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bloodydeath0
07/20/18 4:47:32 PM
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guy made bad jokes hella years ago so he gets fired from a majorly successful franchise now lol jesus christ humanity is doomed
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KamenRiderBlade
07/20/18 4:47:45 PM
#152:


Zikten posted...
that's the part that pisses me off. probably around 90% of people have at some point in their lives posted something they wouldn't want others to see. yet everytime a famous person gets caught they judge them.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/20/18 4:48:32 PM
#153:


bloodydeath0 posted...
guy made bad jokes hella years ago so he gets fired from a majorly successful franchise now lol jesus christ humanity is doomed
He's probably going to get Black Listed from work in Hollywood as well.

His Hollywood career is effectively over.

Same with any other victim of the #MeToo movement.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 4:48:43 PM
#154:


Yes bad jokes... about rape, the Holocaust and AIDS yep those aren't very touchy subjects and things you don't tend to joke about on a public forum at all.
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nemu
07/20/18 4:51:27 PM
#155:


spikethedevil posted...
Yes bad jokes... about rape, the Holocaust and AIDS yep those aren't very touchy subjects and things you don't tend to joke about on a public forum at all.

Jokes are jokes. People are free to be offended about them, but they should not be grounds for immediate removal. I'm sure they have every contractual right to do so, but I don't think they would have if we weren't in this "action must be taken immediately at the first sign of offense" outrage culture we're living in.
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Zikten
07/20/18 4:52:10 PM
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nobody has updated places like google or imdb. still listing him as director
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Kushinadahime
07/20/18 4:52:39 PM
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He won't be first nor the last to learn the hard way that the shit posting is best done anonymously rather than with social media tied to your real name.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 4:52:51 PM
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nemu posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Yes bad jokes... about rape, the Holocaust and AIDS yep those aren't very touchy subjects and things you don't tend to joke about on a public forum at all.

Jokes are jokes. People are free to be offended about them, but they should not be grounds for immediate removal. I'm sure they have every contractual right to do so, but I don't think they would have if we weren't in this "action must be taken immediately at the first sign of offense" outrage culture we're living in.


Have you actually read them? They are fucking horrific.
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Tyranthraxus
07/20/18 4:53:06 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
if you said even 1/2 of his jokes on GameFAQs you'd be instantly suspended and this place is generally a laid back corner of the internet that people waste free time on for fun.

Disney is literally a career making movies and animation for kids and teens. You absolutely cannot have your top employees making "best part about rape" jokes on twitter.

you can't even call someone a poophead on here


You cannot directly insult another user by calling them a poophead.

You can call anyone else a poophead.
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CapnMuffin
07/20/18 4:53:24 PM
#162:


TheVipaGTS posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Jesus Christ this world has better things to tackle.

i never understood this line of thinking. the world is also tackling those things. A group of people bringing a tweet to light that causes disney to make a personal business decision doesn't prevent the world from tackling other things.

Its not a literal call to action or meant as a logical argument. Just verbal fluff to express frustration.
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ThatMuttGuy
07/20/18 4:54:06 PM
#164:


Zikten posted...
nobody has updated places like google or imdb. still listing him as director

No shit, it just happened.
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ThanksUglyGod
07/20/18 4:54:15 PM
#165:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
guy made bad jokes hella years ago so he gets fired from a majorly successful franchise now lol jesus christ humanity is doomed
He's probably going to get Black Listed from work in Hollywood as well.

His Hollywood career is effectively over.

Same with any other victim of the #MeToo movement.

He'll be fine, just like all the other guys who didn't commit crimes like Harvey Weinstein.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/20/18 4:55:59 PM
#166:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
He'll be fine, just like all the other guys who didn't commit crimes like Harvey Weinstein.
Yeah, they'll just live off their existing bags of $ that they made and are contracted to collect.

I wouldn't be surprised if a Inverse Hollywood forms where everybody who was sleighted or hurt by the #MeToo movement joins together to create their own Hollywood and make movies / entertainment.
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nemu
07/20/18 4:57:02 PM
#167:


nemu posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Yes bad jokes... about rape, the Holocaust and AIDS yep those aren't very touchy subjects and things you don't tend to joke about on a public forum at all.

Jokes are jokes. People are free to be offended about them, but they should not be grounds for immediate removal. I'm sure they have every contractual right to do so, but I don't think they would have if we weren't in this "action must be taken immediately at the first sign of offense" outrage culture we're living in.


Have you actually read them? They are fucking horrific.

You're free to call them crass and tasteless. That is valid criticism. I don't think that on its own should be enough for immediate removal though. It sets a really bad slippery slope. Those can be pretty much objectively said to be offensive, but I worry that the outrage police will eventually start coming for even more mundane speech.
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 4:57:21 PM
#168:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
guy made bad jokes hella years ago so he gets fired from a majorly successful franchise now lol jesus christ humanity is doomed
He's probably going to get Black Listed from work in Hollywood as well.

His Hollywood career is effectively over.

Same with any other victim of the #MeToo movement.

He'll be fine, just like all the other guys who didn't commit crimes like Harvey Weinstein.


Last I checked rape and sexual assault are crimes.
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hockeybub89
07/20/18 4:57:32 PM
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spikethedevil
07/20/18 4:58:33 PM
#170:


nemu posted...
nemu posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Yes bad jokes... about rape, the Holocaust and AIDS yep those aren't very touchy subjects and things you don't tend to joke about on a public forum at all.

Jokes are jokes. People are free to be offended about them, but they should not be grounds for immediate removal. I'm sure they have every contractual right to do so, but I don't think they would have if we weren't in this "action must be taken immediately at the first sign of offense" outrage culture we're living in.


Have you actually read them? They are fucking horrific.

You're free to call them crass and tasteless. That is valid criticism. I don't think that on its own should be enough for immediate removal though. It sets a really bad slippery slope. Those can be pretty much objectively said to be offensive, but I worry that the outrage police will eventually start coming for even more mundane speech.


Part of it is Disney wanting to keep they're family friendly image.
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Zikten
07/20/18 4:59:28 PM
#171:


ThatMuttGuy posted...
Zikten posted...
nobody has updated places like google or imdb. still listing him as director

No shit, it just happened.

there is no need to be an ass
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CapnMuffin
07/20/18 5:03:17 PM
#172:


Imagine if Walt Disney had a Twitter. Shit would be a gold mine.
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-Ghetsis-
07/20/18 5:03:32 PM
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CapnMuffin posted...
Imagine if Walt Disney had a Twitter. Shit would be a gold mine.

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gunplagirl
07/20/18 5:04:16 PM
#174:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
gunplagirl posted...
You CAN make rape jokes, you can drink and drive, you can cannibalize your loved ones. You probably shouldn't do any of the above though, and you'll have only yourself to blame when your actions come back to haunt you.

Only a horrible fucking human being would compare jokes to either of those (illegal and murderous) things. Good thing you're not being serious.

gunplagirl posted...
And "I get jokes offend you" seems an awful lot like you're implying I don't 'get' the humor. It's tacitly implied that I don't "get" the humor of rape jokes.

I don't see how this implies that at all, but I don't live in your weirdass brain space.

gunplagirl posted...
And it doesn't matter when he made the jokes, he didn't bother scrubbing them and it generated bad press for his employer. *shrugs* your paradigms seem a bit incompatible at times.

This is nonsense. His employer accepted that that past existed when they hired him.


Oh I'm quite serious, you can draw a parallel without having to make it a direct 1:1 comparison. It's actually hilarious you'd say I'm not being serious when you're the one angry he got fired but also think it's acceptable he said those things.

What you said earlier in the quote block is that I am offended by rape jokes. Go back and read what you said. It implied I don't get the humor.

And that's a bull shit excuse. They knew some of what he had said before was offensive but here's the thing, they still could punish him for what they knew upon further inspection. And the fact that it came up AND generated backlash for Disney AND showed that they had hired a person they would never have had they known the extent of his offensive nature? Fuck him, he deserves to be dropped as he never deserved to be hired.

Now then it says via google that guardians 1 released in 2014, but teasers and filming would have started by late 2012, meaning he was on board by then. That's a fuck of a lot different than "stuff from a decade ago" with respect to that point in time. It would have been 5 years and much more recent. What's your limit, what's too long to hold somebody accountable for their actions? 1 year? 3? 5?
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Jiek_Fafn
07/20/18 5:04:53 PM
#175:


After uncovering video of Gilbert Godfrey making offensive jokes, Disney has decided to digitally remove Iago from all Aladdin movies.
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Zikten
07/20/18 5:06:34 PM
#176:


Gunplagirl, if you read his comments about his past, he is a changed man. You want to teach him a lesson but he already learned it. He stopped making those jokes and felt bad about it. And now you want to bring it up again for revenge
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gunplagirl
07/20/18 5:06:59 PM
#177:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
guy made bad jokes hella years ago so he gets fired from a majorly successful franchise now lol jesus christ humanity is doomed
He's probably going to get Black Listed from work in Hollywood as well.

His Hollywood career is effectively over.

Same with any other victim of the #MeToo movement.


Guy does something shitty, gets in trouble for it, "uwu he's the real victim here"
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dj1200
07/20/18 5:08:24 PM
#178:


Uh, whoa. He seriously put that stuff on the internet? Yikes.
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ThanksUglyGod
07/20/18 5:08:32 PM
#179:


spikethedevil posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
bloodydeath0 posted...
guy made bad jokes hella years ago so he gets fired from a majorly successful franchise now lol jesus christ humanity is doomed
He's probably going to get Black Listed from work in Hollywood as well.

His Hollywood career is effectively over.

Same with any other victim of the #MeToo movement.

He'll be fine, just like all the other guys who didn't commit crimes like Harvey Weinstein.


Last I checked rape and sexual assault are crimes.

I mean the ones who don't have years/decades of sexual assault allegations. Dudes like Casey Affleck, Michael Douglas, and James Franco are still getting work.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/20/18 5:09:11 PM
#180:


gunplagirl posted...
Guy does something shitty, gets in trouble for it, "uwu he's the real victim here"
Imagine if your employer gets copies of ALL of your internet posting history and finds a damning post as a reason to fire you.

Wouldn't you be salty?
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MabusIncarnate
07/20/18 5:09:48 PM
#181:


Honestly, they should really consider scrapping the 3rd film. I don't see it being anything close without him directing. My interest in seeing it went from peak to rock bottom since this news.
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gunplagirl
07/20/18 5:09:58 PM
#182:


Zikten posted...
Gunplagirl, if you read his comments about his past, he is a changed man. You want to teach him a lesson but he already learned it. He stopped making those jokes and felt bad about it. And now you want to bring it up again for revenge

He'd never have been hired had he not made them in the first place, and holding somebody accountable is hardly "revenge" when there was zero reason for his actions to begin with and he never bothered to delete them or have an assistant or whatever do so for him. He had the means but never considered it and it's precisely that lack of foresight that caused this, not "revenge".
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Zikten
07/20/18 5:12:15 PM
#183:


so what if they weren't deleted? what does that matter? it was years ago. he changed. people forgot and the world moved on and he made great movies. and now you think it's ok to ruin what would have been a great trilogy over old news. it's not like he murdered someone. it was just a tasteless joke. did you know that probably every comedidian has some horrible jokes in their closet? its said that many of them tell these jokes in private holywood parties. even people you think are clean and family friendly people like Bob Saget
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gunplagirl
07/20/18 5:12:55 PM
#184:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Guy does something shitty, gets in trouble for it, "uwu he's the real victim here"
Imagine if your employer gets copies of ALL of your internet posting history and finds a damning post as a reason to fire you.

Wouldn't you be salty?


It would have been salt that made me make such a moronic decision as to post something so offensive that the general populace disagrees. As for political views like my hating trump? I'd not want to work for a company that would fire me for posting things critical of him, so. *shrugs* I'd be about as salty as those bottled waters that have an extremely low amount of sodium in them.
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Kitt
07/20/18 5:13:28 PM
#185:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Honestly, they should really consider scrapping the 3rd film. I don't see it being anything close without him directing. My interest in seeing it went from peak to rock bottom since this news.

I wasn't even going to bother with the first movie until I realized that he was the one directing and went to go see it day one. GotG1 is still my favorite MCU movie to this day and this is really unfortunate news to me.
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LIsJustice
07/20/18 5:13:47 PM
#186:


CapnMuffin posted...
Imagine if Walt Disney had a Twitter. Shit would be a gold mine.

I wonder if it would be more or less vile than Trump's.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
07/20/18 5:14:22 PM
#187:


Jiek_Fafn posted...
After uncovering video of Gilbert Godfrey making offensive jokes, Disney has decided to digitally remove Iago from all Aladdin movies.

In one of Penn Jillette's books, he wrote about meeting up with Gilbert just after Gilbert's mom died, and they were trading jokes; keep in mind that most comedians, especially those who work blue, know some pretty fucked up jokes. He said the jokes they told were so vulgar and offensive that "If I even hinted at them obliquely, you'd put this book down and start organizing protests." ^_^
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gunplagirl
07/20/18 5:14:43 PM
#188:


Zikten posted...
so what if they weren't deleted? what does that matter? it was years ago. he changed. people forgot and the world moved on and he made great movies. and now you think it's ok to ruin what would have been a great trilogy over old news. it's not like he murdered someone. it was just a tasteless joke. did you know that probably every comedidian has some horrible jokes in their closet? its said that many of them tell these jokes in private holywood parties. even people you think are clean and family friendly people like Bob Saget


Bob Saget is a sack of crap, and the fact that what he posted was still out there and he had, quite literally, shared similar posts for other people in order to hold them accountable? If he's truly changed then he'd understand that he's being held responsible.
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Zikten
07/20/18 5:14:56 PM
#189:


LIsJustice posted...
I wonder if it would be more or less vile than Trump's.

he literally directly supported nazis. and I don't mean like neo nazis or red neck racists. literal nazis. he gave donations and support to the nazi party of germany while Hitler was in power. as literal and direct as you can support nazis
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NibeIungsnarf
07/20/18 5:16:52 PM
#190:


gunplagirl posted...
Oh I'm quite serious, you can draw a parallel without having to make it a direct 1:1 comparison. It's actually hilarious you'd say I'm not being serious when you're the one angry he got fired but also think it's acceptable he said those things.

There's no serious comparison possible between murdering and eating someone and making a rape joke. You'd have to be the most absurd of extremists to believe that. One step beneath ISIS.

If you were a real person, that is.

gunplagirl posted...
What you said earlier in the quote block is that I am offended by rape jokes. Go back and read what you said. It implied I don't get the humor.

Doesn't imply that at all, but keep living in your psychosis where nobody except you can be right about things you don't know.

gunplagirl posted...
And that's a bull shit excuse. They knew some of what he had said before was offensive but here's the thing, they still could punish him for what they knew upon further inspection. And the fact that it came up AND generated backlash for Disney AND showed that they had hired a person they would never have had they known the extent of his offensive nature? Fuck him, he deserves to be dropped as he never deserved to be hired.

Nope. They hired him and now they're firing him not because of something he did that they thought he should be fired for, but because a twitter mob unearthed old as shit comments and called for his execution.

gunplagirl posted...
Now then it says via google that guardians 1 released in 2014, but teasers and filming would have started by late 2012, meaning he was on board by then. That's a fuck of a lot different than "stuff from a decade ago" with respect to that point in time. It would have been 5 years and much more recent. What's your limit, what's too long to hold somebody accountable for their actions? 1 year? 3? 5?

So what you're saying is that he made offensive comments during the hiring process in which Disney was scrutinizing him and saw no issues until 6 years later?
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prince_leo
07/20/18 5:19:16 PM
#191:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Honestly, they should really consider scrapping the 3rd film. I don't see it being anything close without him directing. My interest in seeing it went from peak to rock bottom since this news.

tbh the second was really meh and such a downgrade from the first that I didn't really hold out hope for the third
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El Mexicano Texano
07/20/18 5:19:20 PM
#192:


Nothing of value was lost he just made those terrible overhyped cliche milked rehashed superhero movies.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/20/18 5:20:58 PM
#193:


gunplagirl posted...
It would have been salt that made me make such a moronic decision as to post something so offensive that the general populace disagrees. As for political views like my hating trump? I'd not want to work for a company that would fire me for posting things critical of him, so. *shrugs* I'd be about as salty as those bottled waters that have an extremely low amount of sodium in them.
What if your political views black lists you from any work for the rest of your life?
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legendarylemur
07/20/18 5:21:24 PM
#194:


A_Good_Boy posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Fuck.

How old were those tweets? Still legit fucked up good lord....

This is why you don't live on the edge. Cause one day you're gonna want to get off but the edge will pull you back and make you slip.

No, you don't wanna live on the edge because that'd be really uncomfortable and you're better off living on a more flat surface
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Zikten
07/20/18 5:22:45 PM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
Nothing of value was lost he just made those terrible overhyped cliche milked rehashed superhero movies.

did you even watch them? Guardians is not cliche to earth based super hero movies. you didn't watch them at all. you couldn't have. you literally think Guardians of the Galaxy is the same thing as Captain America Winter Soldier. to you it's all the same and you probably no idea what even happens in Guardians of the Galaxy
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iPhone_7
07/20/18 5:23:13 PM
#196:


Thatll teach him. Let any and all comedians or jokesters rethink their miserable lives before criticizing our dear leader.
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Zikten
07/20/18 5:23:59 PM
#197:


iPhone_7 posted...
Thatll teach him. Let any and all comedians or jokesters rethink their miserable lives before criticizing our dear leader.

it already did. he stopped making those jokes years ago and moved on to a new phase in his life. this was over. and then people dug it up out of the mud for no reason. he's not the same man he was when he posted those
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D-Lo_BrownTown
07/20/18 5:26:07 PM
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lol look at this jerk

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Peter_Giffyndor
07/20/18 5:29:45 PM
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This is why most people fucking hate liberals.
Yes, his comments were cringy and dumb, but certainly nothing to be fired over and punish millions of fans over.
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DarthAragorn
07/20/18 5:34:01 PM
#200:


Peter_Giffyndor posted...
This is why most people fucking hate liberals.
Yes, his comments were cringy and dumb, but certainly nothing to be fired over and punish millions of fans over.
Bunch of spineless over sensitive pussies we've become.

Yeah

except this time it was trump supporters that got mad at him criticizing trump so they looked for something to get him fired, apparently
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gunplagirl
07/20/18 5:34:18 PM
#201:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Oh I'm quite serious, you can draw a parallel without having to make it a direct 1:1 comparison. It's actually hilarious you'd say I'm not being serious when you're the one angry he got fired but also think it's acceptable he said those things.

There's no serious comparison possible between murdering and eating someone and making a rape joke. You'd have to be the most absurd of extremists to believe that. One step beneath ISIS.

If you were a real person, that is.

gunplagirl posted...
What you said earlier in the quote block is that I am offended by rape jokes. Go back and read what you said. It implied I don't get the humor.

Doesn't imply that at all, but keep living in your psychosis where nobody except you can be right about things you don't know.

gunplagirl posted...
And that's a bull shit excuse. They knew some of what he had said before was offensive but here's the thing, they still could punish him for what they knew upon further inspection. And the fact that it came up AND generated backlash for Disney AND showed that they had hired a person they would never have had they known the extent of his offensive nature? Fuck him, he deserves to be dropped as he never deserved to be hired.

Nope. They hired him and now they're firing him not because of something he did that they thought he should be fired for, but because a twitter mob unearthed old as shit comments and called for his execution.

gunplagirl posted...
Now then it says via google that guardians 1 released in 2014, but teasers and filming would have started by late 2012, meaning he was on board by then. That's a fuck of a lot different than "stuff from a decade ago" with respect to that point in time. It would have been 5 years and much more recent. What's your limit, what's too long to hold somebody accountable for their actions? 1 year? 3? 5?

So what you're saying is that he made offensive comments during the hiring process in which Disney was scrutinizing him and saw no issues until 6 years later?


I'm more real and genuine than your outrage that a piece of shit got in trouble for his actions.

Saying I have psychosis, you sound wonderful. That's an explicit suggestion, which is drastically different than something that is tacitly implied, but I'm now questioning whether you even understand what an implication is.

And you make it sound like they knew about all of his past posts and were okay with it. That's fucking asinine to assume, especially since they would have made sure he deleted these particular posts if they were aware of it. And before you say "oh they knew about these rape posts but were okay with it" you have to remember, it's Disney and they protect their kid friendly image with all their might. But I don't exist and you imagine I gave psychosis so what would I know, I'm just one of your sick fantasies and even I reject you.
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