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Balrog0
07/18/18 12:45:16 PM
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I know that just makes me sound old and curmudgeonly, and I don't mean to imply that things used to be better or anything like that exactly, I just can't stand how we've become so used to being able to select our peer groups and channels of communication that we never need to challenge ourselves intellectually especially when we want to be seen as intellectual (or woke or whatever)
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BlueJester007
07/18/18 12:47:43 PM
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I think the Internet was a brilliant invention with good intentions, but it has since been used as a tool of destruction.

As they say, the path to Hell is paved with good intentions.
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ledbowman
07/18/18 12:48:19 PM
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Is a hot take just when you have an opinion on something soon after it happens?
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theAteam
07/18/18 12:53:52 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Is a hot take just when you have an opinion on something soon after it happens?


Pretty much. It's when someone goes off on a recent topic/event without putting much thought into what they're saying or gathering any kind of evidence for the sake of getting their opinion out there quicker. More often than not it's at best factually incorrect and at worst wrong AND offensive because it's usually an emotionally-charged response.
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ledbowman
07/18/18 12:54:45 PM
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theAteam posted...
ledbowman posted...
Is a hot take just when you have an opinion on something soon after it happens?


Pretty much, it's when someone goes off on a recent topic/event without putting much thought into what they're saying or gathering any kind of evidence for the sake of getting their opinion out there quicker. More often than not it's at best factually incorrect and at worst wrong AND offensive because it's usually an emotionally-charged response.

Thought so.
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eston
07/18/18 12:57:14 PM
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Yeah I remember the old days when people weren't allowed to pick and choose who their friends were
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Balrog0
07/18/18 12:59:51 PM
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eston posted...
Yeah I remember the old days when people weren't allowed to pick and choose who their friends were


I'm not sure if you're joking (Im p sure you are) but I said peer group rather than friends because I don't think this is a phenomenon that is about actual friendships
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Darkman124
07/18/18 1:00:18 PM
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reminder

old people do this too

if anything they do it more
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Balrog0
07/18/18 1:00:59 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
reminder

old people do this too

if anything they do it more


I'm also not trying to suggest it is new in the sense that it is primarily coming from younger people fwiw
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theAteam
07/18/18 1:02:06 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
reminder

old people do this too

if anything they do it more


Everyone is awful. I think if more people just accepted that fact we'd get along better. To realize that it's not just the other side but they, too, are awful.
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Kineth
07/18/18 1:02:25 PM
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Agreed. The quality of the news in general has taken a sharp decline due to every last mouthbreather being able to get their banal thoughts out to others, basically diluting the amount of quality information. It's basically just refined propaganda at this point.
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Darkman124
07/18/18 1:04:01 PM
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Balrog0 posted...

I'm also not trying to suggest it is new in the sense that it is primarily coming from younger people fwiw


sure

i just want you to know that the worst offenders i know of are old curmudgeons like my mother in law

so your view does not make you seem like an old curmudgeon to me

it makes you seem more like my nieces and nephews, most of whom have disengaged from facebook
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Balrog0
07/18/18 1:05:12 PM
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yeah, that's fair, I'm sure that if I got into younger social media like snapchat or even maybe instagram this wouldn't be so much of a problem
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eston
07/18/18 1:07:19 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
eston posted...
Yeah I remember the old days when people weren't allowed to pick and choose who their friends were


I'm not sure if you're joking (Im p sure you are) but I said peer group rather than friends because I don't think this is a phenomenon that is about actual friendships

Perhaps you could be more specific about what you mean then, because I think I'm missing your point. I don't think the ability to control whom you associate with is a new thing
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Darkman124
07/18/18 1:08:04 PM
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ah the curse of being too old to use snapchat but too young to enjoy how facebook has become a screaming ground for a bunch of virtue-signaling morons.

i feel your pain. my doctor advised two acetaminophen a day.
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Balrog0
07/18/18 1:16:49 PM
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eston posted...
I don't think the ability to control whom you associate with is a new thing


Well

I mean, it definitely is from an evolutionary standpoint. It's only very recently in human history that we've had stuff like cars, planes, and trains so for most of the rest of the time people have been stuck in place and that means stuck with people.

But for more recent history, I would say any time before IRC was a thing was very different than now with respect to who your peers are. And even then, messengers and chat rooms, and then xanga and livejournal, didn't really allow for the kind of constant information sharing between people who don't actually know each other that we have now

I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing but you certainly have more options today about who you interact with, which arguably means it is much easier to manage the ratio of people who disagree with you vs people who agree with you in your social(?) circle
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Balrog0
07/18/18 1:19:00 PM
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there's also a socioeconomic element to that btw

rich, white, educated people are more likely than poor, non-white, less educated people to not engage in cross-cutting political discourse

whether that relates to this social media thing, I can't say
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Kineth
07/18/18 1:22:57 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
there's also a socioeconomic element to that btw

rich, white, educated people are more likely than poor, non-white, less educated people to not engage in cross-cutting political discourse

whether that relates to this social media thing, I can't say


Hmm. Does that mean that the former group doesn't like to engage in political discourse with people who aren't likeminded?
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