Current Events > Scarlett Johansson bullied out of transgender role

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catboy0_0 07/16/18 3:46:34 PM #153:	It looks like it just isn't time for transmovies --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:905185109] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>It looks like it just isn't time for transmovies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peter_Giffyndor 07/16/18 6:21:21 PM #154:	Sayoria posted... Peter_Giffyndor posted... pinky0926 posted... She wasn't bullied out of it. A community was critical, and after listening to them she changed her mind. So bullied Bullying is an unwarranted action upon a party who didn't do anything. ScarJo took a role she shouldn't have taken. This is heckling. Not bullying. So you get to pick and choose what roles she takes? So...bullied. <cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted [p:905193253] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>She wasn't bullied out of it. A community was critical, and after listening to them she changed her mind.</quote> So bullied</quote> Bullying is an unwarranted action upon a party who didn't do anything. ScarJo took a role she shouldn't have taken. This is heckling. Not bullying.</quote> So you get to pick and choose what roles she takes? So...bullied.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 07/16/18 8:27:54 PM #155:	Sayoria posted... Peter_Giffyndor posted... pinky0926 posted... She wasn't bullied out of it. A community was critical, and after listening to them she changed her mind. So bullied Bullying is an unwarranted action upon a party who didn't do anything. ScarJo took a role she shouldn't have taken. This is heckling. Not bullying. She didn't do anything. She accepted a role she was offered, then some assholes bullied her for not being actually trans (even though she's an ACTRESS), and then she dropped the role because people were being assholes to her for NO REASON. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:905200621] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peter_Giffyndor posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>She wasn't bullied out of it. A community was critical, and after listening to them she changed her mind.</quote> So bullied</quote> Bullying is an unwarranted action upon a party who didn't do anything. ScarJo took a role she shouldn't have taken. This is heckling. Not bullying.</quote> She didn't do anything. She accepted a role she was offered, then some assholes bullied her for not being actually trans (even though she's an ACTRESS), and then she dropped the role because people were being assholes to her for NO REASON.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 07/16/18 8:45:47 PM #156:	She got backlash for Mokoto Kusanagi. She knows backlash. She just expected she could stomach this backlash again but this was too much for her. She snapped back at the nay-sayers even. She knows accepting the role was wrong. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:905201644] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>She got backlash for Mokoto Kusanagi. She knows backlash. She just expected she could stomach this backlash again but this was too much for her. She snapped back at the nay-sayers even. She knows accepting the role was wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/17/18 2:13:00 AM #157:	averagejoel posted... Asherlee10 posted... Sayoria posted... The idea is that if you are going to make a movie with transgender people, why not use transgender people? Probably because there are not a lot of transgendered actors that are famous enough (A-listers) to generate the box office movement they need. Sometimes movies can get away with unknown or little-known actors, but not all that often. and part of the reason there aren't many trans A-listers is because roles like this are given to cis women instead of trans men Or maybe it's because trans people make up like 0.7% of the population and therefore it works be statistically unlikely for there to exist more than a couple who can act in SAG, and the likelihood that they have the right age and look makes it even more unlikely. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:905217298] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>The idea is that if you are going to make a movie with transgender people, why not use transgender people?</quote> Probably because there are not a lot of transgendered actors that are famous enough (A-listers) to generate the box office movement they need. Sometimes movies can get away with unknown or little-known actors, but not all that often.</quote> and part of the reason there aren't many trans A-listers is because roles like this are given to cis women instead of trans men</quote> Or maybe it's because trans people make up like 0.7% of the population and therefore it works be statistically unlikely for there to exist more than a couple who can act in SAG, and the likelihood that they have the right age and look makes it even more unlikely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 2:19:00 AM #158:	At the very least, if you're making a film about a fat, short trans man then fill the role with a man. Preferably one who is at least heavyset since they can film it so he appears shorter. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905217476] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>At the very least, if you're making a film about a fat, short trans man then fill the role with a man. Preferably one who is at least heavyset since they can film it so he appears shorter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/17/18 2:25:58 AM #159:	gunplagirl posted... At the very least, if you're making a film about a fat, short trans man then fill the role with a man. Preferably one who is at least heavyset since they can film it so he appears shorter. And at the very least, if you're making a movie about a Texan then fill the role with an actual Texan And if you're making a movie about a blonde person, you better get someone who's naturally blonde And if you're making a movie about Batman, then fill the role with an actual orphan. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:905217716] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>At the very least, if you're making a film about a fat, short trans man then fill the role with a man. Preferably one who is at least heavyset since they can film it so he appears shorter.</quote> And at the very least, if you're making a movie about a Texan then fill the role with an actual Texan And if you're making a movie about a blonde person, you better get someone who's naturally blonde And if you're making a movie about Batman, then fill the role with an actual orphan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 2:33:59 AM #160:	Sephiroth1288 posted... gunplagirl posted... At the very least, if you're making a film about a fat, short trans man then fill the role with a man. Preferably one who is at least heavyset since they can film it so he appears shorter. And at the very least, if you're making a movie about a Texan then fill the role with an actual Texan And if you're making a movie about a blonde person, you better get someone who's naturally blonde And if you're making a movie about Batman, then fill the role with an actual orphan. Trans men are men. Have a man fill the role. Having a woman fill the role just upholds negative and stereotypes that undermine the validity of an already marginalized group. Texans aren't some marginalized group that frequently is under attack by legislation. Neither are blondes. Believe it or not, most of the adults who have played batman also lost one or more parent prior to taking that role so yeah, kindly fuck off. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905217955] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>At the very least, if you're making a film about a fat, short trans man then fill the role with a man. Preferably one who is at least heavyset since they can film it so he appears shorter.</quote> And at the very least, if you're making a movie about a Texan then fill the role with an actual Texan And if you're making a movie about a blonde person, you better get someone who's naturally blonde And if you're making a movie about Batman, then fill the role with an actual orphan.</quote> Trans men are men. Have a man fill the role. Having a woman fill the role just upholds negative and stereotypes that undermine the validity of an already marginalized group. Texans aren't some marginalized group that frequently is under attack by legislation. Neither are blondes. Believe it or not, most of the adults who have played batman also lost one or more parent prior to taking that role so yeah, kindly fuck off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/17/18 2:46:31 AM #161:	gunplagirl posted... Trans men are men. Biologically, trans men are females. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:905218332] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Trans men are men.</quote> Biologically, trans men are females.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 07/17/18 2:52:32 AM #162:	It's weird that progressives have this feeling that people are obligated to do what they want. Sure, it'd be nice for a trans person to get it, but they aren't entitled to it, and others aren't obligated to give it to them. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:905218492] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>It's weird that progressives have this feeling that people are obligated to do what they want. Sure, it'd be nice for a trans person to get it, but they aren't entitled to it, and others aren't obligated to give it to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 2:53:48 AM #163:	Sephiroth1288 posted... gunplagirl posted... Trans men are men. Biologically, trans men are females. Have you phenotyped every trans man, both living and dead? --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905218518] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Trans men are men.</quote> Biologically, trans men are females.</quote> Have you phenotyped every trans man, both living and dead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/17/18 4:35:58 AM #164:	gunplagirl posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... gunplagirl posted... Trans men are men. Biologically, trans men are females. Have you phenotyped every trans man, both living and dead? It wouldn't matter because intersex isn't transgenderism. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:905220797] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Trans men are men.</quote> Biologically, trans men are females.</quote> Have you phenotyped every trans man, both living and dead?</quote> It wouldn't matter because intersex isn't transgenderism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 4:44:08 AM #165:	Sephiroth1288 posted... gunplagirl posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... gunplagirl posted... Trans men are men. Biologically, trans men are females. Have you phenotyped every trans man, both living and dead? It wouldn't matter because intersex isn't transgenderism. But the two aren't mutually exclusive. And the entire premise of "biological sex" in the manner you used it is a misnomer and intellectually dishonest. Regardless. The guy was a man, and casting a thin woman to play a fat man and conflate the entire trans issue is bull shit. It's like casting George Clooney to play MLK Jr., it erases a shit ton from the historic figure they're portraying. But then, you never actually intended to see the film because you don't like trans people, so you're only really using her apologizing and stepping down from the film as a chance to attack trans people further. Which is to say, I'd have a much more meaningful and intellectual conversation with a piece of cheese. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905220963] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Trans men are men.</quote> Biologically, trans men are females.</quote> Have you phenotyped every trans man, both living and dead?</quote> It wouldn't matter because intersex isn't transgenderism.</quote> But the two aren't mutually exclusive. And the entire premise of "biological sex" in the manner you used it is a misnomer and intellectually dishonest. Regardless. The guy was a man, and casting a thin woman to play a fat man and conflate the entire trans issue is bull shit. It's like casting George Clooney to play MLK Jr., it erases a shit ton from the historic figure they're portraying. But then, you never actually intended to see the film because you don't like trans people, so you're only really using her apologizing and stepping down from the film as a chance to attack trans people further. Which is to say, I'd have a much more meaningful and intellectual conversation with a piece of cheese.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nazanir 07/17/18 5:10:06 AM #166:	Kitt posted... 50Blessings posted... The double standards of the left continue. Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it? Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why. --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir <cite>Nazanir posted [p:905221461] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>The double standards of the left continue.</quote> Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it?</quote> Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/17/18 5:22:49 AM #167:	Nazanir posted... Kitt posted... 50Blessings posted... The double standards of the left continue. Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it? Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why. Wasn't that like 30 years ago? <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905221682] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>The double standards of the left continue.</quote> Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it?</quote> Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why.</quote> Wasn't that like 30 years ago?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 5:25:12 AM #168:	Nazanir posted... Kitt posted... 50Blessings posted... The double standards of the left continue. Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it? Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why. Where was the outrage against the string if arsons against gay bars in the 70s and 80s? (Answer: it was there and it was from lgbt people but their voice was much less powerful and they were much less accepted at the time, therefore preventing the outrage from growing) And much of the inspiration for the movie came from reporting by a journalist who has since expressed deep regret at how she at the time had a fundamental misunderstanding of what Brandon Teena being a trans man actually entailed, and in turn how it was responsible for the movie portraying him as ultimately being a girl. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905221715] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>The double standards of the left continue.</quote> Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it?</quote> Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why.</quote> Where was the outrage against the string if arsons against gay bars in the 70s and 80s? (Answer: it was there and it was from lgbt people but their voice was much less powerful and they were much less accepted at the time, therefore preventing the outrage from growing) And much of the inspiration for the movie came from reporting by a journalist who has since expressed deep regret at how she at the time had a fundamental misunderstanding of what Brandon Teena being a trans man actually entailed, and in turn how it was responsible for the movie portraying him as ultimately being a girl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 5:25:52 AM #169:	NibeIungsnarf posted... Nazanir posted... Kitt posted... 50Blessings posted... The double standards of the left continue. Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it? Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why. Wasn't that like 30 years ago? 19 years for the film, about 30 for the murder. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905221723] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>50Blessings posted...</cite> <quote>The double standards of the left continue.</quote> Can a topic be made without somebody bringing politics shit into it?</quote> Where was the outrage when Hillary Swank also played a trans character? Wait, what's that? She got an Oscar an praise for that role? That's why.</quote> Wasn't that like 30 years ago?</quote> 19 years for the film, about 30 for the murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/17/18 5:26:44 AM #170:	Right so yeah that's dumb. It's like saying why were people saying Birth of a Nation was racist in the 1940s when everyone was cool with it in 1915. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905221742] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>Right so yeah that's dumb. It's like saying why were people saying Birth of a Nation was racist in the 1940s when everyone was cool with it in 1915.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 5:37:00 AM #171:	NibeIungsnarf posted... Right so yeah that's dumb. It's like saying why were people saying Birth of a Nation was racist in the 1940s when everyone was cool with it in 1915. A reasonable post from you. And correct. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905221911] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>Right so yeah that's dumb. It's like saying why were people saying Birth of a Nation was racist in the 1940s when everyone was cool with it in 1915.</quote> A reasonable post from you. And correct.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 07/17/18 5:37:22 AM #172:	ClunkerSlim posted... eston posted... So Scarlet Johansson is the only reason this is a high profile movie? I find that hard to believe Um... why? We wouldnt even be talking about this movie right now if she hadnt dropped out of it. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/flcnpawn.png http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/84543589.gif <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:905221915] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClunkerSlim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>So Scarlet Johansson is the only reason this is a high profile movie? I find that hard to believe</quote> Um... why? We wouldnt even be talking about this movie right now if she hadnt dropped out of it.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 07/17/18 6:58:36 AM #173:	gunplagirl posted... But the two aren't mutually exclusive. And the entire premise of "biological sex" in the manner you used it is a misnomer and intellectually dishonest. Ok so are only intersex trans men men? And are trans men who aren't intersex women? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:905223402] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> But the two aren't mutually exclusive. And the entire premise of "biological sex" in the manner you used it is a misnomer and intellectually dishonest.</quote> Ok so are only intersex trans men men? And are trans men who aren't intersex women?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 4:28:40 PM #174:	Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905248469] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
happibivouac 07/17/18 4:31:54 PM #175:	gunplagirl posted... Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him Link? --- 1,2,3,4,5,6 DO IT! <cite>happibivouac posted [p:905248653] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him</quote> Link?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 07/17/18 4:34:03 PM #176:	Everybody, grab your pitchforks!! Dwayne johnson is next!! --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:905248776] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>Everybody, grab your pitchforks!! Dwayne johnson is next!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 07/17/18 4:40:47 PM #177:	gunplagirl posted... Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him Or he wanted to make the movie with ScarJo and sees no point now. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:905249176] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him</quote> Or he wanted to make the movie with ScarJo and sees no point now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 07/17/18 4:48:39 PM #178:	the left is cannibalizing itself once again --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:905249617] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote>the left is cannibalizing itself once again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 7:55:33 PM #179:	NibeIungsnarf posted... gunplagirl posted... Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him Or he wanted to make the movie with ScarJo and sees no point now. Sounds pathetic FLUFFYGERM posted... the left is cannibalizing itself once again It's not cannibalizing when they aren't even left people to begin with --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905259703] in Scarlett J... [t:76811797]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Hah, so rather than cast a trans man or a man at all the director is saying he's probably going to scrap the project entirely. He's just mad he doesn't get to make the rules and so he's taking the ball home him</quote> Or he wanted to make the movie with ScarJo and sees no point now.</quote> Sounds pathetic <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>the left is cannibalizing itself once again</quote> It's not cannibalizing when they aren't even left people to begin with</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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