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Fony 07/08/18 7:25:08 AM #1:	http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-austin-texas-fireworks-fatal-shooting-20180707-story.html Claims self defense, but cell phone video shows it was aggravated murder. Big tough white guy pulled a gun on some teens shooting off fireworks in a parking lot. His father, Tough white man Sr. gets tangled up with the teen and ends up on the ground. As the teen is trying to walk away, tough white man shoots him. Roche told police he had asked Ortiz and his friends to stop shooting off fireworks earlier that night, the affidavit stated. When they didn't, Roche said he confronted the group a second time then shot Ortiz after he said the teenager also reached for a gun, police said. It was a matter of self-defense. However, police would later review cellphone videos taken at the scene and discovered they told a different story. In the videos, Roche "is observed displaying a firearm at Ortiz, reholstering the firearm then displaying the firearm multiple times," the affidavit stated. "The video depicts Roche following Ortiz around the car and they argue with each other." Roche's father was also outside, police said, and attempted to intervene. Video footage showed Roche's father and Ortiz "engage in a verbal altercation and mutual shoving of each other," resulting in the elder Roche falling to the ground, the affidavit stated. It was then that Roche shot Ortiz, police said. Ortiz, it turns out, was not armed when he was shot and was "moving away from the firearm and not lunging toward it as stated by Roche," the affidavit stated. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:904694388] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-austin-texas-fireworks-fatal-shooting-20180707-story.html Claims self defense, but cell phone video shows it was aggravated murder. Big tough white guy pulled a gun on some teens shooting off fireworks in a parking lot. His father, Tough white man Sr. gets tangled up with the teen and ends up on the ground. As the teen is trying to walk away, tough white man shoots him. <quote>Roche told police he had asked Ortiz and his friends to stop shooting off fireworks earlier that night, the affidavit stated. When they didn't, Roche said he confronted the group a second time then shot Ortiz after he said the teenager also reached for a gun, police said. It was a matter of self-defense. However, police would later review cellphone videos taken at the scene and discovered they told a different story. In the videos, Roche "is observed displaying a firearm at Ortiz, reholstering the firearm then displaying the firearm multiple times," the affidavit stated. "The video depicts Roche following Ortiz around the car and they argue with each other." Roche's father was also outside, police said, and attempted to intervene. Video footage showed Roche's father and Ortiz "engage in a verbal altercation and mutual shoving of each other," resulting in the elder Roche falling to the ground, the affidavit stated. It was then that Roche shot Ortiz, police said. Ortiz, it turns out, was not armed when he was shot and was "moving away from the firearm and not lunging toward it as stated by Roche," the affidavit stated.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/08/18 7:27:26 AM #2:	Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:904694443] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/08/18 7:27:30 AM #3:	tl;dr racist guys don't want to let black teens celebrate the 4th of July, threaten them, murder one teen --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:904694445] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr racist guys don't want to let black teens celebrate the 4th of July, threaten them, murder one teen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/08/18 7:28:07 AM #4:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July? --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:904694461] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/08/18 7:31:50 AM #5:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? Because black person can be shot in the back , and if someone claims self-defense no matter the history of shooter s/he would be given the benefit of the doubt. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:904694531] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> Because black person can be shot in the back , and if someone claims self-defense no matter the history of shooter s/he would be given the benefit of the doubt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/08/18 7:32:14 AM #6:	gunplagirl posted... How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July? I do not know, but I'm willing to look at statistics that you or someone else provides. The original question still stands for TC. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:904694542] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July?</quote> I do not know, but I'm willing to look at statistics that you or someone else provides. The original question still stands for TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 07/08/18 7:35:56 AM #7:	Did the article mention their races, or are we basing it off their names? Links to video where we can hear the argument for any racial motivation? --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". <cite>Laserion posted [p:904694620] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>Did the article mention their races, or are we basing it off their names? Links to video where we can hear the argument for any racial motivation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/08/18 7:38:32 AM #8:	this is why that stand your ground law is bad. it makes people think they can get away with murder. every once in a while these cases keep popping up. like a guy that shot a teenager for loud music. or the old man that shot a man for talking in the theater (during the previews though. movie hadn't even started yet!) <cite>Zikten posted [p:904694669] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>this is why that stand your ground law is bad. it makes people think they can get away with murder. every once in a while these cases keep popping up. like a guy that shot a teenager for loud music. or the old man that shot a man for talking in the theater (during the previews though. movie hadn't even started yet!)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 07/08/18 7:39:51 AM #9:	Watch this guy get off free --- https://imgur.com/ymmqXXN https://imgur.com/5iNwXbV https://imgur.com/HSriaa3 https://imgur.com/xphiy45 <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:904694700] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>Watch this guy get off free</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 07/08/18 7:43:55 AM #10:	Zikten posted... this is why that stand your ground law is bad. it makes people think they can get away with murder. every once in a while these cases keep popping up. like a guy that shot a teenager for loud music. or the old man that shot a man for talking in the theater (during the previews though. movie hadn't even started yet!) I agree with gun rights, SYG and self defense personally. This was not self defense, the teen was not physically engaged with nor even approaching this coward. these cowards still would have killed those teens and lied about self defense. It's just that these days police actually investigate those incidents to find the truth. Blue_Dream87 posted... Watch this guy get off free He's charged with 1st degree murder, the whole thing was caught on tape, he's fucked. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:904694788] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>this is why that stand your ground law is bad. it makes people think they can get away with murder. every once in a while these cases keep popping up. like a guy that shot a teenager for loud music. or the old man that shot a man for talking in the theater (during the previews though. movie hadn't even started yet!)</quote> I agree with gun rights, SYG and self defense personally. This was not self defense, the teen was not physically engaged with nor even approaching this coward. these cowards still would have killed those teens and lied about self defense. It's just that these days police actually investigate those incidents to find the truth. <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>Watch this guy get off free</quote> He's charged with 1st degree murder, the whole thing was caught on tape, he's fucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/08/18 8:00:27 AM #11:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? It's not out of the scope of possibility/reality that it could have been racially motivated or stoked. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:904695138] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> It's not out of the scope of possibility/reality that it could have been racially motivated or stoked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClockworkHare 07/08/18 8:13:56 AM #12:	Kineth posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? It's not out of the scope of possibility/reality that it could have or have not been racially motivated or stoked. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/flcnpawn.png http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/06/05/84543589.gif <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:904695350] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> It's not out of the scope of possibility/reality that it could have or have not been racially motivated or stoked.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/08/18 10:07:21 AM #13:	ClockworkHare posted... Kineth posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? It's not out of the scope of possibility/reality that it could have or have not been racially motivated or stoked. That's an unnecessary addition to my statement since that was clearly implied. No fucking duh that it's possible that it could not have been that way. By saying that it's possibility that it could have gone such a way, that also means I'm acknowledging that it could possibly be something else. Your post literally added nothing. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:904698232] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClockworkHare posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> It's not out of the scope of possibility/reality that it could have or have not been racially motivated or stoked.</quote></quote> That's an unnecessary addition to my statement since that was clearly implied. No fucking duh that it's possible that it could not have been that way. By saying that it's possibility that it could have gone such a way, that also means I'm acknowledging that it could possibly be something else. Your post literally added nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 07/08/18 10:20:34 AM #14:	They don't like to see the guilty punished in these cases. The baseless arguing is just their way of protesting. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:904698632] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>They don't like to see the guilty punished in these cases. The baseless arguing is just their way of protesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 07/08/18 10:22:54 AM #15:	Nikki Carson, a spokeswoman for the Anderson County Sheriff's Office, said Friday that investigators are still trying to sort out what happened but have heard that the child and her father were in a vehicle and that he was throwing fireworks out of the car window in the moments before the shooting. https://www.independentmail.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/06/hunt-men-accused-shooting-anderson-3-year-old/762506002/ --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:904698703] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><quote> Nikki Carson, a spokeswoman for the Anderson County Sheriff's Office, said Friday that investigators are still trying to sort out what happened but have heard that the child and her father were in a vehicle and that he was throwing fireworks out of the car window in the moments before the shooting.</quote> https://www.independentmail.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/06/hunt-men-accused-shooting-anderson-3-year-old/762506002/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 07/08/18 10:24:25 AM #16:	MedzXVIII posted... https://www.independentmail.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/06/hunt-men-accused-shooting-anderson-3-year-old/762506002/ smh... --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:904698756] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.independentmail.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/06/hunt-men-accused-shooting-anderson-3-year-old/762506002/</quote> smh...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 07/08/18 10:24:32 AM #17:	Everything is racially motivated. --- If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all. <cite>muchdran posted [p:904698760] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>Everything is racially motivated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oh_Boy_ 07/08/18 10:27:06 AM #18:	It's more accurate than you guys desperately trying to deny that anything is ever racially motivated. Whites just happen to go apeshit for little to no reason on non-whites 1000% more than we do on each other by chance right? <cite>Oh_Boy_ posted [p:904698829] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>It's more accurate than you guys desperately trying to deny that anything is ever racially motivated. Whites just happen to go apeshit for little to no reason on non-whites 1000% more than we do on each other by chance right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/08/18 10:51:15 AM #19:	Blue_Dream87 posted... Watch this guy get off free i have news for him, i hope he never gets out and sees the light of day. i couldn't care less for the color of the skin on both sides this bastard deserves life in prison or the death penalty for what he committed and needs to own up to it on his end for the responsibility of his actions. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:904699616] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>Watch this guy get off free</quote> i have news for him, i hope he never gets out and sees the light of day. i couldn't care less for the color of the skin on both sides this bastard deserves life in prison or the death penalty for what he committed and needs to own up to it on his end for the responsibility of his actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
twitterfriends 07/08/18 10:59:12 AM #20:	Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid. --- #NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #Neblio #WolfPAC #Bitcoin #WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #DENT #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags <cite>twitterfriends posted [p:904699863] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 07/08/18 11:01:18 AM #21:	twitterfriends posted... Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid. Definitely. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:904699936] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>twitterfriends posted...</cite> <quote>Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid.</quote> Definitely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/08/18 11:02:18 AM #22:	twitterfriends posted... Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid. And the same people that are waiting for the facts would suddenly have no concern for investigating further into the situation. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:904699966] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>twitterfriends posted...</cite> <quote>Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid.</quote> And the same people that are waiting for the facts would suddenly have no concern for investigating further into the situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/08/18 11:03:41 AM #23:	Fony posted... They don't like to see the guilty punished in these cases. The baseless arguing is just their way of protesting. Not sure who you're talking about. I prefer the shooter get the death penalty. That is regardless of what skin color he is. I don't think the article even mentioned what race any of the parties were. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:904700014] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fony posted...</cite> <quote>They don't like to see the guilty punished in these cases. The baseless arguing is just their way of protesting.</quote> Not sure who you're talking about. I prefer the shooter get the death penalty. That is regardless of what skin color he is. I don't think the article even mentioned what race any of the parties were.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 07/08/18 11:04:11 AM #24:	twitterfriends posted... Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid. Sadly this --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:904700030] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>twitterfriends posted...</cite> <quote>Let's be real if it wasn't caught on camera he would have walked away easily for killing that kid.</quote> Sadly this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 07/08/18 11:22:02 AM #25:	gunplagirl posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July? Happened to me 7 years. Would be more if you didn't label it as teenage years. In other words shut the fuck up. Edit- was yelled at. I wasn't shot 7 years straight. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:904700626] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July?</quote> Happened to me 7 years. Would be more if you didn't label it as teenage years. In other words shut the fuck up. Edit- was yelled at. I wasn't shot 7 years straight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tainted_emerald 07/08/18 11:22:29 AM #26:	Fony posted... Zikten posted... this is why that stand your ground law is bad. it makes people think they can get away with murder. every once in a while these cases keep popping up. like a guy that shot a teenager for loud music. or the old man that shot a man for talking in the theater (during the previews though. movie hadn't even started yet!) I agree with gun rights, SYG and self defense personally. This was not self defense, the teen was not physically engaged with nor even approaching this coward. these cowards still would have killed those teens and lied about self defense. It's just that these days police actually investigate those incidents to find the truth. Blue_Dream87 posted... Watch this guy get off free He's charged with 1st degree murder, the whole thing was caught on tape, he's fucked. Bet he gets off with manslaughter and less than 20 years. --- "Evil is what you make of it. Bind it to a higher purpose and you would have altered its nature. We use what tools we must." - Gerald Tarrant <cite>tainted_emerald posted [p:904700642] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fony posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>this is why that stand your ground law is bad. it makes people think they can get away with murder. every once in a while these cases keep popping up. like a guy that shot a teenager for loud music. or the old man that shot a man for talking in the theater (during the previews though. movie hadn't even started yet!)</quote> I agree with gun rights, SYG and self defense personally. This was not self defense, the teen was not physically engaged with nor even approaching this coward. these cowards still would have killed those teens and lied about self defense. It's just that these days police actually investigate those incidents to find the truth. <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>Watch this guy get off free</quote> He's charged with 1st degree murder, the whole thing was caught on tape, he's fucked.</quote> Bet he gets off with manslaughter and less than 20 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/08/18 11:23:41 AM #27:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... gunplagirl posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July? Happened to me 7 years. Would be more if you didn't label it as teenage years. In other words shut the fuck up. I don't think that answers the question of "how often". --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:904700684] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July?</quote> Happened to me 7 years. Would be more if you didn't label it as teenage years. In other words shut the fuck up.</quote> I don't think that answers the question of "how often".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 07/08/18 11:41:29 AM #28:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? hey, hoth --- https://i.imgtc.com/IR4XrBA.gif https://i.imgtc.com/7X1rBRv.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:904701284] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> hey, hoth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 07/08/18 11:42:52 AM #29:	"When I heard this story, I was just like, are you kidding me?" Moore told The Post. "[Fireworks on the Fourth of July] is something we all just deal with for like 36 hours. For this guy to be so outraged ... I don't know. I can't wrap my head around it." this so fucking hard. guarantee you that fuck and his redneck dad were trump voters --- https://i.imgtc.com/IR4XrBA.gif https://i.imgtc.com/7X1rBRv.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:904701327] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>"When I heard this story, I was just like, are you kidding me?" Moore told The Post. "[Fireworks on the Fourth of July] is something we all just deal with for like 36 hours. For this guy to be so outraged ... I don't know. I can't wrap my head around it." this so fucking hard. guarantee you that fuck and his redneck dad were trump voters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 07/08/18 11:44:25 AM #30:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? Because people like TC only care about murder if its white on black --- To err is human To arr is pirate <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:904701376] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> Because people like TC only care about murder if its white on black</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/08/18 11:49:51 AM #31:	Bloodychess posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? Because people like TC only care about murder if its white on black This is a pretty scummy accusation. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:904701598] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> Because people like TC only care about murder if its white on black</quote> This is a pretty scummy accusation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/08/18 1:32:58 PM #32:	E32005 posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? hey, hoth Lol, I do not have alts. I am too lazy and uninterested in maintaining more than this one account. Or maybe you are implying that he too would be interested in why TC is race baiting? --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:904706131] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>E32005 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> hey, hoth</quote> Lol, I do not have alts. I am too lazy and uninterested in maintaining more than this one account. Or maybe you are implying that he too would be interested in why TC is race baiting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/08/18 7:17:59 PM #33:	It's both of those things I'd assume since Hoth is a scummy racist piece of shit. I don't care if I get modded for saying that. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:904723162] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>It's both of those things I'd assume since Hoth is a scummy racist piece of shit. I don't care if I get modded for saying that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad_Chad 07/08/18 7:22:38 PM #34:	fire works are what poor people use to forget the drudgery of day to day existence because they don't have butlers and ferraris and stuff --- Sup, brah?! <cite>Rad_Chad posted [p:904723396] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>fire works are what poor people use to forget the drudgery of day to day existence because they don't have butlers and ferraris and stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 07/08/18 7:24:34 PM #35:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... gunplagirl posted... How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July? I do not know, but I'm willing to look at statistics that you or someone else provides. The original question still stands for TC. The person you're responding to has never had a healthy relationship with factual information or statistics. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:904723482] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>How often are white teenagers shot or even yelled at for shooting off fireworks in a parking lot on the 4th of July?</quote> I do not know, but I'm willing to look at statistics that you or someone else provides. The original question still stands for TC.</quote> The person you're responding to has never had a healthy relationship with factual information or statistics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 07/08/18 7:26:59 PM #36:	lmao...the butt hurt PM's have begun --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:904723601] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>lmao...the butt hurt PM's have begun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/08/18 7:31:20 PM #37:	Bloodychess posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated? Because people like TC only care about murder if its white on black Just like you when the situation is black on white. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:904723798] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you mentioning that he is white? Was the shooting racially motivated?</quote> Because people like TC only care about murder if its white on black</quote> Just like you when the situation is black on white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 07/08/18 7:35:34 PM #38:	You guys get infuriated if someone mentions the perp is white or Asian. But if a criminal's race is mentioned and he's black you're no where to be found. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:904723994] in Tough whit... [t:76787626]...</cite> <quote>You guys get infuriated if someone mentions the perp is white or Asian. But if a criminal's race is mentioned and he's black you're no where to be found.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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