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iPhone_7
07/23/18 10:23:59 PM
#51:


action52 posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Star Wars under Disney is an example of white genocide. The feminazi Kathleen Kennedy and hacks JJ Abrams & Rian Johnson must be stopped.

Is this guy for real? It's so crazy you'd think it must be a joke but I know there are seriously people who think this.

They threw the lifelong white male fans that made the franchise successful under the bus in favor of
- a Mary Sue
- a bumbling Kevin Hart stormtrooper
- a sjw Asian girl
- and a no fun allowed strong independent bossy woman that demands blind respect & loyalty. She had the colored hair, only thing missing was a tattoo and a nose piercing to really drive home the fact that this franchise now serves as feminist propaganda.
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cjsdowg
07/23/18 10:26:10 PM
#52:


iPhone_7 posted...

They threw the lifelong white male fans that made the franchise successful under the bus in favor of


They literally made the only black guy with a name into a got damn fool, and you are talking about poor white guys. RJ literally made Kylo the protagonist and dropped Finn. They explained away all of the Kylo faults, and even had a white women there to build his story . And you are really complaining about what they did to white guys.
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EpicKingdom_
07/23/18 10:26:54 PM
#53:


iPhone_7 posted...
action52 posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Star Wars under Disney is an example of white genocide. The feminazi Kathleen Kennedy and hacks JJ Abrams & Rian Johnson must be stopped.

Is this guy for real? It's so crazy you'd think it must be a joke but I know there are seriously people who think this.

They threw the lifelong white male fans that made the franchise successful under the bus in favor of
- a Mary Sue
- a bumbling Kevin Hart stormtrooper
- a sjw Asian girl
- and a no fun allowed strong independent bossy woman that demands blind respect & loyalty. She had the colored hair, only thing missing was a tattoo and a nose piercing to really drive home the fact that this franchise now serves as feminist propaganda.
https://i.redd.it/6aw3vw8uep501.jpg

#MakeStarWarsGreatAgain


Of course, you could add so much more to this list.

QFT.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/223-star-wars/76659546
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hockeybub89
07/23/18 10:28:41 PM
#54:


Never. This prequels sucked. I couldn't give a fuck about his ambition or his world building if he fucking sucks at turning it into an enjoyable movie. The Last Jedi is very flawed, but it is still a far better movie than any of that prequel schlock. I don't care about how faithful it is. At least it looks nice, has an amazing lightsaber fight, and has no The Room-quality acting.
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glitteringfairy
07/23/18 10:28:44 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Lucas would at least make an interesting world and would continue with the original story outline that actually has a contained story instead of this open-ended TV show-like crap.

No, he was going to shrink people and have them injected into someone with the force and meet midichlorians like they were living creatures. It was completely bizarre. I'll see if I can find the article
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creativerealms
07/23/18 10:29:11 PM
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No as the prequel movies were worse.
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Proto_Spark
07/23/18 10:29:24 PM
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I really like the new star wars movies >_> For the most part, better than the old ones.

Haven't seen Solo yet, but like, theres honestly like one good non-disney star wars movie.
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Star_Spirit
07/23/18 11:37:23 PM
#58:


LIsJustice posted...
Rogue One>>>>>>Prequel trilogy

Except, Ep 3 is the best SW film
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Dash_Harber
07/23/18 11:38:47 PM
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Ah hell no. The new trilogy beats the hell out of the prequels, both as Star Wars movies and as enjoyable movies in general.
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Delirious_Beard
07/23/18 11:40:58 PM
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why would i miss the person who made the worst star wars movies
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Ryven
07/23/18 11:44:05 PM
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It's good that nobody's bringing up how he turned Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull into a dumpster fire.

.oh wait -_-

Well, consider that can of worms open.
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iPhone_7
07/23/18 11:56:39 PM
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Finn was a piece of s*** character to begin with.

1. He didnt want to hurt people yet right away was totally fine with killing the people he grew up & trained with.

2. First girl he sees he assumes shes a damsel in distress and then asks her if she has a cute boyfriend.

3. He tells the stupid soccer ball droid, Droid please!. Get it? Its like he was going to say N***** please! because hes black but it was directed towards a robot. So adorable

4. He can never win by fighting one vs one. He gets his ass kicked by TR-8R and has to be saved by the white man.

5. I used to be a janitor

6. Its okay, well use the force!

7. Im in charge now Phasma! Im in charge! Im in charge! White man: take it down a notch

Thank god they didnt make this piece of s*** character a Jedi. He should have been killed off by Kylo Ren
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action52
07/24/18 10:45:46 AM
#63:


EpicKingdom_ posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
action52 posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Star Wars under Disney is an example of white genocide. The feminazi Kathleen Kennedy and hacks JJ Abrams & Rian Johnson must be stopped.

Is this guy for real? It's so crazy you'd think it must be a joke but I know there are seriously people who think this.

They threw the lifelong white male fans that made the franchise successful under the bus in favor of
- a Mary Sue
- a bumbling Kevin Hart stormtrooper
- a sjw Asian girl
- and a no fun allowed strong independent bossy woman that demands blind respect & loyalty. She had the colored hair, only thing missing was a tattoo and a nose piercing to really drive home the fact that this franchise now serves as feminist propaganda.
https://i.redd.it/6aw3vw8uep501.jpg

#MakeStarWarsGreatAgain


Of course, you could add so much more to this list.

QFT.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/223-star-wars/76659546

You know, I have never said that everyone who hates this movie is sexist/racist/nazi or whatever. I don't feel that way at all.

At the same time, there is very definitely an undercurrent of bigots who despise this movie. And here are two of them. One literally is saying this movie is white genocide.

I'm not interested in having a discussion with people who think the Star Wars movies are part of a big "feminazi" agenda to oppress white males, any more than I want to argue with someone who thinks NASA is a big conspiracy to convince us the earth isn't flat.

I'm willing to talk with more reasonable people who aren't bigots, of course. Even if they don't like the same movies as me.
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action52
07/24/18 11:49:03 AM
#64:


cjsdowg posted...
What did you like about the story. I honestly don't see anything to like.

I liked the way they humanized Luke. I always thought the way the old EU made him into a super force god was kind of boring. I think it fits Luke's character that he didn't fall to the dark side, but he had one moment of weakness where the dark side overwhelmed him, and it wound up costing him almost everything.

I didn't like seeing him being a pathetic sad sack but after knowing someone who has battled with really crippling depression, it rang true to me. I've seen how it can turn someone into a different person.

I thought the Rey and Kylo Ren dynamic was so good. Having Kylo Ren use his own feelings to fool Snoke was really smart.

The Casino was the weakest part but I liked seeing the starry eyed Rose gaining confidence and feeling like she could be a hero the way her sister was.

I thought the movie did a good job of showing Holdo and Poe as two clashing personalities trying to do the right thing but failing. I went through the first time hating Holdo but then instantly realizing that Poe had been wrong all along. That one part where he asks her to level with him, and you see her face looking vulnerable like she really wants to tell him... and then he sees something on the monitor and throws a tantrum, literally screaming and kicking.

And oh, that moment with R2 on the Falcon... then with Leia just before the showdown, when they play the Luke and Leia theme...

"I know what you're going to say. I changed my hair."

"It looks good that way."

Oh man, that really got to me. And that whole final showdown was so well executed. Kylo has that line about letting the past die but Luke shows him how he can't, and Kylo Ren's true defeat is knowing that the past will always be with him.

Then that double sunset. I had kind of expected Luke would die so he could come back as a force ghost in Episode IX. But man, they did it so beautifully here.
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cjsdowg
07/24/18 1:35:42 PM
#65:


Thanks for your long reply.

I don't understand how anyone can think Holdo is right. If Holdo said We have plan but we must keep it need to know. That would be one thing. Half the ship even people on the Bridge Crew had no clue that plan exist at all.

Next Rose literally stops Finn for being the hero that her sister was and she does nothing put people lives in danger. I just don't get it.

Thanks for tell me why you like it, I just don't get it. But you seem to be happy and not taking a piss out of the people who didn't like so. So I thank you for that.
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Proto_Spark
07/24/18 3:30:47 PM
#66:


cjsdowg posted...
Thanks for your long reply.

I don't understand how anyone can think Holdo is right. If Holdo said We have plan but we must keep it need to know. That would be one thing. Half the ship even people on the Bridge Crew had no clue that plan exist at all.

Next Rose literally stops Finn for being the hero that her sister was and she does nothing put people lives in danger. I just don't get it.

Thanks for tell me why you like it, I just don't get it. But you seem to be happy and not taking a piss out of the people who didn't like so. So I thank you for that.


I think the Holdo part could have 100% been done better, and so could the casino planet part. Holdo just not including Poe could have been done better, but I liked that Poe needed to learn that being a hot-headed Han-Solo type isn't actually the best idea

I feel like the casino planet was needed, because it made the scuffle between the rebels and the first order seem like an actual large-scale war instead of like, two gangs fighting over a block. It definitely could have been done better, but They needed to also go somewhere else.

I liked Rose stopping Finn from trying to be the hero because of all "You're a hero by saving the people you love, not killing the people you hate" and I really liked that. I also think if Finn died there it would've been lame, as the past two movies have turning Finn from some Coward who wants to hide from the first order to a full-fledged rebel, and if he kills himself in the first moment he really has to prove it, he was still a pretty bad rebel IMO.
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cjsdowg
07/24/18 3:33:06 PM
#67:


Proto_Spark posted...

I liked Rose stopping Finn from trying to be the hero because of all "You're a hero by saving the people you love, not killing the people you hate" and I really liked that. I also think if Finn died there it would've been lame, as the past two movies have turning Finn from some Coward who wants to hide from the first order to a full-fledged rebel, and if he kills himself in the first moment he really has to prove it, he was still a pretty bad rebel IMO


To me I wanted Finn to die there. This movie they moved him back. In the last movie we see him fighting Klyo. In this movie he is made to be the joke black characters who relearns the same lesson. If he would have rammed the gun and saved everyone at least he could have been a hero.
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TheMarthKoopa
07/24/18 3:34:27 PM
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George Lucas would have made something more creative and imaginative, even if it had a good chance of being bad, but would still be better than the completely uninspired, safe, generic trash Disney pooped out
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Proto_Spark
07/24/18 3:43:22 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Proto_Spark posted...

I liked Rose stopping Finn from trying to be the hero because of all "You're a hero by saving the people you love, not killing the people you hate" and I really liked that. I also think if Finn died there it would've been lame, as the past two movies have turning Finn from some Coward who wants to hide from the first order to a full-fledged rebel, and if he kills himself in the first moment he really has to prove it, he was still a pretty bad rebel IMO


To me I wanted Finn to die there. This movie they moved him back. In the last movie we see him fighting Klyo. In this movie he is made to be the joke black characters who relearns the same lesson. If he would have rammed the gun and saved everyone at least he could have been a hero.


I felt like in TFA Finn moved from just wanting to be gone to just caring about Rey, and then in TLJ he goes from only caring about Rey to actually caring about the Rebel cause. But I can see how it feels like the same general arc twice.
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SpiralDrift
07/24/18 3:46:46 PM
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Nah. Episodes 1-6 told a complete story and it's over. I don't want or need any Star Wars beyond that.
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cjsdowg
07/24/18 3:52:08 PM
#71:


Proto_Spark posted...

I felt like in TFA Finn moved from just wanting to be gone to just caring about Rey, and then in TLJ he goes from only caring about Rey to actually caring about the Rebel cause. But I can see how it feels like the same general arc twice.


I have seen other people say that there was difference. However at least to me, there is nothing that happened in TLJ that should make such a change. He saw the FO kill billions of people with a flash in the sky. And yet he didn't want to stop the FO, but he say some arms dealers that helped both sides,now he is all aboard . I don't understand that leap.
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Dash_Harber
07/25/18 6:29:28 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Proto_Spark posted...

I felt like in TFA Finn moved from just wanting to be gone to just caring about Rey, and then in TLJ he goes from only caring about Rey to actually caring about the Rebel cause. But I can see how it feels like the same general arc twice.


I have seen other people say that there was difference. However at least to me, there is nothing that happened in TLJ that should make such a change. He saw the FO kill billions of people with a flash in the sky. And yet he didn't want to stop the FO, but he say some arms dealers that helped both sides,now he is all aboard . I don't understand that leap.


The people in The Resistance treated him better than the people in the First Order, I'd assume. The power of friendship, and all that.
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cjsdowg
07/25/18 1:18:36 PM
#73:


Dash_Harber posted...

The people in The Resistance treated him better than the people in the First Order, I'd assume. The power of friendship, and all that.


But his nice interactions mostly happen before TLJ. So that means he should have had his change of heart at the end of the TFA. In this movie the only other resistant member he spent time with was Rose . Who treated him like crap. I honestly don't see how he was change into a full member in TLJ. When he literally learned that there were shady stuff on both sides.
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Proto_Spark
07/25/18 2:47:17 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Dash_Harber posted...

The people in The Resistance treated him better than the people in the First Order, I'd assume. The power of friendship, and all that.


But his nice interactions mostly happen before TLJ. So that means he should have had his change of heart at the end of the TFA. In this movie the only other resistant member he spent time with was Rose . Who treated him like crap. I honestly don't see how he was change into a full member in TLJ. When he literally learned that there were shady stuff on both sides.


IMO it wasn't until Finn and Rose met the codebreaker who was only in it for himself and sold Finn and Rose out at the first opportunity that made him want to actually fight for the resistance, because he was finally exposed to the type of damage that can come from not picking a side.

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DevsBro
07/25/18 3:00:39 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Films_directed_by_George_Lucas

George directed one movie that was better and three that were worse than episodes 7 and 8.

No, can't say I miss him.
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SauI_Goodman
07/25/18 3:04:38 PM
#76:


Orlando_Jordan posted...
Every Star Wars movie Disney has churned out has been a steaming pile of ****.


And yet we have episodes 1-3.
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Orlando_Jordan
07/25/18 5:25:21 PM
#77:


SauI_Goodman posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
Every Star Wars movie Disney has churned out has been a steaming pile of ****.


And yet we have episodes 1-3.

At least episodes 1 and 3 were good. Finn is an even worse character than Jar Jar Binks.
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cjsdowg
07/25/18 9:59:43 PM
#78:


Orlando_Jordan posted...

At least episodes 1 and 3 were good. Finn is an even worse character than Jar Jar Binks.


bolded to truthfulness
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Delirious_Beard
07/25/18 10:12:35 PM
#79:


Orlando_Jordan posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
Every Star Wars movie Disney has churned out has been a steaming pile of ****.


And yet we have episodes 1-3.

At least episodes 1 and 3 were good. Finn is an even worse character than Jar Jar Binks.


dude you're gonna have to try harder than this
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Ludwig Von 2
07/26/18 9:57:25 AM
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The thing with Finn is he doesnt be do anything, or at least not anything I care about. With the other trilogys you had Han and Obi Wan. When they had screen time they were doing something that actually affected the plot. With Finn I feel its very much the opposite.

So no I dont hate Finn, but I do not think his storylines have added much to the series as a whole.
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