. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 07/24/18 9:50:59 PM #6: |
Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads.
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jsb0714 07/24/18 9:52:33 PM #7: |
darkjedilink posted...
SaccharineSmile posted...Why? Unless you think it looks kool shifting up and down like youre a race driver around your quiet neighborhood Sure, if you actually believe this shit in 2018. --- Spliiiish! Ka-Boom!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 07/24/18 9:53:55 PM #8: |
jsb0714 posted...
darkjedilink posted...SaccharineSmile posted...Why? Unless you think it looks kool shifting up and down like youre a race driver around your quiet neighborhood Aside from the last line which is more of an opinion than anything else, everything he said is true. He even acknowledged that better mileage is becoming less and less of an advantage with newer models, as autos are catching up. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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electricbugs2 07/24/18 9:55:03 PM #9: |
There's really no point anymore. They removed the manual option from my car (TT) because the paddles just wipe their ass all over the manual.
The only reason I can see getting a manual at this point is if you're a guy who's into classics or JDM's who doesn't have much of a choice. Other than that all modern auto's with paddles spray diarrhea on sticks. --- Is sticking your tongue on a 9-volt battery a masculine gesture?-Questionmarktarius ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/24/18 9:55:06 PM #10: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. I lived in Minnesota for 30 years, and can tell you that's completely bullshit. Your tires have far more to do with safety on icy roads than your transmission. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecSkorpio 07/24/18 9:55:32 PM #11: |
SaccharineSmile posted...
Why? Well 1. The Fiesta with a manual was less expensive than the one with an auto. 2. The auto transmissions in Fiestas suck ass, while the manual ones are fine if you know who to drive stick. 3. I enjoy it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 07/24/18 9:56:56 PM #12: |
I never understood why people bitch about either side. As long as you don't stall at a green light I don't give a fuck.
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IfGodCouldDie 07/24/18 10:43:43 PM #13: |
darkjedilink posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. I drive tractor trailers for a living and drive manual while living in Canada, downshifting is very good for preventing slipping and sliding in situations where you need to slow down. Tires are very important, but being able to down shift and slow down with a more natural feeling will prevent you from sliding as well. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/24/18 10:45:13 PM #14: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. Did you know that you can downshift an automatic transmission, too? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 07/24/18 10:46:15 PM #15: |
darkjedilink posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. If you have a tiptronic transmission, sure. Most automatics on the road dont have that. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/24/18 10:46:54 PM #16: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. Literally every automatic transmission has a stick to go down into at least two lower gears, bruh. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 07/24/18 10:50:07 PM #17: |
The topic creator is obviously angry that he doesnt know how to drive stick and feels better trying to shit on manual transmission.
Kinda sad how ignorant a person can be when they are jealous of other peoples driving abilities or skills. I drive a CVT and like it but I see no reason at all to insult people who drive stick and do so well driving a manual transmission. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook20 07/24/18 10:50:38 PM #18: |
People who own manual cars be talking like it's 2001 in this topic.
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IfGodCouldDie 07/24/18 10:51:21 PM #19: |
darkjedilink posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. Because dropping into 1/2 from a much higher gear is so great. Especially of you own a car old enough to not actually have a tiptronic transmission, you risk fucking your shit up. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 07/24/18 10:52:10 PM #20: |
You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver.
When driving manual, one hand is on the stick. Checkmate --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (6-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tupacrulez 07/24/18 10:53:39 PM #21: |
darkjedilink posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. Which is not actually the same due to how a torque converter works compared to how a clutch works. People who don't know shit about cars arguing about cars is hilarious. --- Suck less, Rock Moar Have I licked butt hole before? All the time. --r4xor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlameAnesthesia 07/24/18 10:54:09 PM #22: |
My manual civic si is fun to drive. I really don't care about looks and I absolutely don't care about TC's opinion.
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darkjedilink 07/24/18 10:54:40 PM #23: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. I'm not convinced you've ever driven an actual car. There isn't an automatic transmission built in the last 75 years that couldn't survive being downshifted into 2nd at 60 miles an hour. Anyone on an icy road doing 60 is an idiot, so we aren't even talking about that speed anyway. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/24/18 10:55:28 PM #24: |
Tupacrulez posted...
darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...darkjedilink posted...IfGodCouldDie posted...Manual cars are safer on icy/slippery roads. The operation of a torque converter actually helps my argument. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lagfile 07/24/18 10:55:42 PM #25: |
LOL MANUAL CARS
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Tupacrulez 07/24/18 10:56:06 PM #26: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. No it shouldn't be, as resting your hand on the stick places load on the shift linkage, which often results in wear on the shift forks as they are pressed into the shift hubs inside the transmission gearbox. The plastic forks pads may wear through and this can result in harsh shifting and misalignment of the forks. So no. Your hand shouldn't be on the stick except to shift. Checkmate. Try again son. --- Suck less, Rock Moar Have I licked butt hole before? All the time. --r4xor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoShadowhen 07/24/18 11:02:52 PM #27: |
DarkTransient posted...
KStateKing17 posted...Upside is that less people know how to drive them so less chances of getting car jacked Your car has less chance of being stolen, but carjacking is bad because the piece of shit won't know how to drive it, so guess what. You're a hostage now. This kind of thing happened a lot back when I was living in one of those American cities that drags down the rest of the country. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 07/24/18 11:03:33 PM #28: |
SaccharineSmile posted...
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Tupacrulez 07/24/18 11:05:04 PM #29: |
The operation of a torque converter actually helps my argument. No it doesn't, as you cannot roll gently off the sprag clutches in a torque converter like you can the friction plate clutch in a manual. The converter will unlock if you are braking (as their lockup engagement is deactivated by a switch tied to the brakes), but if you are not, the converter can stay locked in many models on a downshift (particularly more modern transmission models) to keep excess heat and slippage in check. Because of this, downshifting can be somewhat harsh and vary the torque to the wheels. This is less pronounced in some models as they will slip the clutches a little to help with the changeover, but it can certainly be very noticeable. Simply chucking a typical auto from the last 30 years from 3rd to 2nd in bad weather can see something as drastic as the drive wheels breaking traction. Someone half decent at throwing gears however, can revmatch a downshift to match the wheel speed and torque amounts to the wheels, which would take result in a reduction in traction. --- Suck less, Rock Moar Have I licked butt hole before? All the time. --r4xor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 07/24/18 11:08:27 PM #30: |
darkjedilink posted...
I'm not convinced you've ever driven an actual car. I dont actually care enough to argue with you. I've been driving for 18 years, driving tractor trailers for 10 and never had an accident, plus I have taken 3 years of auto mechanics in highschool. I'm perfectly comfortable with my knowledge on the subject of driving. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 07/25/18 10:35:13 AM #31: |
Tupacrulez posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. Right, so when your hand is on the stick then it's not on the wheel. You failed to refute my point and still said "checkmate try again." Sad! --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (6-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 07/25/18 10:38:04 AM #32: |
LOL @ peeps who TROLL gamefaqs
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KStateKing17 07/25/18 10:40:56 AM #33: |
NeoShadowhen posted...
DarkTransient posted...KStateKing17 posted...Upside is that less people know how to drive them so less chances of getting car jacked That's what guns and bridges are for. --- The 17th King of the State of K ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumpo 07/25/18 10:52:08 AM #34: |
Makes the experience more engaging
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Vindris_SNH 07/25/18 10:52:22 AM #35: |
They're fun.
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Trumpo 07/25/18 10:53:32 AM #36: |
It is also a theft deterrent in the us
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Taharqa_ 07/25/18 10:57:33 AM #37: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Tupacrulez posted...Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. It's not like you have to shift every 5 seconds. Most of the time my hands are on the wheel. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 07/25/18 10:57:42 AM #38: |
I just love grabbing the shaft and jerking it around to change gears.
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Muffinz0rz 07/25/18 11:45:53 AM #39: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...Tupacrulez posted...Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. Your hands should be on the wheel all the time. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (6-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 07/25/18 11:47:26 AM #40: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Taharqa_ posted...Muffinz0rz posted...Tupacrulez posted...Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GunmaN1905 07/25/18 11:54:55 AM #41: |
Manaul is cheaper and uses less fuel.
Lower maintenance and better reliability. Much easier to operate with manual than with auto in narrow spaces and crowded streets. Better performance (I'm talking about normal, not cars with a lot of power). I'm left handed so I don't use my right hand for steering, anway. It just gets in the way. I'm not an American so I know how to drive manual. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 07/25/18 12:07:53 PM #42: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...Taharqa_ posted...Muffinz0rz posted...Tupacrulez posted...Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. Am I wrong? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (6-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 07/25/18 1:41:23 PM #43: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Taharqa_ posted...Muffinz0rz posted...Taharqa_ posted...Muffinz0rz posted...Tupacrulez posted...Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. Well if you think removing your hand to shift is a problem then yeah. Most people don't drive like a grandma with their hands glued to the wheel at all times anyway. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 07/25/18 1:58:40 PM #44: |
Manuals are only good these days if you want a more fun driving experience or you want to save money by not getting the automatic option.
Modern automatics have gotten good enough that the advantages of manuals don't hold true anymore. Also Formula 1 banned CVTs because they were too good. https://www.racefans.net/2007/05/03/banned-continuously-variable-transmission-cvt/ --- ~Yuki~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 07/25/18 2:45:58 PM #45: |
Taharqa_ posted...
Well if you think removing your hand to shift is a problem then yeah. Most people don't drive like a grandma with their hands glued to the wheel at all times anyway. Then most people are driving more unsafely than they could or should be. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (6-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VectorChaos 07/25/18 2:48:05 PM #46: |
DarkTransient posted...
KStateKing17 posted...Upside is that less people know how to drive them so less chances of getting car jacked I mean, I've read more than one news story where the carjacker can't drive stick so they fucking kill the driver in anger :/ --- "Donald Trump has the most presidential penis of all time" - DifferentialEquation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tupacrulez 07/25/18 8:39:59 PM #47: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Tupacrulez posted...Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. "When driving a manual,one hand is on the stick" This is stated as an absolute. You didn't say "one hand is off the wheel for 2 seconds" or "one hand is on the stick during shifting". Because you stayed it as an absolute, my saying that you should not rest your hand on the stick does indeed refute your point. Checkmate again. 2-0. Try again son. I love hat tricks. --- Suck less, Rock Moar Have I licked butt hole before? All the time. --r4xor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 07/26/18 10:57:24 AM #48: |
Tupacrulez posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...Tupacrulez posted...Muffinz0rz posted...You need two hands on the wheel at all times to be a safe driver. Oh so you're attacking a semantic implication which, as a manual driver, I figure you understood, instead of the core argument? And you're calling that a win? Sad, really. I honestly figured it went without saying that obviously your hand is not permanently on the stick at all times while driving. But I guess it did need to be stated. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (6-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 07/26/18 11:12:02 AM #50: |
GregShmedley posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...Sad, really. I honestly figured it went without saying that obviously your hand is not permanently on the stick at all times while driving. But I guess it did need to be stated. LOL please, it's a fucking obvious implication. He either A.) Actually didn't understand, in which case he's a shitty driver for literally having one hand on the stick at all times or B.) Understood the implication but didn't have a response to the core argument so decided to attack the implication instead of the argument. Either way it's an L for him because as a manual driver he should obviously fucking know that the hand isn't on the stick at all times. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (6-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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