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FrisbeeDude
07/02/18 1:25:29 PM
#202:


If I were a student who did a project of this type, I wouldnt necessarily want other parents to have access to it. lots of bigoted parents with too much time on their hands
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JScriv
07/02/18 1:26:58 PM
#203:


Abyssea posted...
JScriv posted...
Look, Im just going off what I read in the article. I dont know what the Liberty Counsel is or their motives. Im just advocating for parental rights.


you should look into liberty counsel some more before you defend anything they put out. they're religious nutjobs who think American children are being turned into Islamists via the public school system.

I guess now they think they're gonna be gay islamists. :v

Im not defending Liberty Counsel. Im just using the same language that the article and the student said.
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MrPeppers
07/02/18 1:28:43 PM
#204:


_Squirtle_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
But it's a public school. There is no 'expectation of privacy' for curricula.


presentations from students are in a weird area

like if a class has a project and is required to view presentations from their peers(which is pretty common) and a student makes something that talks about how the pay gap is a myth or about lgbtq rights

does that mean the school forced students to learn misogynistic material or about gay people?

If a parent demanded to see those projects, I doubt the teacher would hand them over.


That depends entirely on whether or not the project is an expressed opinion solely of the presenting student, or if the school officially endorses the message. The behavior of the school from the article definitely makes it sound endorsed, in which case parents definitely have a right to at minimum view the content, regardless of its creators.
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Sephiroth1288
07/02/18 2:35:32 PM
#207:


FrisbeeDude posted...
If I were a student who did a project of this type, I wouldnt necessarily want other parents to have access to it. lots of bigoted parents with too much time on their hands

Yeah, in fact, we should just take all kids out of their parents' custody permanently since some of them could be bigots.
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darkmaian23
07/02/18 2:48:35 PM
#208:


FrisbeeDude posted...
If I were a student who did a project of this type, I wouldnt necessarily want other parents to have access to it. lots of bigoted parents with too much time on their hands


It's a good thing none of the other students or the teachers in the entire school that were forced to watch these clips are bigots either...
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Axiom
07/02/18 2:51:06 PM
#209:


UnfairRepresent posted...
targeted, planned, social engineering.

I'm sure this person loves gay people >_>
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Funbazooka
07/02/18 2:54:53 PM
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I wonder if the videos promoted shit like the HuffingtonPost is now:

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darkjedilink
07/02/18 3:00:52 PM
#212:


MrPeppers posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
But it's a public school. There is no 'expectation of privacy' for curricula.


presentations from students are in a weird area

like if a class has a project and is required to view presentations from their peers(which is pretty common) and a student makes something that talks about how the pay gap is a myth or about lgbtq rights

does that mean the school forced students to learn misogynistic material or about gay people?

If a parent demanded to see those projects, I doubt the teacher would hand them over.


That depends entirely on whether or not the project is an expressed opinion solely of the presenting student, or if the school officially endorses the message. The behavior of the school from the article definitely makes it sound endorsed, in which case parents definitely have a right to at minimum view the content, regardless of its creators.

If they included it in their school-wide anti-bullying campaign as part of Pride, as stated in the article, they officially endorsed the message.
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Broken_Zeus
07/02/18 3:17:18 PM
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Pretty fucked up of the school to go along with that.

Not to mention the fact that, as the US falls behind the rest of the world academically, precious school time is being wasted on this shit. The countries whose students will someday become our nation's programmers, scientists, doctors, etc, -- you know, jobs that used to go to Americans -- don't bother with this.

frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Liberty Counsel is threatening legal action unless the school district provides the videos to parents.


*facepalm*

We're going to take up court time for stuff like this now?


"We're going to take up time in courts over civil liberties issues?" >_>
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creativerealms
07/02/18 3:27:33 PM
#214:


Broken_Zeus posted...
Pretty fucked up of the school to go along with that.

Not to mention the fact that, as the US falls behind the rest of the world academically, precious school time is being wasted on this shit. The countries whose students will someday become our nation's programmers, scientists, doctors, etc, -- you know, jobs that used to go to Americans -- don't bother with this.

frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Liberty Counsel is threatening legal action unless the school district provides the videos to parents.


*facepalm*

We're going to take up court time for stuff like this now?


"We're going to take up time in courts over civil liberties issues?" >_>
we are falling behind other countries in education because we have people like the liberty counsel who are agianst actual science. It's because they try to sneak creationism into the classroom.

It's not gender equality and LGBT crap that's holding us back it's people who believe the Bible is the only science book in the world that are holding us back.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 3:27:36 PM
#215:


Asherlee10 posted...
1. What is "QUILTBAG"? - I don't get it. Are you trying to suggest that 'people of faith' should ignore the existence of LGBT people? Are you saying that 'people of faith' should get some sort special privilege to violate the rights of student-created work?
Nobody is suggesting that people 'Ignore the existence of QUILTBAG people', you assumed that all on your own.
People of all types of faiths, ideologies, & beliefs can live with the existence of people who don't agree with each other, we do it all the time as a Human society.

What violation was there? Inspecting the content that the students compiled together to broadcast isn't a "Violation" of their created work.
The parents didn't request any changes, edits, extra commentary to be inserted. They just want to examine the content and see if it's fit for their child.
If the Parent doesn't approve, their child can "Opt out". This isn't a new concept, it's a very old concept.

Part of Parenting is determining what content their children is fit to view. That's Parenting 101.
This is beyond "People of Faith". This is ALL PARENTS who's children attend the school gets the exact same rights to inspect the content and have a say as to what their children will participate in or view given their rights as the parent. Parents have a personal responsibility to educate their children on Morality & Sexuality as they see fit.
The role of the school ends when it comes to potentially contentious subject matter. Parents can't stop the school from showing said "Contentious Subject" matter, but Parents should definitely have the ability to be notified ahead of time and be given the legal right to "Opt Out" of said lessons.

2. What does 'secular morality' have to with not violating the privacy of student-created work? It seems like you are attempting to insult me, personally, here.
What privacy is violated by inspecting a bunch of compiled video clips they grabbed off the internet? The fact that it's a set of compilation of clips they gathered from several sources that should be easily accessible on the internet, but the fact that they don't want to reveal which clips it is creates this controversy.

Transparency is what you generally want to advocate for, right? The US Governments Shadow Court with it's Shadow Laws & Lawyers is a farce. We can both agree on that concept, right? So why is asking for Transparency to be "Shown to the Parents" such a scary thing to you? Is there something to hide?

It's not meant to insult you. But your views on 'Secular Morality' seems to have a "Ends Justify the Means" attitudes of teaching every student your Point of View in a Public Education sphere when the subject matter agrees with your personal politics.

To hell with anybody that disagrees with 'me' because I'm "Secular" and everybody else is either a Religious Nut that doesn't agree with me or a Bigot of some sort in your PoV. That's why they won't have their children participate in your chosen lessons to be taught. Any answer other than that isn't really acceptable to your PoV on said "Subject that agrees with your Personal Ideology".

Any attempt to teach a balanced "Other Point of View" by a group that differs from your PoV is to be censored, shut down, protested against, and destroyed at all costs from where I've witnessed.

This is why there are so many people who are wary of the term 'Secular Morality'. It's used as a smug justification for a "I'm always right and you Parents need to just shut up and let me teach your kids everything I believe is correct". Screw the Parents PoV since they are most likely wrong from my PoV.

There's a good reason why a large chunk of the US is wary of Public Schools, and this type of Anti-Transparency isn't helping!
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Abyssea
07/02/18 3:28:39 PM
#216:


Broken_Zeus posted...
Not to mention the fact that, as the US falls behind the rest of the world academically, precious school time is being wasted on this shit. The countries whose students will someday become our nation's programmers, scientists, doctors, etc, -- you know, jobs that used to go to Americans -- don't bother with this.


yes, all that precious school time that happens during the morning announcements... oh boy
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creativerealms
07/02/18 3:30:47 PM
#217:


ClunkerSlim posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I was told by the superintendent (that) parents have no right to view these videos, one person said in documents provided by Liberty Counsel.

Sue the fuck out of that school. I don't care where you fall on this issue. No school has the right to refuse to tell you what they're teaching your kids.

The liberty counsel are known liars and so the truth is probably very different from what they reported.

Sorry but we have a far right nut job reporting about the complaints of a far right Christian hate group. I need more to believe this story.
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Raikuro
07/02/18 3:34:08 PM
#218:


Abyssea posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
Not to mention the fact that, as the US falls behind the rest of the world academically, precious school time is being wasted on this shit. The countries whose students will someday become our nation's programmers, scientists, doctors, etc, -- you know, jobs that used to go to Americans -- don't bother with this.


yes, all that precious school time that happens during the morning announcements... oh boy

I remember several precious hours wasted on mandatory pep rallys when I was in school. What does Zeus think about those?
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 3:35:16 PM
#219:


3. I think this part is unclear due to a bias in the article. I would be willing to bet that students could have opted out of the event just like they can for 99% of other assemblies.
If that's the case, then why was the child complaining about:
My son expressed to me that he felt bullied by the administration for being a heterosexual man and being forced to listen to LGBT advocacy on a daily basis, one parent wrote in a letter to the school district.The content was forced on the child for 4 days! If he was able to opt out, he wouldn't have participated or felt bullied by the administration.

Even with that being the case, this is still student-created work and value has been placed on their privacy. I don't think that's unreasonable, yet.
So compiling a bunch of videos doesn't trump a parents ability to be able to inspect the content to see if it's fit for their child.

You can't use that to prevent access by said parents. Otherwise that would be one of the biggest loop holes to hide behind.
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Abyssea
07/02/18 3:36:50 PM
#220:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
3. I think this part is unclear due to a bias in the article. I would be willing to bet that students could have opted out of the event just like they can for 99% of other assemblies.
If that's the case, then why was the child complaining about:
My son expressed to me that he felt bullied by the administration for being a heterosexual man and being forced to listen to LGBT advocacy on a daily basis, one parent wrote in a letter to the school district.The content was forced on the child for 4 days! If he was able to opt out, he wouldn't have participated or felt bullied by the administration.

Even with that being the case, this is still student-created work and value has been placed on their privacy. I don't think that's unreasonable, yet.
So compiling a bunch of videos doesn't trump a parents ability to be able to inspect the content to see if it's fit for their child.

You can't use that to prevent access by said parents. Otherwise that would be one of the biggest loop holes to hide behind.


You're getting awfully riled up about a story that might be completely made up by the liberty counsel.
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 3:45:14 PM
#221:


creativerealms posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
Pretty fucked up of the school to go along with that.

Not to mention the fact that, as the US falls behind the rest of the world academically, precious school time is being wasted on this shit. The countries whose students will someday become our nation's programmers, scientists, doctors, etc, -- you know, jobs that used to go to Americans -- don't bother with this.

frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Liberty Counsel is threatening legal action unless the school district provides the videos to parents.


*facepalm*

We're going to take up court time for stuff like this now?


"We're going to take up time in courts over civil liberties issues?" >_>
we are falling behind other countries in education because we have people like the liberty counsel who are agianst actual science. It's because they try to sneak creationism into the classroom.

It's not gender equality and LGBT crap that's holding us back it's people who believe the Bible is the only science book in the world that are holding us back.

You realize that the videos reportedly were also anti-science, right?
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 3:46:35 PM
#222:


Abyssea posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
3. I think this part is unclear due to a bias in the article. I would be willing to bet that students could have opted out of the event just like they can for 99% of other assemblies.
If that's the case, then why was the child complaining about:
My son expressed to me that he felt bullied by the administration for being a heterosexual man and being forced to listen to LGBT advocacy on a daily basis, one parent wrote in a letter to the school district.The content was forced on the child for 4 days! If he was able to opt out, he wouldn't have participated or felt bullied by the administration.

Even with that being the case, this is still student-created work and value has been placed on their privacy. I don't think that's unreasonable, yet.
So compiling a bunch of videos doesn't trump a parents ability to be able to inspect the content to see if it's fit for their child.

You can't use that to prevent access by said parents. Otherwise that would be one of the biggest loop holes to hide behind.


You're getting awfully riled up about a story that might be completely made up by the liberty counsel.

Were the quotes by the Superintendent made up, too?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/02/18 3:52:00 PM
#223:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
If I were a student who did a project of this type, I wouldnt necessarily want other parents to have access to it. lots of bigoted parents with too much time on their hands

Yeah, in fact, we should just take all kids out of their parents' custody permanently since some of them could be bigots.


Actually, we should sterilize the entire human race so it goes extinct! ha! I out-overreacted you! :)
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 3:53:57 PM
#224:


Abyssea posted...
You're getting awfully riled up about a story that might be completely made up by the liberty counsel.
You're getting awfully defensive about a simple problem that can be VERY EASILY resolved by showing the content to the parents.

It's not a big ask to demand Transparency from the School to show the Parents.

The Parents aren't asking for Editorial, Critiquing, or Commentary rights over the Students works; just the right to view said content and deem it appropriate for their child. This is no different from any parent out there.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/02/18 3:54:03 PM
#225:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
1. What is "QUILTBAG"? - I don't get it. Are you trying to suggest that 'people of faith' should ignore the existence of LGBT people? Are you saying that 'people of faith' should get some sort special privilege to violate the rights of student-created work?
Nobody is suggesting that people 'Ignore the existence of QUILTBAG people', you assumed that all on your own.
People of all types of faiths, ideologies, & beliefs can live with the existence of people who don't agree with each other, we do it all the time as a Human society.

What violation was there? Inspecting the content that the students compiled together to broadcast isn't a "Violation" of their created work.
The parents didn't request any changes, edits, extra commentary to be inserted. They just want to examine the content and see if it's fit for their child.
If the Parent doesn't approve, their child can "Opt out". This isn't a new concept, it's a very old concept.

Part of Parenting is determining what content their children is fit to view. That's Parenting 101.
This is beyond "People of Faith". This is ALL PARENTS who's children attend the school gets the exact same rights to inspect the content and have a say as to what their children will participate in or view given their rights as the parent. Parents have a personal responsibility to educate their children on Morality & Sexuality as they see fit.
The role of the school ends when it comes to potentially contentious subject matter. Parents can't stop the school from showing said "Contentious Subject" matter, but Parents should definitely have the ability to be notified ahead of time and be given the legal right to "Opt Out" of said lessons.

2. What does 'secular morality' have to with not violating the privacy of student-created work? It seems like you are attempting to insult me, personally, here.
What privacy is violated by inspecting a bunch of compiled video clips they grabbed off the internet? The fact that it's a set of compilation of clips they gathered from several sources that should be easily accessible on the internet, but the fact that they don't want to reveal which clips it is creates this controversy.

Transparency is what you generally want to advocate for, right? The US Governments Shadow Court with it's Shadow Laws & Lawyers is a farce. We can both agree on that concept, right? So why is asking for Transparency to be "Shown to the Parents" such a scary thing to you? Is there something to hide?

It's not meant to insult you. But your views on 'Secular Morality' seems to have a "Ends Justify the Means" attitudes of teaching every student your Point of View in a Public Education sphere when the subject matter agrees with your personal politics.

To hell with anybody that disagrees with 'me' because I'm "Secular" and everybody else is either a Religious Nut that doesn't agree with me or a Bigot of some sort in your PoV. That's why they won't have their children participate in your chosen lessons to be taught. Any answer other than that isn't really acceptable to your PoV on said "Subject that agrees with your Personal Ideology".

Any attempt to teach a balanced "Other Point of View" by a group that differs from your PoV is to be censored, shut down, protested against, and destroyed at all costs from where I've witnessed.

This is why there are so many people who are wary of the term 'Secular Morality'. It's used as a smug justification for a "I'm always right and you Parents need to just shut up and let me teach your kids everything I believe is correct". Screw the Parents PoV since they are most likely wrong from my PoV.

There's a good reason why a large chunk of the US is wary of Public Schools, and this type of Anti-Transparency isn't helping!


With that no-logic capitalization, you must literally be donald trump.
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Abyssea
07/02/18 3:55:18 PM
#226:


darkjedilink posted...
Were the quotes by the Superintendent made up, too?


If they came to you via the Liberty Counsel, possibly.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 3:56:41 PM
#227:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
With that no-logic capitalization, you must literally be donald trump.
So my unique "Capitalization Tendencies" that is unique to ME & only ME; somehow that makes me "Donald Trump"?

WTF kind of leap in logic brought you to connect those two things together?
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Silver Bearings
07/02/18 3:59:40 PM
#228:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
With that no-logic capitalization, you must literally be donald trump.

Wow! This is a revolutionary view to add to the discussion! Thank you!
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 4:01:03 PM
#229:


Silver Bearings posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
With that no-logic capitalization, you must literally be donald trump.

Wow! This is a revolutionary view to add to the discussion! Thank you!
If I was Donald Trump, I would be far more inflammatory, I wouldn't waste time on GameFAQs, and I would be on twitter.

I doubt Donald Trump has even heard of GameFAQs much less have an account as old as mine.
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Funbazooka
07/02/18 4:01:59 PM
#230:


Who ever heard of SJWs trying to brainwash people? This story sounds so unbelievable!
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FrisbeeDude
07/02/18 4:23:01 PM
#231:


imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 4:27:09 PM
#232:


FrisbeeDude posted...
imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.

How do we know that's the message if we can't see the video?
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creativerealms
07/02/18 4:28:57 PM
#233:


Says a far right Christian based hate group known to lie about the LGBT community.

Give me a link not from a far right not job.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/02/18 5:09:25 PM
#235:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
With that no-logic capitalization, you must literally be donald trump.
So my unique "Capitalization Tendencies" that is unique to ME & only ME; somehow that makes me "Donald Trump"?

WTF kind of leap in logic brought you to connect those two things together?


Have you not read stuff he posts on twitter?
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 5:12:21 PM
#236:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Have you not read stuff he posts on twitter?
NO! Why on Earth would I waste my time reading his drivel?
There are better things to do then to read his literal "Trolling" of the World that he spews upon the world every other day.

I'm sure you can find better things to do with your time then reading that garbage.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/02/18 5:33:07 PM
#237:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Have you not read stuff he posts on twitter?
NO! Why on Earth would I waste my time reading his drivel?
There are better things to do then to read his literal "Trolling" of the World that he spews upon the world every other day.

I'm sure you can find better things to do with your time then reading that garbage.


Fair point. Read was the wrong word, my bad. I should have said skimmed or looked at. The capitalization he uses for no reason jumps out, so reading isn't required.
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FrisbeeDude
07/02/18 5:38:35 PM
#238:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.

How do we know that's the message if we can't see the video?


They told you the message. Bigoted parents just want their "suspicions" confirmed. Why placate them at the expense of the creators?

Some parents dont believe in the LGBTQ community and the advocacy work they do. Tough shit.
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Suspiria
07/02/18 5:41:39 PM
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Time to start home schooling kids now.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 6:01:44 PM
#240:


FrisbeeDude posted...
They told you the message. Bigoted parents just want their "suspicions" confirmed. Why placate them at the expense of the creators?

Some parents dont believe in the LGBTQ community and the advocacy work they do. Tough shit.
And that's why the School SHOULD show the parents the content.

If there is nothing to "Hide", then why are they going out of their way to deny the parents a very simple request?

You're literally giving them ammunition to justify their feelings about the QUILTBAG community.
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UnfairRepresent
07/02/18 6:04:18 PM
#241:


KamenRiderBlade posted...


If there is nothing to "Hide", then why are they going out of their way to deny the parents a very simple request?

Because it's the students project.

Parents don't just get to read other kids' stuff, that's horrible
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 6:10:19 PM
#242:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.

How do we know that's the message if we can't see the video?

They told you the message. Bigoted parents just want their "suspicions" confirmed. Why placate them at the expense of the creators?

Some parents dont believe in the LGBTQ community and the advocacy work they do. Tough shit.

Because schools have never, ever lied, right?
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 6:10:49 PM
#243:


UnfairRepresent posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...


If there is nothing to "Hide", then why are they going out of their way to deny the parents a very simple request?

Because it's the students project.

Parents don't just get to read other kids' stuff, that's horrible

The YouTube videos they spliced together are public.
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tri sapphire
07/02/18 6:11:38 PM
#244:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Abyssea posted...
You're getting awfully riled up about a story that might be completely made up by the liberty counsel.
You're getting awfully defensive about a simple problem that can be VERY EASILY resolved by showing the content to the parents.

It's not a big ask to demand Transparency from the School to show the Parents.

The Parents aren't asking for Editorial, Critiquing, or Commentary rights over the Students works; just the right to view said content and deem it appropriate for their child. This is no different from any parent out there.

Just imagine if all student presentations/speeches/papers had to be reviewed by all parents before being shown/discussed in class.

Don't you see how fucking idiotic this would be? But according to you it's necessary, since some kid might do a speech on why the Confederacy was bad, which might offend those who grew up in the south.

It having to do with sexuality/gender is 100% unrelated. Such subjects are lawfully taught in schools with zero parental input/notification.

Presentations like this are probably common in health ed classes by some students, without any choice being given to other students in the class to cut class because it offends them.
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UnfairRepresent
07/02/18 6:13:02 PM
#245:


darkjedilink posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...


If there is nothing to "Hide", then why are they going out of their way to deny the parents a very simple request?

Because it's the students project.

Parents don't just get to read other kids' stuff, that's horrible

The YouTube videos they spliced together are public.

How do you know? You never saw what they made
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FrisbeeDude
07/02/18 6:14:50 PM
#246:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.

How do we know that's the message if we can't see the video?

They told you the message. Bigoted parents just want their "suspicions" confirmed. Why placate them at the expense of the creators?

Some parents dont believe in the LGBTQ community and the advocacy work they do. Tough shit.

Because schools have never, ever lied, right?


what do you think they're showing them that they dont want to show the parents? I'm asking for your personal opinion? if the videos are such public access, couldnt the kids who felt "bullied" simply tell their parents what videos they are?
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 6:16:13 PM
#247:


tri sapphire posted...
Just imagine if all student presentations/speeches/papers had to be reviewed by all parents before being shown/discussed in class.

Don't you see how fucking idiotic this would be? But according to you it's necessary, since some kid might do a speech on why the Confederacy was bad, which might offend those who grew up in the south.

It having to do with sexuality/gender is 100% unrelated. Such subjects are lawfully taught in schools with zero parental input/notification.

Presentations like this are probably common in health ed classes by some students, without any choice being given to other students in the class to cut class because it offends them.
When I was a kid, the "Sex Ed" course was required to have a Parent Approval form and they were notified a week in advance. Literally 1/3 of my class went to the Cafeteria during "Sex Ed" so that they would "Opt Out" because of the parents request.

Anything Controversial was required to "Notify the Parents" first and have them sign approval forms.

So no, it's not idiotic. It's called having common decency to inform parents on topics that may be "Controversial".

And any "Gender" courses didn't even exist when I went to school.
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 6:16:14 PM
#248:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.

How do we know that's the message if we can't see the video?

They told you the message. Bigoted parents just want their "suspicions" confirmed. Why placate them at the expense of the creators?

Some parents dont believe in the LGBTQ community and the advocacy work they do. Tough shit.

Because schools have never, ever lied, right?


what do you think they're showing them that they dont want to show the parents? I'm asking for your personal opinion? if the videos are such public access, couldnt the kids who felt "bullied" simply tell their parents what videos they are?

They want the links to the videos. That's literally the whole issue.
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FrisbeeDude
07/02/18 6:17:23 PM
#249:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.

How do we know that's the message if we can't see the video?

They told you the message. Bigoted parents just want their "suspicions" confirmed. Why placate them at the expense of the creators?

Some parents dont believe in the LGBTQ community and the advocacy work they do. Tough shit.

Because schools have never, ever lied, right?


what do you think they're showing them that they dont want to show the parents? I'm asking for your personal opinion? if the videos are such public access, couldnt the kids who felt "bullied" simply tell their parents what videos they are?

They want the links to the videos. That's literally the whole issue.


they're public access. theres no kid savvy enough to use google?
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 6:21:03 PM
#250:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
imagine thinking students should be able to opt out of an anti bullying campaign lmao they were right not to show the parents. hell, look who they ran to for legal consuel. if you don't want your children to learn to to be decent human beings and accepting of the LGBTQ community, home school them.

How do we know that's the message if we can't see the video?

They told you the message. Bigoted parents just want their "suspicions" confirmed. Why placate them at the expense of the creators?

Some parents dont believe in the LGBTQ community and the advocacy work they do. Tough shit.

Because schools have never, ever lied, right?


what do you think they're showing them that they dont want to show the parents? I'm asking for your personal opinion? if the videos are such public access, couldnt the kids who felt "bullied" simply tell their parents what videos they are?

They want the links to the videos. That's literally the whole issue.

they're public access. theres no kid savvy enough to use google?

Why should they have to, when tye school has the links?
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SageHarpuia
07/02/18 6:22:38 PM
#251:


And they wonder why homeschooling is not only becoming more popular, but also why homeschoolers vastly outperform public school students.
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