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apolloooo
07/09/18 1:38:44 AM
#51:


This game has apollo's aproval all over it.

I havent played the dlc but bought it last year and it is more or lrss my goty
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 1:40:57 AM
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MordecaiRocks posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
I really enjoyed it, but only made it to the bad ending. Can't figure out what else to do after the traitor lord for the good endings and haven't gone back

Do you want light spoilers?

Sure, don't want to resort to a walkthrough but could use a push in the right direction

Collect 1800 essence and go back to where you got the dream Nail. This will involve fighting dream versions of the False Knight, the Broken Vessel and the Soul Master.

i just tried fighting the failed champion and let's just say I doubt I'm ever going to see one of the other endings lol

Failed Champion and the equivalent for Broken Vessel can somewhat effectively be face-tanked with a fully upgraded nail, Quick Slash, Fragile Strength (won't break in a dream), and defense charms of your choosing like Stalwart Shell or Quick Focus or whatnot. I just DPS-raced them and healed when they staggered, which was easier than trying to nail them mechanically. Dream version of Soul Master will require some precision, though it's mostly just a faster version of shit he already did.

That said, the third/best ending involves a boss harder than any of them IMO.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 1:43:51 AM
#53:


Also, it's funny how much easier almost everything in the game seems once you've beaten (endgame spoilers) Radiance, Nightmare King, and Path of Pain. I lost a few of my Steel Soul playthroughs to carelessness, but by and large, platforming segments and bosses that gave me fits the first time were like "yeah, okay, whatever, next" on my follow-up play because I just got that much better taking on the hardest of the hard material, even the Dream Bosses and the standard sections of White Palace.
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LordFarquad1312
07/09/18 2:23:56 AM
#54:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
I really enjoyed it, but only made it to the bad ending. Can't figure out what else to do after the traitor lord for the good endings and haven't gone back

Do you want light spoilers?

Sure, don't want to resort to a walkthrough but could use a push in the right direction

Collect 1800 essence and go back to where you got the dream Nail. This will involve fighting dream versions of the False Knight, the Broken Vessel and the Soul Master.

i just tried fighting the failed champion and let's just say I doubt I'm ever going to see one of the other endings lol

Failed Champion and the equivalent for Broken Vessel can somewhat effectively be face-tanked with a fully upgraded nail, Quick Slash, Fragile Strength (won't break in a dream), and defense charms of your choosing like Stalwart Shell or Quick Focus or whatnot. I just DPS-raced them and healed when they staggered, which was easier than trying to nail them mechanically. Dream version of Soul Master will require some precision, though it's mostly just a faster version of shit he already did.

That said, the third/best ending involves a boss harder than any of them IMO.

The final boss is a nightmare, because you have to fight the other final boss every time you die. I haven't played the DLC, but I hear there's a boss even thougher than that.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 2:31:34 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
LordFarquad1312 posted...
MordecaiRocks posted...
I really enjoyed it, but only made it to the bad ending. Can't figure out what else to do after the traitor lord for the good endings and haven't gone back

Do you want light spoilers?

Sure, don't want to resort to a walkthrough but could use a push in the right direction

Collect 1800 essence and go back to where you got the dream Nail. This will involve fighting dream versions of the False Knight, the Broken Vessel and the Soul Master.

i just tried fighting the failed champion and let's just say I doubt I'm ever going to see one of the other endings lol

Failed Champion and the equivalent for Broken Vessel can somewhat effectively be face-tanked with a fully upgraded nail, Quick Slash, Fragile Strength (won't break in a dream), and defense charms of your choosing like Stalwart Shell or Quick Focus or whatnot. I just DPS-raced them and healed when they staggered, which was easier than trying to nail them mechanically. Dream version of Soul Master will require some precision, though it's mostly just a faster version of shit he already did.

That said, the third/best ending involves a boss harder than any of them IMO.

The final boss is a nightmare, because you have to fight the other final boss every time you die. I haven't played the DLC, but I hear there's a boss even thougher than that.

Yeah, but its pretty easy to faceroll that first boss.

I found the DLC boss harder to learn and get down, but the true final boss is, IMO, still a little trickier. Theres no platforming element to the DLC boss, its just gitting gud at (insanely fast) patterns. The true final boss has both.
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UaStankAssMofo
07/09/18 2:33:58 AM
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Will prob try it out at some point though I'm usually hesitant to play indie Metroidvanias when I have actual Metroid games that are unfinished
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 2:37:25 AM
#57:


UaStankAssMofo posted...
Will prob try it out at some point though I'm usually hesitant to play indie Metroidvanias when I have actual Metroid games that are unfinished

FWIW I like it more than most actual Metroid games
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QueenCarly
07/09/18 3:11:50 AM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
UaStankAssMofo posted...
Will prob try it out at some point though I'm usually hesitant to play indie Metroidvanias when I have actual Metroid games that are unfinished

FWIW I like it more than most actual Metroid games


Yeah

Its better than all 2D Metroid games that aren't Super Metroid or Zero Mission
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Burnt_Puke82
07/09/18 3:17:27 AM
#59:


hmm...this game looks pretty damn fun actually. Man, I am so far behind on the games I want to play tho.

Looks like I'll be adding another to the list.
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CyricZ
07/09/18 9:16:57 AM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
A better answer would require knowing how many bosses you've killed total, probably.

Good point. I think I count 17 bosses beat, including "second rounds" against certain bosses.
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stone
07/09/18 9:29:30 AM
#61:


For those who don't want to pay full price (even if, as stated, it's only $15 and totally worth the full price) it goes on sale regularly at like 33% off. You get so many hours of gameplay for $10-15 that either way, it's worth it. (plus it's a great game, not just long, plenty of long games aren't worth their price tags)
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 10:30:46 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
A better answer would require knowing how many bosses you've killed total, probably.

Good point. I think I count 17 bosses beat, including "second rounds" against certain bosses.

Okay, you're probably like 2/3 through but the ones remaining are mostly the tougher ones.
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Tactical_Spork
07/09/18 6:39:15 PM
#63:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
@Tactical_Spork posted...
Ive been loving it on my first, blind, run but I fucked up an npc encounter by dying during text and now I wanna drop it or restart

OCD and anxiety disorders really make it hard to enjoy things :(

What was it? I'm curious.

The first guy you meet after going down, I firget his name. First encounter is at the egg.

I was fighting a wasp in the mantis village and hit up when I meant to hit left, triggering his dialogue; I died and he was gone. Then I learned I missed a whole encounter before that :(
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DeadSite
07/09/18 6:40:12 PM
#64:


I did and beat it a year ago.

Jfc can people stop bringing up this game like it's new
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Ki_cat_
07/09/18 7:21:56 PM
#65:


DeadSite posted...
I did and beat it a year ago.

Jfc can people stop bringing up this game like it's new


If it's coming to the Switch it's a brand new game. The previous ports are irrelevant.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 7:54:56 PM
#66:


Ki_cat_ posted...
DeadSite posted...
I did and beat it a year ago.

Jfc can people stop bringing up this game like it's new


If it's coming to the Switch it's a brand new game. The previous ports are irrelevant.

"If you didn't hear about this semi-obscure game a year ago, you should never talk about it ever and no one else should ever learn about it!!!!!!!"
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Ki_cat_
07/09/18 8:02:53 PM
#67:


Nah. Not what I'm saying at all :(.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 8:03:51 PM
#68:


That was more addressed at DeadSite tbh
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DeadSite
07/09/18 8:09:26 PM
#69:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
That was more addressed at DeadSite tbh

In what way is Hollow Knight obscure lmao
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stone
07/09/18 8:09:42 PM
#70:


Game might not be new, but it's still one of the best games I ever played, and I've been playing games for over 30 years.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 8:13:46 PM
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DeadSite posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
That was more addressed at DeadSite tbh

In what way is Hollow Knight obscure lmao

In the way that in every topic about it, a bunch of people are either like "thanks for the recommendation" or "I heard about this but never gave it a shot"?

What a weird-ass thing to be elitist about. "Hear about indie games on my timetable or not at all!"
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CyricZ
07/09/18 8:15:25 PM
#72:


Quirrel is the bro-est of bros.
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LordFarquad1312
07/09/18 8:19:12 PM
#73:


stone posted...
Game might not be new, but it's still one of the best games I ever played, and I've been playing games for over 30 years.

My man!

Altough I've been playing for about 25 myself.
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DeadSite
07/09/18 8:25:24 PM
#74:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
DeadSite posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
That was more addressed at DeadSite tbh

In what way is Hollow Knight obscure lmao

In the way that in every topic about it, a bunch of people are either like "thanks for the recommendation" or "I heard about this but never gave it a shot"?

What a weird-ass thing to be elitist about. "Hear about indie games on my timetable or not at all!"

Its an indie game that sold half a million copies in 2017.

Hardly obscure for anyone paying attention
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Leanaunfurled
07/09/18 8:25:49 PM
#75:


Imagine being butthurt about someone talking about a game they like.
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CyricZ
07/09/18 8:31:34 PM
#76:


DeadSite posted...
Hardly obscure for anyone paying attention

And yet I'll never shut up about the Yakuza series.
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DeadSite
07/09/18 8:33:47 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
Imagine being butthurt about someone talking about a game they like.

Not butthurt, just maybe be part of the convo a year ago when it came out. You don't see me making posts about buying Undertale

CyricZ posted...
DeadSite posted...
Hardly obscure for anyone paying attention

And yet I'll never shut up about the Yakuza series.

Great series though
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stone
07/09/18 8:35:05 PM
#78:


DeadSite posted...
Great series though

And Hollow Knight is a great game.
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thisisboris2
07/09/18 8:41:39 PM
#79:


the music for grimm is awesome
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stone
07/09/18 8:42:47 PM
#80:


thisisboris2 posted...
the music for grimm is awesome

Yeah it is. That alone made dying over and over again worth it.
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Leanaunfurled
07/09/18 8:48:42 PM
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DeadSite posted...
Not butthurt, just maybe be part of the convo a year ago when it came out. You don't see me making posts about buying Undertale

Who cares about either one of those? Apart from you.
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thisisboris2
07/09/18 8:55:00 PM
#82:


i just want to refight bosses

more specifically grimm
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stone
07/09/18 8:57:35 PM
#83:


thisisboris2 posted...
i just want to refight bosses

more specifically grimm

One of the best fights in the game. The first one was quite something.. But the second.. Wow
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IHeartRadiation
07/09/18 9:14:32 PM
#84:


I want to replay but I don't want to break more keys.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 9:43:39 PM
#85:


thisisboris2 posted...
i just want to refight bosses

more specifically grimm

Id love this

Hell, I couldnt even fight NKG on my Steel Completion second play because I was going for all the achievements and needed Banishment :(

NKG reminded me of another NK -- Nameless King from Dark Souls 3. You start off just getting relentlessly pummeled and killed in ten seconds, wondering how youre ever even going to get in a heal, let alone win... then slowly you start recognizing the patterns and opportunities to reliably sneak in heals and hits. Suddenly you not only beat him, but crush him; hes the one that can barely get a hit on you and youre almost in a trance. You beat him and you barely remember it happening.

Super rewarding boss design.
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MarqueeSeries
07/09/18 10:06:10 PM
#86:


I was making outstanding progress this time around, until I got to the 2nd Hornet fight

She's tearing me apart. I've tried spell buffing, tanking with thorns of agony, and a few other methods

The one I've had the most success with is Joni's Blessing. I've gotten okay at dodging her, but there's just no time to heal at all, so making it a war of attrition with more health seems to make the most sense to me

Idk, I've tried this boss at least 10 times now. Shits crazy
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 10:17:11 PM
#87:


MarqueeSeries posted...
I was making outstanding progress this time around, until I got to the 2nd Hornet fight

She's tearing me apart. I've tried spell buffing, tanking with thorns of agony, and a few other methods

The one I've had the most success with is Joni's Blessing. I've gotten okay at dodging her, but there's just no time to heal at all, so making it a war of attrition with more health seems to make the most sense to me

Idk, I've tried this boss at least 10 times now. Shits crazy

Keep your distance and let her come to you. Focus on dodging primarily and get a hit in where possible.

You can heal when she throws the needle if shes far enough away, when she suspends herself in the air, or when shes staggered. Could also try Quick Focus for faster heals.
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BignutzisBack
07/09/18 10:18:57 PM
#88:


I will buy it when it comes out on ps4 or when I get a switch for SMT 5
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Anisoptera
07/09/18 10:32:45 PM
#89:


MrMallard posted...
Two of my friends already have the game. I'm not big on the art style or the color palette.

Yeah. Really wish games would stop trying to be artistic. When you reach a certain age "artsy" games feel childish even when they have mature themes.
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DarthAragorn
07/09/18 10:35:02 PM
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Anisoptera posted...
MrMallard posted...
Two of my friends already have the game. I'm not big on the art style or the color palette.

Yeah. Really wish games would stop trying to be artistic. When you reach a certain age "artsy" games feel childish even when they have mature themes.

And then when you reach a later age you can appreciate a variety of styles again instead of needing everything to be grimdark realistic and edgy
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Mr_Biscuit
07/09/18 10:53:17 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Anisoptera posted...
MrMallard posted...
Two of my friends already have the game. I'm not big on the art style or the color palette.

Yeah. Really wish games would stop trying to be artistic. When you reach a certain age "artsy" games feel childish even when they have mature themes.

And then when you reach a later age you can appreciate a variety of styles again instead of needing everything to be grimdark realistic and edgy

Bingo. I cant imagine an age where beautiful animation makes me feel something is childish.

Actually, I can 15
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MordecaiRocks
07/09/18 11:00:27 PM
#92:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...
I was making outstanding progress this time around, until I got to the 2nd Hornet fight

She's tearing me apart. I've tried spell buffing, tanking with thorns of agony, and a few other methods

The one I've had the most success with is Joni's Blessing. I've gotten okay at dodging her, but there's just no time to heal at all, so making it a war of attrition with more health seems to make the most sense to me

Idk, I've tried this boss at least 10 times now. Shits crazy

Keep your distance and let her come to you. Focus on dodging primarily and get a hit in where possible.

You can heal when she throws the needle if shes far enough away, when she suspends herself in the air, or when shes staggered. Could also try Quick Focus for faster heals.

This. Even without quick focus I managed to squeeze in quite a few heals by going to the opposite corner as you're out of range of most of her attacks. Also, when the enemy is stunned you can go for a heal or two instead of attacking if you need to.
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CyricZ
07/10/18 9:25:28 PM
#93:


That thing you guys are talking about. Just did that. :) Hail to the King
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Mr_Biscuit
07/10/18 9:31:24 PM
#94:


CyricZ posted...
That thing you guys are talking about. Just did that. :) Hail to the King

Which part, just to be clear? Don't wanna spoil anything accidentally
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Turbam
07/10/18 9:32:33 PM
#95:


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GeneralKenobi85
07/10/18 9:40:49 PM
#96:


thisisboris2 posted...
i just want to refight bosses

more specifically grimm

The next update is heavily focused on boss battles. So far they showed a couple new ones and a new Hornet fight, so that leads me to believe we'll be fighting some other bosses from the base game. Might even come with a boss rush mode of some sort.
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CyricZ
07/10/18 9:54:12 PM
#97:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
CyricZ posted...
That thing you guys are talking about. Just did that. :) Hail to the King

Which part, just to be clear? Don't wanna spoil anything accidentally

The second fight with Hornet.
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Mr_Biscuit
07/10/18 11:21:09 PM
#98:


CyricZ posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...
CyricZ posted...
That thing you guys are talking about. Just did that. :) Hail to the King

Which part, just to be clear? Don't wanna spoil anything accidentally

The second fight with Hornet.

Ah gotcha. Congrats, and you're slowly starting your way towards the additional endings...
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prince_leo
07/10/18 11:24:44 PM
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LordFarquad1312
07/11/18 12:38:25 AM
#100:


prince_leo posted...
is it better to get on PC or Switch?

My PC sometimes struggled with the game, but it runs smoothly on the Switch. It crashed once last night tho.
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