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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 8:21:37 AM
#51:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
YES the school should have been more transparent but there is nothing inherently wrong with showing kids material with new progressive ideas about gender and sex

(this all changes if the material is actually inflammatory but I wonder if any reasonable teacher or admin staff would allow that to happen - rarely are these videos as insulting toward straight people as they like to exaggerate)
In "Elementary School" levels? How many parents would you think they would find that content acceptable at that age?

What next, teach "Reproduction, sex, along with full blown Sexual Intercourse" at grades K-6?

Would you as a parent approve of that at that age?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/02/18 8:40:44 AM
#52:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
In "Elementary School" levels? How many parents would you think they would find that content acceptable at that age?

What next, teach "Reproduction, sex, along with full blown Sexual Intercourse" at grades K-6?

Would you as a parent approve of that at that age?

i find it interesting that you are able to conflate "sexuality and gender" with "full blown sexual intercourse."
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Master_Bass
07/02/18 8:42:20 AM
#53:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
YES the school should have been more transparent but there is nothing inherently wrong with showing kids material with new progressive ideas about gender and sex

(this all changes if the material is actually inflammatory but I wonder if any reasonable teacher or admin staff would allow that to happen - rarely are these videos as insulting toward straight people as they like to exaggerate)
In "Elementary School" levels? How many parents would you think they would find that content acceptable at that age?

What next, teach "Reproduction, sex, along with full blown Sexual Intercourse" at grades K-6?

Would you as a parent approve of that at that age?

I believe kids are usually taught about sex sometime in grades 4-6 these days.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/02/18 8:43:06 AM
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I remember learning about reproductive organs in the 4th grade
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 8:43:55 AM
#55:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
i find it interesting that you are able to conflate "sexuality and gender" with "full blown sexual intercourse."
It doesn't matter how I feel about the subject. All of that is a touchy subject for Parents. Even you should know that by now.

At that age, in those grades; Children are not ready for that type of content.

And it's not up to you, the activist to decide for the parents what content is appropriate for their children.

Their parents have a legal right to decide that, along with what age their kids should learn about said content.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 8:44:48 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
I believe kids are usually taught about sex sometime in grades 4-6 these days.
Not during my generation, we were taught in 7-8 about it.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/02/18 8:47:04 AM
#57:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
All of that is a touchy subject for Parents. Even you should know that by now.

At that age, in those grades; Children are not ready for that type of content.

Join the 21st century please

Studies and practices have shown that students are far better equipped to handle these things at an early age than we previously thought
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/02/18 8:47:59 AM
#58:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
And it's not up to you, the activist to decide for the parents what content is appropriate for their children.

Their parents have a legal right to decide that, along with what age their kids should learn about said content.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Imagine having that privilege, to be able to remove yourself from the situation if you find it uncomfortable
Having that taken away from them probably hurt their precious feelings

We see it time and time again, the certain fragility. When faced with the same situation as people who can't go a day without someone bullying them about who they are, these certain people shut down and just look for an out to the situation. When they can't find one they go berserk.

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Abyssea
07/02/18 8:49:40 AM
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Oh, boo hoo. If the parents don't like it they can put their kids in private school. With public education you get what you get.
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Patty_Fleur
07/02/18 8:50:02 AM
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The LGBT community wants to indoctrinate kids and may everyone gay or bi.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 8:52:04 AM
#61:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Join the 21st century please

Studies and practices have shown that students are far better equipped to handle these things at an early age than we previously thought
The parents should get the final say on these issues along with ALL school curriculum & content they intend to teach.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 8:53:19 AM
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Abyssea posted...
Oh, boo hoo. If the parents don't like it they can put their kids in private school. With public education you get what you get.
Maybe these Chartered Schools weren't such a bad idea after all along with School Vouchers.

Maybe parents should get to take their kids to what they think is a better school then, along with the government funding to back it.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/02/18 8:54:08 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
The parents should get the final say on these issues along with ALL school curriculum & content they intend to teach.

they do
if they don't like it they can take their kids out and put em into a private institution

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Imagine having that privilege, to be able to remove yourself from the situation if you find it uncomfortable
Having that taken away from them probably hurt their precious feelings

We see it time and time again, the certain fragility. When faced with the same situation as people who can't go a day without someone bullying them about who they are, these certain people shut down and just look for an out to the situation. When they can't find one they go berserk.

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Abyssea
07/02/18 8:55:28 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Join the 21st century please

Studies and practices have shown that students are far better equipped to handle these things at an early age than we previously thought
The parents should get the final say on these issues along with ALL school curriculum & content they intend to teach.


That's ridiculous. You can't expect schools to get every subject matter approved before it is taught. These parents need to suck it up or put their delicate children into private school.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 8:55:37 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
they do
if they don't like it they can take their kids out and put em into a private institution
Or they can follow the law and give them the proper notifications along with the option to opt out.
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eston
07/02/18 8:56:46 AM
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I'm a little unclear on the context under which these videos were shown. If they were student projects presented in front of their class, then I agree with the school. The parents don't need a copy of other students' projects. However, it says the videos were shown during daily announcements which implies they were shown to the entire school. In that case, I agree with the parents. They have a right to see something that is being broadcast to everyone.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
07/02/18 8:56:53 AM
#67:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Or they can follow the law and give them the proper notifications along with the option to opt out.

please cite the law you are referring to
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 8:57:04 AM
#68:


Abyssea posted...
That's ridiculous. You can't expect schools to get every subject matter approved before it is taught. These parents need to suck it up or put their delicate children into private school.
Sure, why not? It's 100% transparency and gives accountability on the content that they plan on teaching the students towards the families of the students.

If the parents don't like said content, give them specific subject veto powers as well.
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Abyssea
07/02/18 8:59:21 AM
#69:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
they do
if they don't like it they can take their kids out and put em into a private institution
Or they can follow the law and give them the proper notifications along with the option to opt out.


there's no law about having to get approval to show gay stuff to kids. Sex ed maybe, but not this. Not like you can stop the little gay kids from being gay in the hallways either. What if two boys start holding hands? The kids are going to get exposed to the LGBT one way or another. The parents are fighting an uphill battle here.

I know I was pretty gay back in the 5th grade. :v
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Patty_Fleur
07/02/18 9:01:53 AM
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Abyssea posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
they do
if they don't like it they can take their kids out and put em into a private institution
Or they can follow the law and give them the proper notifications along with the option to opt out.


there's no law about having to get approval to show gay stuff to kids. Sex ed maybe, but not this. Not like you can stop the little gay kids from being gay in the hallways either. What if two boys start holding hands? The kids are going to get exposed to the LGBT one way or another. The parents are fighting an uphill battle here.

I know I was pretty gay back in the 5th grade. :v


Homosexuality is against some people's religion. They should teach general tolerance but they shouldn't be spreading gay propaganda around the school.
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halomonkey1_3_5
07/02/18 9:02:01 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It is troubling that the school district intentionally hides its LGBT indoctrination from the parents, Staver said. The school district has harmed students with its radical LGBT propaganda.

lol
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KamenRiderBlade
07/02/18 9:03:31 AM
#72:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
please cite the law you are referring to
You're right, there is no law for that.

Welp, time to change that.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/02/18 9:03:47 AM
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People upset should never vote to approve funding increases for that district ever again
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Abyssea
07/02/18 9:04:55 AM
#74:


Patty_Fleur posted...
Homosexuality is against some people's religion. They should teach general tolerance but they shouldn't be spreading gay propaganda around the school.


The school's job isn't to accommodate religious beliefs. It has a duty to all students, including the LGBT ones. If this "gay propaganda" helps reduce bullying, then I'm all for it. When the LGBT kids start bullying the religious one for their beliefs, you let me know.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/02/18 9:05:50 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...

they do
if they don't like it they can take their kids out and put em into a private institution



Your privilege is showing
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Patty_Fleur
07/02/18 9:10:58 AM
#76:


Abyssea posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Homosexuality is against some people's religion. They should teach general tolerance but they shouldn't be spreading gay propaganda around the school.


The school's job isn't to accommodate religious beliefs. It has a duty to all students, including the LGBT ones. If this "gay propaganda" helps reduce bullying, then I'm all for it. When the LGBT kids start bullying the religious one for their beliefs, you let me know.


You're obviously biased because you're a gay man. I've never even seen gay kids bullied in high school.

Middle school yeah, but kids get bullied over literally anything at that level.
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Turbam
07/02/18 9:12:31 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Turbam posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
My son expressed to me that he felt bullied by the administration for being a heterosexual man and being forced to listen to LGBT advocacy on a daily basis

Imagine being this fragile

you say that

I did say that
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 9:13:11 AM
#78:


Abyssea posted...
Oh, boo hoo. If the parents don't like it they can put their kids in private school. With public education you get what you get.

Nope.
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 9:14:24 AM
#79:


Abyssea posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Homosexuality is against some people's religion. They should teach general tolerance but they shouldn't be spreading gay propaganda around the school.


The school's job isn't to accommodate religious beliefs. It has a duty to all students, including the LGBT ones. If this "gay propaganda" helps reduce bullying, then I'm all for it. When the LGBT kids start bullying the religious one for their beliefs, you let me know.

No, it's not. However, it IS their job to explain to parents, in painful detail, what they're teaching their children.
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KhanJohnny
07/02/18 9:21:55 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Abyssea posted...
Oh, boo hoo. If the parents don't like it they can put their kids in private school. With public education you get what you get.
Maybe these Chartered Schools weren't such a bad idea after all along with School Vouchers.

Maybe parents should get to take their kids to what they think is a better school then, along with the government funding to back it.

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VTBM
07/02/18 9:23:07 AM
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UnfairRepresent
07/02/18 9:24:07 AM
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VTBM posted...
Are they showing gay porn or something?

ewww they are kids
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 9:33:11 AM
#83:


VTBM posted...
Are they showing gay porn or something?

Nobody knows, because the schools won't give out the links.
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EdgeMaster
07/02/18 9:37:24 AM
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omega cookie posted...
And when they asked to see the videos the school district refused.

Ladies and gentlemen, this right here is what is known in the legal world as "a massive fuck up". You can't refuse to show parents what their children were shown or taught at school. That is actually illegal.

Forget about the gay rights shit, because none of that is relevant. If you show kids a video about how fucking awesome apples are, and then refuse to let the parents view Orchard Whores 4, you have just creampie'd yourself.

Whatever poor stupid fuck refused to let them view it not only cost that school district what is likely to be a whole fucking lot of money, but just ruined his own life. Bravo.


Good for him. He deserves it trying to brainwash impressionable children with stupid shit such as gender fluidity.

Not sure how this is even up for debate. I remember being in elementary/middle/high school and you had to get a permission slip signed to go on a field trip, watch a movie, etc.

Shouldnt have been that big of deal to send home permission slips that allow or deny them to teach your kid false shit like gender fluidity.

Hell, parents get pissed over if their kid is taught the theory of evolution (mind you theres arguments for and against this where as 4th grade sex ed disproves gender fluidity). They have every right to be angry and want to see the trash that was shown to their kids.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/02/18 9:38:39 AM
#85:


frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Liberty Counsel is threatening legal action unless the school district provides the videos to parents.


*facepalm*

We're going to take up court time for stuff like this now?

Um, yah, I definitely want to know what my kids are watching.

Omega explained it perfectly I just saw. His whole response. That.
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MrPeppers
07/02/18 9:41:14 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Then on top of that, they think they're in the right by refusing to let the parents review the material?

technically they're not wrong

if it's a student project then parents technically have no right to view or demand to see it

that being said I remember old anti-bullying videos also having things about gay people


Um, absolutely they do if it involves their own children who are under 18. If this was any sort of actual project that required confidentiality, informed consent would have to be obtained from the parents from the get-go. Additionally, kids are being involuntarily placed into another students project which is its own whole separate mess.
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Abyssea
07/02/18 9:41:24 AM
#87:


Patty_Fleur posted...
Abyssea posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Homosexuality is against some people's religion. They should teach general tolerance but they shouldn't be spreading gay propaganda around the school.


The school's job isn't to accommodate religious beliefs. It has a duty to all students, including the LGBT ones. If this "gay propaganda" helps reduce bullying, then I'm all for it. When the LGBT kids start bullying the religious one for their beliefs, you let me know.


You're obviously biased because you're a gay man. I've never even seen gay kids bullied in high school.

Middle school yeah, but kids get bullied over literally anything at that level.


You have 0 sense of perspective if you don't think gay kids get bullied in high school. Like 0. I can't even imagine being this clueless. I'm gonna pray for you.
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FLUFFYGERM
07/02/18 9:42:35 AM
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This is just going to strengthen the Betsy Devos's of the country. It's pretty much making the case that funding for public education is funding for indoctrination.

Gender fluidity being peddled to children each morning is not ok.
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Lorenzo_2003
07/02/18 9:44:26 AM
#90:


YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Again I agree with the sentiment - the school is clearly in the wrong here.


You really should have just stopped right there. No need to go on a rant when you were already smart enough to recognize that the school fucked up.
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Abyssea
07/02/18 9:45:22 AM
#91:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
This is just going to strengthen the Betsy Devos's of the country. It's pretty much making the case that funding for public education is funding for indoctrination.

Gender fluidity being peddled to children each morning is not ok.


Yea, even I agree the gender fluidity nonsense is really out of place. I don't see the problem with general LGBT related stuff though, since it genuinely concerns the students. They are likely going to have gay classmates. Increasing awareness will help everyone get along better. The less taboo it seems, the less ostracized people will feel.
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Kaliesto
07/02/18 9:50:53 AM
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Personally how does most Gay/Lesbian people feel about LGBT these days? Does Gender Fluidity even hold any merit? Like wouldn't you be annoyed to hell if you had to change from Masculine, Feminine OR neutral nouns and pronouns based how that person is feeling at the end of the day?

I mean we're not the Asari from Mass Effect (Cool concept of a Species btw), silly example yes but the Asari were pretty much that.
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Abyssea
07/02/18 9:54:25 AM
#94:


Kaliesto posted...
Personally how does most Gay/Lesbian people feel about LGBT these days? Does Gender Fluidity even hold any merit?

Like wouldn't you be annoyed to hell if you had to change from Masculine, Feminine OR neutral nouns and pronouns based how that person is feeling at the end of the day?

I mean we're not the Asari from Mass Effect (Cool concept of a Species btw).


I think the gender fluidity stuff is silly. :v Sounds like attention-seeking behavior to me.
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creativerealms
07/02/18 9:55:52 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
This is just going to strengthen the Betsy Devos's of the country. It's pretty much making the case that funding for public education is funding for indoctrination.

Gender fluidity being peddled to children each morning is not ok.

It already is. Liberty Counsel makes the Betsy Devos look normal.

Besides that's what Devos and the liberty counsel want. They want schools to be Christian indoctrination centers.
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creativerealms
07/02/18 9:57:00 AM
#96:


ITT people side with a hate group.
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EdgeMaster
07/02/18 9:58:25 AM
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Abyssea posted...
Kaliesto posted...
Personally how does most Gay/Lesbian people feel about LGBT these days? Does Gender Fluidity even hold any merit?

Like wouldn't you be annoyed to hell if you had to change from Masculine, Feminine OR neutral nouns and pronouns based how that person is feeling at the end of the day?

I mean we're not the Asari from Mass Effect (Cool concept of a Species btw).


I think the gender fluidity stuff is silly. :v Sounds like attention-seeking behavior to me.


It is. It can be disproven with elementary level science.
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Bloodychess
07/02/18 10:00:45 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
If you have nothing to hide, then why was this done in secret without parental notification & approval along with the option to opt out?

Then on top of that, they think they're in the right by refusing to let the parents review the material?

because it was made by students

That privacy goes out the window when you broadcast the video to the entire school.
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A_Good_Boy
07/02/18 10:01:02 AM
#99:


EdgeMaster posted...
Abyssea posted...
Kaliesto posted...
Personally how does most Gay/Lesbian people feel about LGBT these days? Does Gender Fluidity even hold any merit?

Like wouldn't you be annoyed to hell if you had to change from Masculine, Feminine OR neutral nouns and pronouns based how that person is feeling at the end of the day?

I mean we're not the Asari from Mass Effect (Cool concept of a Species btw).


I think the gender fluidity stuff is silly. :v Sounds like attention-seeking behavior to me.


It is. It can be disproven with elementary level science.

Then do it.
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darkjedilink
07/02/18 10:02:25 AM
#100:


creativerealms posted...
ITT people side with a hate group.

So, you believe that schools should be able to actively hide what they are teaching?

Or are you only okay with this because you agree with the message?
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