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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:06:28 PM
#51:


I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.
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Awesome
07/03/18 4:06:31 PM
#52:


thing is humans are animals and a lot of humans have no self control when it comes to sex and will do the most stupid things for the sake of pleasure. guy can invent a ship like in star wars then the same guy will bang 100 women in 1 night and get hiv.
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A_Good_Boy
07/03/18 4:07:21 PM
#53:


PanzerElite posted...
The system of having sex once you're married worked pretty well.

The problem is people treat sex like it's just any other fun activity. It's supposed to be a sacred thing.

Dogs don't enter into marriage contracts but they still manage to fuck all the same. The act of procreation doesn't seem all that sacred at all.
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Abyssea
07/03/18 4:07:42 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
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Heineken14
07/03/18 4:08:44 PM
#55:


Abyssea posted...
Heineken14 posted...
Abyssea posted...
It is the only 100% certain method of preventing unwanted pregnancy


Wasn't Mary a virgin when she got pregnant? I mean, isn't that the whole "Virgin Mary" thing?


that was a special situation. nothing can protect you if the lord decides to knock you up.


Then why do women scream "oh god, oh god, oh god" when they're going to pound town?

Checkmate, atheists.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/03/18 4:09:47 PM
#56:


KhanJohnny posted...
I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.

Its like women have a thing living inside them for 9-10 months that fucks up their body for a year or something while all men do is stick their dick inside and release.
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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:10:49 PM
#57:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.

Its like women have a thing living inside them for 9-10 months that fucks up their body for a year or something while all men do is stick their dick inside and release.

9-10 month commitment is nothing compared to almost 20 years of economic support.
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Abyssea
07/03/18 4:11:11 PM
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I think that if a guy doesn't want a girl to have an abortion they should be given the option to have the baby removed from the mom and implanted somewhere in the dad. Mpreg is the only way to ensure equal parental rights.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/03/18 4:12:28 PM
#59:


KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.

Its like women have a thing living inside them for 9-10 months that fucks up their body for a year or something while all men do is stick their dick inside and release.

9-10 month commitment is nothing compared to almost 20 years of economic support.

ROFL

Dude, your gimmick is bad. Suggest you get a new one. Maybe one with a little bit less of a MRA opinion.
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DarkTransient
07/03/18 4:12:38 PM
#60:


Encourage abstinence for much the reasons OP says. But acknowledge there will always be some who do it anyway, and for them, teach them how to be as safe as possible.
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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:12:52 PM
#61:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.

Its like women have a thing living inside them for 9-10 months that fucks up their body for a year or something while all men do is stick their dick inside and release.

9-10 month commitment is nothing compared to almost 20 years of economic support.

ROFL

Dude, your gimmick is bad. Suggest you get a new one. Maybe one with a little bit less of a MRA opinion.

Good argument
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/03/18 4:14:07 PM
#62:


PanzerElite posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
if you can't support a child together then you shouldn't have him

If you can't support a child then you shouldn't be having sex

i didn't know sex was solely for reproduction now
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sktgamer_13dude
07/03/18 4:14:22 PM
#63:


KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.

Its like women have a thing living inside them for 9-10 months that fucks up their body for a year or something while all men do is stick their dick inside and release.

9-10 month commitment is nothing compared to almost 20 years of economic support.

ROFL

Dude, your gimmick is bad. Suggest you get a new one. Maybe one with a little bit less of a MRA opinion.

Good argument

If a guy sticks his dick into a vagina, he best be prepared for any situation that happens. Theres multiple other ways for guys to get off that dont have a chance at pregnancy.
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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:15:11 PM
#64:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.

Its like women have a thing living inside them for 9-10 months that fucks up their body for a year or something while all men do is stick their dick inside and release.

9-10 month commitment is nothing compared to almost 20 years of economic support.

ROFL

Dude, your gimmick is bad. Suggest you get a new one. Maybe one with a little bit less of a MRA opinion.

Good argument

If a guy sticks his dick into a vagina, he best be prepared for any situation that happens. Theres multiple other ways for guys to get off that dont have a chance at pregnancy.

Oh so we should be practicing abstinence only, if we don't want to risk a kid?
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DarkTransient
07/03/18 4:15:22 PM
#65:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
PanzerElite posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
if you can't support a child together then you shouldn't have him

If you can't support a child then you shouldn't be having sex

i didn't know sex was solely for reproduction now


Skydiving isn't just for killing yourself, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't consider the very real possibility that it might happen and take measures to avoid it if you skydive anyway.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/03/18 4:16:56 PM
#66:


DarkTransient posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
PanzerElite posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
if you can't support a child together then you shouldn't have him

If you can't support a child then you shouldn't be having sex

i didn't know sex was solely for reproduction now


Skydiving isn't just for killing yourself, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't consider the very real possibility that it might happen and take measures to avoid it if you skydive anyway.

so we got a multitude of options when it comes to the parachute to your sex

condoms
birth control
iud
day after pill
supposedly male contraceptive pills are coming out
vasectomy (permanent solution)

when used together they are more effective
all of which feel better than not having sex

i can turn my stove on knowing i could get burned
i'm gonna have sex knowing i could get her pregnant
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sktgamer_13dude
07/03/18 4:17:51 PM
#67:


KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
I don't hate women at all, and really this has nothing to do with women, as such.

This is about an unequal distribution of rights and privileges within the relationship of reproductive partners.

In normal liberal logic, we attack wide disparities in power. However, when it comes to reproduction, women have all the power, such that a man can be forced to support a child he doesn't want, which happened purely accidentally (ie birth control failed), over his objections for nearly two decades. Alternatively, he may want the child and may believe that it is an inviolable human being and the woman, over his objection, can have that life utterly destroyed.

So men are hugely disadvantaged financially and emotionally under our reproductive laws.

Its like women have a thing living inside them for 9-10 months that fucks up their body for a year or something while all men do is stick their dick inside and release.

9-10 month commitment is nothing compared to almost 20 years of economic support.

ROFL

Dude, your gimmick is bad. Suggest you get a new one. Maybe one with a little bit less of a MRA opinion.

Good argument

If a guy sticks his dick into a vagina, he best be prepared for any situation that happens. Theres multiple other ways for guys to get off that dont have a chance at pregnancy.

Oh so we should be practicing abstinence only, if we don't want to risk a kid?

ITP: penis-vaginal sex is the only way to have sex.

Theres also things such as the pill, condoms, spermicide, IUDs, etc that can all be used together, to help make sure you dont reproduce.

Face the facts; shut the fuck up.
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Kisai
07/03/18 4:18:26 PM
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Why is CE replying such weak trolling?
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sktgamer_13dude
07/03/18 4:19:20 PM
#69:


Kisai posted...
Why is CE replying such weak trolling?

Im bored. Theres nothing on TV and Im waiting for England/Colombia to finish before I change the channel.
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CyricZ
07/03/18 4:20:09 PM
#70:


Anyone want to have sex?
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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:20:16 PM
#71:


sktgamer_13dude posted...

ITP: penis-vaginal sex is the only way to have sex.

Theres also things such as the pill, condoms, spermicide, IUDs, etc that can all be used together, to help make sure you dont reproduce.

Face the facts; shut the fuck up.

Penis-vaginal is the only real sex tbh

Lmao at this dude who thinks abstinence only is ridiculous, but men that don't want kids should go around only doing oral and using like 5 birth control methods at a time.

Yeah that's realistic

It would be easier not to fuck at all.
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HBOSS
07/03/18 4:21:50 PM
#72:


doesn't work because sex is natural and the academics in sex ed is outdated. doing anything sexual in nature often leads to more than just whats taught. this leaves students confused between religious doctrine and natural impulses. thus, leaves them wanting more. the teachers cater the curriculums about sex based of guidelines provided by an outdated school system.

simply, nature finds away if abstinence is used to resolve anything sexual. students are likely to find out more about sex from their curiosity + a willing partner or they can learn it on the internet where everything is sexualized.
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DarkTransient
07/03/18 4:22:24 PM
#73:


KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...

ITP: penis-vaginal sex is the only way to have sex.

Theres also things such as the pill, condoms, spermicide, IUDs, etc that can all be used together, to help make sure you dont reproduce.

Face the facts; shut the fuck up.

Penis-vaginal is the only real sex tbh

Lmao at this dude who thinks abstinence only is ridiculous, but men that don't want kids should go around only doing oral and using like 5 birth control methods at a time.

Yeah that's realistic

It would be easier not to fuck at all.


It's almost as if he's saying "you can do it, but you have to accept the risks that come with it".
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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:23:50 PM
#74:


DarkTransient posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...

ITP: penis-vaginal sex is the only way to have sex.

Theres also things such as the pill, condoms, spermicide, IUDs, etc that can all be used together, to help make sure you dont reproduce.

Face the facts; shut the fuck up.

Penis-vaginal is the only real sex tbh

Lmao at this dude who thinks abstinence only is ridiculous, but men that don't want kids should go around only doing oral and using like 5 birth control methods at a time.

Yeah that's realistic

It would be easier not to fuck at all.


It's almost as if he's saying "you can do it, but you have to accept the risks that come with it".

Except that only applies to men.

Women get an easy way out. They can abort the child, or they can enslave the man.

Men can be enslaved, or if they want the kid, sit back and watch it get murdered.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/03/18 4:24:23 PM
#75:


Abstinence only has shown to not work. Same with shit like DARE.

And yeah, implying that means to use all at once. Typically, IUDs work by themselves and the rest can all be paired with 1 other thing and it should be about 0% chance you wont have a baby.
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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:24:50 PM
#76:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Abstinence only has shown to not work. Same with shit like DARE.

And yeah, implying that means to use all at once. Typically, IUDs work by themselves and the rest can all be paired with 1 other things and it should be about 0% chance you wont have a baby.

Yep every couple is going to start using iuds now lmao
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sktgamer_13dude
07/03/18 4:26:25 PM
#77:


KhanJohnny posted...
DarkTransient posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...

ITP: penis-vaginal sex is the only way to have sex.

Theres also things such as the pill, condoms, spermicide, IUDs, etc that can all be used together, to help make sure you dont reproduce.

Face the facts; shut the fuck up.

Penis-vaginal is the only real sex tbh

Lmao at this dude who thinks abstinence only is ridiculous, but men that don't want kids should go around only doing oral and using like 5 birth control methods at a time.

Yeah that's realistic

It would be easier not to fuck at all.


It's almost as if he's saying "you can do it, but you have to accept the risks that come with it".

Except that only applies to men.

Women get an easy way out. They can abort the child, or they can enslave the man.

Men can be enslaved, or if they want the kid, sit back and watch it get murdered.

Holy shit. Your gimmicked worldview is fucking trash rofl.
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KhanJohnny
07/03/18 4:27:24 PM
#78:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
DarkTransient posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...

ITP: penis-vaginal sex is the only way to have sex.

Theres also things such as the pill, condoms, spermicide, IUDs, etc that can all be used together, to help make sure you dont reproduce.

Face the facts; shut the fuck up.

Penis-vaginal is the only real sex tbh

Lmao at this dude who thinks abstinence only is ridiculous, but men that don't want kids should go around only doing oral and using like 5 birth control methods at a time.

Yeah that's realistic

It would be easier not to fuck at all.


It's almost as if he's saying "you can do it, but you have to accept the risks that come with it".

Except that only applies to men.

Women get an easy way out. They can abort the child, or they can enslave the man.

Men can be enslaved, or if they want the kid, sit back and watch it get murdered.

Holy shit. Your gimmicked worldview is fucking trash rofl.

Good argument
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deupd_u
07/04/18 10:23:48 AM
#80:


There is no "sex ed." There is no one over the age of 12 who doesn't know how sex works, or what condom/BC pills are.
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RoboLaserGandhi
07/04/18 10:24:06 AM
#81:


Because kids are going to fuck regardless of whether you tell them not to. Even if you tell them they're going to have their genitals fall off they'll still go for it.

It's just an idealistic approach. Completely impractical and ignores some extremely basic human needs.
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KhanJohnny
07/04/18 10:43:28 AM
#82:


Asherlee10 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Good argument


There's nothing worth arguing. You have a misconstrued view of the world and have displayed unfounded opinions.

Prove those unfounded opinions wrong then.

Oh wait, it's Asherlee10. I'd rather be spared your childish sophistries.
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CyricZ
07/04/18 10:45:58 AM
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Why did this topic continue past Post 3?
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tremain07
07/04/18 10:50:30 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Why did this topic continue past Post 3?

Because CE can't stop taking bait from trolls from the political boards
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KhanJohnny
07/04/18 10:55:20 AM
#87:


Asherlee10 posted...
For starters, let's learn who your main account is.

Nice job immediately moving away from the arguments i put forward lmao
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Skye Reynolds
07/04/18 10:58:08 AM
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'Cause people wanna fuck.
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KhanJohnny
07/04/18 10:59:25 AM
#90:


Asherlee10 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
For starters, let's learn who your main account is.

Nice job immediately moving away from the arguments i put forward lmao


You think you'd get off that easy? I just like to know who I'm engaging first. Why are you hiding behind an alt?

I've already wasted enough time with your foolishness.
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masticatingman
07/04/18 11:04:45 AM
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Because if teens are just told they shouldnt have sex and not instructed on proper safe techniques, then youre basically just inviting them to engage in risky sex practices.
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Abyssea
07/05/18 11:13:25 AM
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I think we just need to find better ways to keep teens from having sex.
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donkeyjack
07/05/18 4:57:49 PM
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Abyssea posted...
I think we just need to find better ways to keep teens from having sex.


Dude, sex is natural. As long people are educated enough and well-equipped to keep themselves from spreading diseases and etc. Then it's fine.
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Megaman50100
07/05/18 5:03:21 PM
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Is this a 'boys will be boys' argument except it is 'humans will be humans'?
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07/06/18 11:21:08 AM
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 11:25:13 AM
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I agree that abstinence only sex ed does not work however I know someone who went to an inner city high school whos sex ed was a lot more educational than the city suburb school i went yet there was more girls pregnant at her school.
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 11:25:37 AM
#99:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Heineken14 posted...
Abyssea posted...
It is the only 100% certain method of preventing unwanted pregnancy


Wasn't Mary a virgin when she got pregnant? I mean, isn't that the whole "Virgin Mary" thing?

Okay, so apart from divine intervention or a turkey baster...

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