Current Events > Another black guy killed by the cops, supposedly.

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gadgaurd
07/14/18 8:20:07 PM
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Disclaimer: The information I have is second hand and not verified at the moment. Should hit the news soon enough because there were a few vans on the scene already. Happened in Chicago, IL near the Jeffery Plaza around 71st & Jeffery.

Anyway, long story short: Cops stop a guy who had a gun. Guy claims to be liscenced to carry said gun. Officer asks where his papers are. He says "right here" and reaches for them. Questioning officer immediately draws and unloads on him.

People will be quick to point out that the guy shouldn't have reached for anything. This is correct. I want to also point out that the cop should not have immediately fired multiple shots. She could have drew her gun and told him to freeze first, but she immediately went for the kill. That'd be proper behavior for a soldier in a war zone. Not an officer who's supposed to protect and serve.

Anyway, full story will be out soon enough if it isn't already up.
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UnfairRepresent
07/16/18 3:53:53 PM
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Ok
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StrangeFamiliar
07/16/18 3:55:06 PM
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Got the preemptive thing going, nice.
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Rika_Furude
07/16/18 3:57:58 PM
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Actually, a soldier in a warzone wouldnt fire on a civilian unless their life was in imminent danger.
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gadgaurd
07/16/18 4:09:50 PM
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happibivouac
07/16/18 4:13:12 PM
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Ugh, god damnit... Nothing I can comment on this would make it any better. I'll just say it sucks someone died.
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iPhone_7
07/16/18 6:05:51 PM
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Running away from cops and reaching for weapon. What a surprise that he was shot by police.
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Dusk_
07/16/18 6:10:02 PM
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Fair next.

Lol there was already riots.... and people wonder why BLM isn't taken seriously. Though it's pretty well known people who support BLM lack any sense of logical thinking.
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darkjedilink
07/16/18 6:18:06 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Running away from cops and reaching for weapon. What a surprise that he was shot by police.

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EliteLevel
07/16/18 6:18:33 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Actually, a soldier in a warzone wouldnt fire on a civilian unless their life was in imminent danger.


I guess you havent been to any war zones where Israeli soldiers are present.
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DarkTransient
07/16/18 6:19:18 PM
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Dusk_ posted...
Fair next.

Lol there was already riots.... and people wonder why BLM isn't taken seriously. Though it's pretty well known people who support BLM lack any sense of logical thinking.


The most amusing part is, is that from time to time, there'll be a case where someone is shot by police and there really isn't any justification.

And indeed, in some (not all) of those cases, it will be a black man.

And when such a case happens, involving a black man? More often than not, BLM is dead silent about it.
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darkjedilink
07/16/18 6:26:46 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Dusk_ posted...
Fair next.

Lol there was already riots.... and people wonder why BLM isn't taken seriously. Though it's pretty well known people who support BLM lack any sense of logical thinking.


The most amusing part is, is that from time to time, there'll be a case where someone is shot by police and there really isn't any justification.

And indeed, in some (not all) of those cases, it will be a black man.

And when such a case happens, involving a black man? More often than not, BLM is dead silent about it.

Because, to BLM, black lives don't matter. If they did, they'd be protesting gang violence a hell of a lot harder than 'police brutality.'
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fuzzylittlbunny
07/16/18 6:28:02 PM
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Is this the barber guy who got violent with the cops?
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RoboLaserGandhi
07/16/18 6:32:17 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Actually, a soldier in a warzone wouldnt fire on a civilian unless their life was in imminent danger.

That's a little different considering the consequences of representing a foreign government and killing someone else's civilian.
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Cheater87
07/16/18 6:33:33 PM
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Saw this on the news, rioting is happing from what I hear.
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nicklebro
07/16/18 6:37:51 PM
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Dusk_ posted...
Fair next.

Lol there was already riots.... and people wonder why BLM isn't taken seriously. Though it's pretty well known people who support BLM lack any sense of logical thinking.

Why are you bringing up BLM?
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thronedfire2
07/16/18 6:40:17 PM
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nicklebro posted...
Dusk_ posted...
Fair next.

Lol there was already riots.... and people wonder why BLM isn't taken seriously. Though it's pretty well known people who support BLM lack any sense of logical thinking.

Why are you bringing up BLM?


Because theyre inciting riots without waiting for all the facts. Again.
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LedZeppelin
07/16/18 6:48:13 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
nicklebro posted...
Dusk_ posted...
Fair next.

Lol there was already riots.... and people wonder why BLM isn't taken seriously. Though it's pretty well known people who support BLM lack any sense of logical thinking.

Why are you bringing up BLM?


Because theyre inciting riots without waiting for all the facts. Again.

of course they are. of course. despite the fact that this was extremely fair based on the video evidence.

i often get the feeling that the blm types are just looking for any excuse to riot and loot no matter how justified. thugs like that should be locked up for a long time
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0AbsoluteZero0
07/16/18 7:20:41 PM
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Im not a big fan of cops myself but this shooting was 100% justified based on the video. He made several blatant reaches towards the holstered handgun on his hip, he very easily could have been about to whip around and shoot at the officers.
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Dark_SilverX
07/16/18 7:25:50 PM
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it's a very unfortunate situation. May the police get through this tragic moment and also RIP to this young man.

both sides are hurting, but the only way to come back is by tackling this problem together.
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visualboy2003
07/16/18 7:26:53 PM
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east asian-american cops and russian cops are much better, right.
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winged_weltall
07/16/18 7:40:15 PM
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I'm usually horrified by the way cops handle these situations. Probably send one too many fucked up cop videos about how they overreact and kill a black guy. However this time I'll say I can't blame the cop too much. It really did look like he reach for his gun and he moved away from them. He could have told them where his gun was located while moving his hands away from it. it would have been a smarter move on his side if he was thinking of survival, consider many other well reported situations.
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nicklebro
07/16/18 7:50:59 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
nicklebro posted...
Dusk_ posted...
Fair next.

Lol there was already riots.... and people wonder why BLM isn't taken seriously. Though it's pretty well known people who support BLM lack any sense of logical thinking.

Why are you bringing up BLM?


Because theyre inciting riots without waiting for all the facts. Again.

That was BLM? I heard there was riots, I didn't know BLM started them tho. I thought it was just upset people.
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gadgaurd
07/16/18 10:22:03 PM
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Outer_space posted...
gadgaurd posted...
Story's out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWdqee-itN8" data-time="


Can't say I blame them for opening fire after seeing how dude was moving.

Did you make your opening post before you saw the video?

I made the OP before the footage was even out. In fact, I don't think there were any stories up at the time. As I said, I saw news vans on scene as I was heading home.
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UnfairRepresent
07/17/18 1:56:57 AM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
m not a big fan of cops

shit CE says
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catboy0_0
07/17/18 1:58:09 AM
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gadgaurd
07/17/18 3:00:04 AM
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Outer_space posted...
gadgaurd posted...
Outer_space posted...
gadgaurd posted...
Story's out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWdqee-itN8" data-time="


Can't say I blame them for opening fire after seeing how dude was moving.

Did you make your opening post before you saw the video?

I made the OP before the footage was even out. In fact, I don't think there were any stories up at the time. As I said, I saw news vans on scene as I was heading home.

I didn't pay attention to the date of your post. My bad.

No problem.
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0AbsoluteZero0
07/17/18 6:06:35 PM
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@UnfairRepresent posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
m not a big fan of cops

shit CE says

What? I understand that police services are a necessary thing, but so many officers and departments are irredeemably crooked and corrupt in America. The whole system needs an overhaul in my opinion. Is that really so ridiculous?
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darkprince45
07/17/18 7:27:02 PM
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I know the officer in this shooting. The dude literally pulled out an illegal ccw

Good shoot
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MedzXVIII
07/17/18 7:32:40 PM
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Six people were killed and 22 wounded in shootings across the city over the weekend

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-99782682/
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UnfairRepresent
07/18/18 5:42:44 AM
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MedzXVIII posted...
Six people were killed and 22 wounded in shootings across the city over the weekend

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-99782682/

ok?
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Ving_Rhames
07/18/18 5:48:40 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
If they did, they'd be protesting gang violence a hell of a lot harder than 'police brutality.'


Actually, they do protest gang violence. Not that you'd know that.

That said, even if they didn't, in what world (Your weird fucked up one) does appealing to CRIMINAL reforming equate to appealing to LAW ENFORCEMENT? If we're equating the two, there's clearly a problem with our law enforcement.
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Milkman5
07/18/18 5:52:20 AM
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People in Chicago more upset by police doing their jobs than the crimes in their city
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MedzXVIII
07/18/18 1:34:41 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
Six people were killed and 22 wounded in shootings across the city over the weekend

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-99782682/

ok?

not ok
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MedzXVIII
07/18/18 1:34:54 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
People in Chicago more upset by police doing their jobs than the crimes in their city

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darkjedilink
07/18/18 2:25:25 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
darkjedilink posted...
If they did, they'd be protesting gang violence a hell of a lot harder than 'police brutality.'


Actually, they do protest gang violence. Not that you'd know that.

That said, even if they didn't, in what world (Your weird fucked up one) does appealing to CRIMINAL reforming equate to appealing to LAW ENFORCEMENT? If we're equating the two, there's clearly a problem with our law enforcement.

Link ONE anti-gang BLM protest.

Also, if you care about young black men dying, going after the groups responsible for the most young black men dying would make the most sense, and have the largest impact, agreed?

Hint - that's not cops. It's gangs of young black people.
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Questionmarktarius
07/18/18 2:26:40 PM
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This is why open carry needs to be destigmatized.
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gadgaurd
07/18/18 2:29:02 PM
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I've walked past more than one anti gang protest/demonstration just going about my day in the City. Wether they were with BLM or not I dunno, but I can say they were all black.

And yeah, multi tasking is a thing, multiple groups of people doing different things is also a thing. People can protest gang violence and police shootings. Wether it's the same people doing both or two groups of people doing one or the other. That is, in fact, what already happens.
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BlueJester007
07/18/18 2:29:47 PM
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Day race baiting title
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nicklebro
07/19/18 2:15:49 AM
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Hey so is it an established fact that this was BLM?
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