Current Events > Just stopped contributing to my company's 401k plan AMA

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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 9:32:40 AM
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Was contributing like 600 per month :(
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Ki_cat_
07/09/18 9:36:11 AM
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Why'd you contribute so much and stop?
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 9:37:44 AM
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Ki_cat_ posted...
Why'd you contribute so much and stop?


They manually took it out of my check every month and it was to get the matching stuff. I stopped because I plan on reforming my life and I dont like the path Im going right now.
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PoopPotato
07/09/18 9:38:37 AM
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What's the new plan of action?
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 9:40:37 AM
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PoopPotato posted...
What's the new plan of action?


Save my money, and use it to start my own business, start investing in real estate or flipping ****, etc
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mistalightbulb
07/09/18 9:42:39 AM
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you can give that money to me every month and i will invest it for you
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PoopPotato
07/09/18 9:44:23 AM
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Sounds good. Food trucks might be an option as well. Kids YouTube channels are pretty big right now too. Kinda strange how my kid ditched cartoons to watch other kids do shit on YouTube.
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 9:44:24 AM
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mistalightbulb posted...
you can give that money to me every month and i will invest it for you


Lol thats no different than a 401k
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 9:44:54 AM
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PoopPotato posted...
Sounds good. Food trucks might be an option as well. Kids YouTube channels are pretty big right now too. Kinda strange how my kid ditched cartoons to watch other kids do shit on YouTube.


My little sisters are always on YouTube watching that stuff lol
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clearaflagrantj
07/09/18 9:45:23 AM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
PoopPotato posted...
What's the new plan of action?


Save my money, and use it to start my own business, start investing in real estate or flipping ****, etc

So instead of getting tax free PLUS employer matching money and investing it in mutual funds that will double every 8-12 years and provide a massive nest egg for retirement you plan on taking out taxed money to throw it at risky bets and potentially lose everything.

Let's say you're in the 22% marginal tax bracket. You can either receive a dollar + the employer match for another $1 and invest it in a mutual fund where it will grow to $30 adjusted for inflation in 40 years, or you can take it out taxed and receive a measly 78 cents.
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AlecSkorpio
07/09/18 9:48:29 AM
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But Clear...

YOLO

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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 9:48:58 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
JBaLLEN66 posted...
PoopPotato posted...
What's the new plan of action?


Save my money, and use it to start my own business, start investing in real estate or flipping ****, etc

So instead of getting tax free PLUS employer matching money and investing it in mutual funds that will double every 8-12 years and provide a massive nest egg for retirement you plan on taking out taxed money to throw it at risky bets and potentially lose everything.

Let's say you're in the 22% marginal tax bracket. You can either receive a dollar + the employer match for another $1 and invest it in a mutual fund where it will grow to $30 adjusted for inflation in 40 years, or you can take it out taxed and receive a measly 78 cents.


Well I cant touch it till Im 65, and **** working in corporate America/investing life that long to settle for some mediocre retirement life Im not even guaranteed by Mother Nature or economy.
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clearaflagrantj
07/09/18 9:51:14 AM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
JBaLLEN66 posted...
PoopPotato posted...
What's the new plan of action?


Save my money, and use it to start my own business, start investing in real estate or flipping ****, etc

So instead of getting tax free PLUS employer matching money and investing it in mutual funds that will double every 8-12 years and provide a massive nest egg for retirement you plan on taking out taxed money to throw it at risky bets and potentially lose everything.

Let's say you're in the 22% marginal tax bracket. You can either receive a dollar + the employer match for another $1 and invest it in a mutual fund where it will grow to $30 adjusted for inflation in 40 years, or you can take it out taxed and receive a measly 78 cents.


Well I cant touch it till Im 65, and **** working in corporate America/investing life that long to settle for some mediocre retirement life Im not even guaranteed by Mother Nature or economy.

Google 72t loophole
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Returning_CEmen
07/09/18 9:51:26 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
JBaLLEN66 posted...
PoopPotato posted...
What's the new plan of action?


Save my money, and use it to start my own business, start investing in real estate or flipping ****, etc

So instead of getting tax free PLUS employer matching money and investing it in mutual funds that will double every 8-12 years and provide a massive nest egg for retirement you plan on taking out taxed money to throw it at risky bets and potentially lose everything.

Let's say you're in the 22% marginal tax bracket. You can either receive a dollar + the employer match for another $1 and invest it in a mutual fund where it will grow to $30 adjusted for inflation in 40 years, or you can take it out taxed and receive a measly 78 cents.

He wants to take matters into his own hands and not work for the man anymore. Sometimes you gotta take a bet on yourself.
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PoopPotato
07/09/18 9:52:19 AM
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The structured 9-5 life isn't suitable for everyone. If JBallen has the drive to succeed, he will succeed. And he gets to do it on his own terms. Why wait until retirement to enjoy life?
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mistalightbulb
07/09/18 9:55:51 AM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
mistalightbulb posted...
you can give that money to me every month and i will invest it for you


Lol thats no different than a 401k


oh it's plenty different, as the investment will be for me
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clearaflagrantj
07/09/18 9:56:17 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
He wants to take matters into his own hands and not work for the man anymore. Sometimes you gotta take a bet on yourself.

I'd rather bet on mutual funds so I get money by investing in literally every fucking company and bond in this country.

PoopPotato posted...
The structured 9-5 life isn't suitable for everyone. If JBallen has the drive to succeed, he will succeed. And he gets to do it on his own terms. Why wait until retirement to enjoy life?

Many people fail. If you live well within your means and save 30-70% of your income you can retire significantly early.

I live on 55% of my net income and if I continue at this level I will be able to retire by age 39.
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PoopPotato
07/09/18 10:00:22 AM
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Can't be afraid to fail. Even if he does fail, you just try again until you succeed.

Good for you for having and working on your goal of retiring at 39. That would be a big achievement.
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 10:03:10 AM
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I dont want to retire at 39. I either want to make **** ton of money to where I can buy me exotic cars and a castle or just live a minimalist non 9-5 corporate hellmerica life.
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TomNook20
07/09/18 10:34:12 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...

I live on 55% of my net income and if I continue at this level I will be able to retire by age 39.

How much do you expect to have by then? Plan to live frugally the rest of your life or is this a bet on bitcoin?
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iHuman
07/09/18 10:35:49 AM
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401ks are for suckers and are designed to keep you as a wage slave for 30 years

"hey in 30 or 40 years you'll have maybe a million dollars and maybe inflation won't make that completely worthless if you work for us for the rest of your life"
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JBaLLEN66
07/09/18 10:48:42 AM
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TomNook20 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...

I live on 55% of my net income and if I continue at this level I will be able to retire by age 39.

How much do you expect to have by then? Plan to live frugally the rest of your life or is this a bet on bitcoin?


Lol exactly
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clearaflagrantj
07/09/18 11:24:05 AM
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TomNook20 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...

I live on 55% of my net income and if I continue at this level I will be able to retire by age 39.

How much do you expect to have by then? Plan to live frugally the rest of your life or is this a bet on bitcoin?

That plan is assuming all of my crypto investments go to zero, I don't factor them in my retirement plans.

I could have ~$800,000 by 39 assuming no promotions/raises, which would allow me to withdraw roughly $30,000 annually.

I could always continue working past 39 if I wanted to increase my passive income. Tax free growth sees 7% after inflation, so doubling from $800K would only take a few additional years.

The slow boring method becomes powerful after a couple of decades
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clearaflagrantj
07/09/18 1:01:36 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
I live on 55% of my net income and if I continue at this level I will be able to retire by age 39.


Do your calculations account for future inflation? If not, you may be forced right back into Room 1408 (figuratively speaking) like so many others with your goal.

Yes it does account for inflation. 5% taxed growth and 7% tax free growth
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