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Abyssea
07/10/18 12:58:57 PM
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going to have the screaming, completely non-verbal, violent kind of autism, would you still want her to have the baby? The doctor was able to tell you for sure that he would never be able to communicate and would require a caregiver for the entirety of his life.

Answer honestly. I know it is a hard call to make.
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Flockaveli
07/10/18 1:00:10 PM
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Ill pass.
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MC_BatCommander
07/10/18 1:00:29 PM
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my wife and I agreed long ago we would abort in this situation
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Vegy
07/10/18 1:00:53 PM
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She's da only one who gets to decide yes or no, I'll support my cute white wife's decision
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HotLap
07/10/18 1:05:10 PM
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Can he dunk though? I'll put up with a screaming mess if he's got an eight foot vertical leap and can slam it home with a windmill. The screaming would actually look pretty cool in that scenario.
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Abyssea
07/10/18 1:09:51 PM
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HotLap posted...
Can he dunk though? I'll put up with a screaming mess if he's got an eight foot vertical leap and can slam it home with a windmill. The screaming would actually look pretty cool in that scenario.


sadly his only real talent is pounding holes in your dry wall.
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VandorLee
07/10/18 1:10:51 PM
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Me and my wife would say never.
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Aristoph
07/10/18 1:11:41 PM
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Abyssea posted...

Answer honestly. I know it is a hard call to make.


Not a hard call at all, tbh. I wouldn't want to have the kid.
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Pancake
07/10/18 1:12:34 PM
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i don't feel qualified to make the call of whether or not that life is worth living. i think life is unfair in general. it isn't ethical to kill something off on the grounds that it may be burdensome.
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SageHarpuia
07/10/18 1:12:43 PM
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Close your account.
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catboy0_0
07/10/18 1:12:57 PM
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my parents chose to let me live
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Zikten
07/10/18 1:13:16 PM
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I don't approve of abortion it goes against my morals. And I have autism myself so I could never do that. If this happened though it would probably be cause of my own autism and that's why I could never have a child, even if I was capable of convincing a woman to let me impregnate her. But in theory, I could never do an abortion
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ThePrinceFish
07/10/18 1:13:31 PM
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Pancake posted...
i don't feel qualified to make the call of whether or not that life is worth living. i think life is unfair in general. it isn't ethical to kill something off on the grounds that it may be burdensome.

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Abyssea
07/10/18 1:13:34 PM
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Pancake posted...
i don't feel qualified to make the call of whether or not that life is worth living. i think life is unfair in general. it isn't ethical to kill something off on the grounds that it may be burdensome.


It is your kid though and you're going to be the ones taking care of it.
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Deadpool_18
07/10/18 1:13:46 PM
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Zikten
07/10/18 1:14:32 PM
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Aristoph posted...
Abyssea posted...

Answer honestly. I know it is a hard call to make.


Not a hard call at all, tbh. I wouldn't want to have the kid.

This right her just sounds so fucked up to me. It's your child. I just.....it's an alien concept to me but I guess this is why pro choicers convince themselves that the fetus "doesn't count" until it's born
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/10/18 1:14:44 PM
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I don't want kids
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HotLap
07/10/18 1:14:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
I don't approve of abortion it goes against my morals. And I have autism myself so I could never do that. If this happened though it would probably be cause of my own autism and that's why I could never have a child, even if I was capable of convincing a woman to let me impregnate her. But in theory, I could never do an abortion


Can you dunk?
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MattSFfrd
07/10/18 1:14:53 PM
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HotLap posted...
Can he dunk though? I'll put up with a screaming mess if he's got an eight foot vertical leap and can slam it home with a windmill. The screaming would actually look pretty cool in that scenario.


i laughed way too hard at this
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Zikten
07/10/18 1:15:18 PM
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HotLap posted...
Zikten posted...
I don't approve of abortion it goes against my morals. And I have autism myself so I could never do that. If this happened though it would probably be cause of my own autism and that's why I could never have a child, even if I was capable of convincing a woman to let me impregnate her. But in theory, I could never do an abortion


Can you dunk?

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Uncle Choad
07/10/18 1:15:53 PM
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Adios, kid.
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Abyssea
07/10/18 1:16:35 PM
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thankfully im gay and I don't have to worry about it. im just curious how people would handle that. I know that I would have trouble wanting the baby knowing it would never be able to communicate or function on its own.
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Veggeta X
07/10/18 1:16:58 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
my wife and I agreed long ago we would abort in this situation

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Pancake
07/10/18 1:17:23 PM
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It is your kid though and you're going to be the ones taking care of it.

not that i feel equipped for the task, but wouldn't that give me opportunities to improve the quality of life of someone who would really really need that?
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SageHarpuia
07/10/18 1:18:36 PM
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Abyssea posted...
Pancake posted...
i don't feel qualified to make the call of whether or not that life is worth living. i think life is unfair in general. it isn't ethical to kill something off on the grounds that it may be burdensome.


It is your kid though and you're going to be the ones taking care of it.

Oh ok. So my parents had every right to kill me when I was a rebellious teen?
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Mr_Biscuit
07/10/18 1:18:41 PM
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Honestly... no. Neither would my wife. Would we abort? I have no idea. Thats the nightmare scenario.
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Abyssea
07/10/18 1:19:09 PM
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Pancake posted...
It is your kid though and you're going to be the ones taking care of it.

not that i feel equipped for the task, but wouldn't that give me opportunities to improve the quality of life of someone who would really really need that?


well, i doubt he'd really be able to understand you're improving his quality of life. remember, he can't communicate and just screams all day.
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Abyssea
07/10/18 1:20:12 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Abyssea posted...
Pancake posted...
i don't feel qualified to make the call of whether or not that life is worth living. i think life is unfair in general. it isn't ethical to kill something off on the grounds that it may be burdensome.


It is your kid though and you're going to be the ones taking care of it.

Oh ok. So my parents had every right to kill me when I was a rebellious teen?


were you a screaming non-verbal autist in your teens?
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Pancake
07/10/18 1:22:11 PM
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This person's life is going to be a burden regardless. Why let them drag you and your partner down as well? Don't you want to live life?

humans adjust quickly to qol changes. we're like goldfish.

well, i doubt he'd really be able to understand you're improving his quality of life.

are you the type of person who holds a door for someone else and fires back 'you're welcome!' if they don't say anything?
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Darkman124
07/10/18 1:22:56 PM
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no
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SageHarpuia
07/10/18 1:23:00 PM
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Abyssea posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Abyssea posted...
Pancake posted...
i don't feel qualified to make the call of whether or not that life is worth living. i think life is unfair in general. it isn't ethical to kill something off on the grounds that it may be burdensome.


It is your kid though and you're going to be the ones taking care of it.

Oh ok. So my parents had every right to kill me when I was a rebellious teen?


were you a screaming non-verbal autist in your teens?

No

Abyssea posted...
It is your kid though and you're going to be the ones taking care of it.

This reasoning could be applied to anything though.
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TheVipaGTS
07/10/18 1:23:24 PM
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Something like that would put an incredible amount of stress on the parents and their relationship. Not to mention what kind of life would the child have? What happens after the parents pass on?
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catboy0_0
07/10/18 1:23:42 PM
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guys. I'm right here
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HotLap
07/10/18 1:24:50 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
guys. I'm right here


Please stop screaming, Daddy's trying to work.
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ThyCorndog
07/10/18 1:26:26 PM
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I'd want to abort but not in a make or break way. I'd let my wife decide and be ok with either decision
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SageHarpuia
07/10/18 1:28:11 PM
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This is Eugenics level stuff ITT

Like, how many people here are dehumanizing people with autism that also claim to be progressives?
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Pancake
07/10/18 1:28:17 PM
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You'd throw your life away just because you think you'd get used to it?

isn't like i was doing great things with it in the first place.
also, 'throw it away'? it sounds like you think i should think my life is simply worth more. i'd be like halfway done with it at that point anyway, wouldn't i?

why aren't you quoting? It's built-in now, and makes for much more pleasant reading

i think it's ugly and it still bloats scrolling even though they cut it down immensely.
besides -- this is how we used to do it. i'm not changing.
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Vindris_SNH
07/10/18 1:32:20 PM
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Pancake posted...
it isn't ethical to kill someone off on the grounds that they may be burdensome.

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Pancake
07/10/18 1:36:28 PM
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i agree with the edit, but i stand by my syntax. i don't mean to address a person as an 'it'. i just mean that in general -- killing something because it's a hassle is wrong.

So wait are you like those old ladies at the office who are 40% less productive because they still do things "the old way"

if the new way is clunky and ugly, sure.
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Pancake
07/10/18 1:39:39 PM
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To reduce a lifelong burden to a mere hassle is...interesting. Loaded.

it's harder for them than it is you.
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ThePrinceFish
07/10/18 1:42:54 PM
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At least you're honest enough to frame the abortion around making your own life easier rather than some self serving delusion about how the child would be better off never having a chance to live.
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