Current Events > Welp, finally giving WoW a try

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After 30 years of having never, ever played the game but other MMOs I decided to give it a shot, and see what all the hubbub was about.

Any advice, CE?
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EverDownward posted...

Any advice, CE?

Don't

Reis posted...

EverDownward posted...

Any advice, CE?

Don't

This is gonna set the tone for my adventure, huh
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Don't spend any gold at the auction house while leveling, you'll out level the gear super fast.

Try not to get sucked into WoW
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Leveling is an obstacle that you must endure. Endgame is where the game shines.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

Leveling is an obstacle that you must endure. Endgame is where the game shines.

this, the game begins at level cap tbh

personally i wouldnt bother with WoW at this point if you havent been playing for a while already, it'd be like saying you want to get into the simpsons and then starting with season 20
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Romulox28 posted...

Dyinglegacy posted...

Leveling is an obstacle that you must endure. Endgame is where the game shines.

this, the game begins at level cap tbh

personally i wouldnt bother with WoW at this point if you havent been playing for a while already, it'd be like saying you want to get into the simpsons and then starting with season 20

Well, I'd like to do vanilla WoW but Classic isn't coming out in the foreseeable future and I'd like to prop current WoW up against some of the other stuff I've played. I'm aware MMOs are more of a meta grind and don't necessarily start until you reach a certain level or the end game (which usually coincide together), everything else beforehand is just whatever.

But I mean...I dunno. I'd like to see how things are, what it's like. I mean, if I don't like the game I can just not spend any money on it. I'm trying the starter edition for the time being, anyways.
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EverDownward posted...

Romulox28 posted...

Dyinglegacy posted...

Leveling is an obstacle that you must endure. Endgame is where the game shines.

this, the game begins at level cap tbh

personally i wouldnt bother with WoW at this point if you havent been playing for a while already, it'd be like saying you want to get into the simpsons and then starting with season 20

Well, I'd like to do vanilla WoW but Classic isn't coming out in the foreseeable future and I'd like to prop current WoW up against some of the other stuff I've played. I'm aware MMOs are more of a meta grind and don't necessarily start until you reach a certain level or the end game (which usually coincide together), everything else beforehand is just whatever.

But I mean...I dunno. I'd like to see how things are, what it's like. I mean, if I don't like the game I can just not spend any money on it. I'm trying the starter edition for the time being, anyways.

dont take my post as a statement that WoW is a bad game, because honestly playing WoW might be my favorite video game experience of all time. i do not think i will ever have another experience in a game that rivals seeing some of WoW's world for the first time, the satisfaction of taking down a hard raid boss after raiding all night and wiping multiple times with your guild, etc.

its just that you have to slog through 110 levels of content, which sounds cool but the leveling experience is very bad at this point and needs a huge overhaul. it's really unpleasant if you dont know what you're doing & dont have any heirlooms.

my suggestion to you is that if you are having a good time with the game and like how it is and decide to stick with it, pre-order Battle for Azeroth (latest expansion) and then use the level 110 boost on your character.
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The game doesn't really begin at level cap. The game begins when you make a night elf druid and do some fun quests around the area, kill a few low level bosses, explore some hidden caves. You find a boat and hop on to see what's on the other side and wind up in Stormwind, the greatest city in WoW history.

I always had the most fun exploring and leveling up my character.
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they already litterally just DID a huge overhaul of leveling

Romulox28 posted...

dont take my post as a statement that WoW is a bad game, because honestly playing WoW might be my favorite video game experience of all time.

its just that you have to slog through 110 levels of content, which sounds cool but the leveling experience is very bad at this point and needs a huge overhaul. it's really unpleasant if you dont know what you're doing & dont have any heirlooms.

my suggestion to you is that if you are having a good time with the game and like how it is and decide to stick with it, pre-order Battle for Azeroth (latest expansion) and then use the level 110 boost on your character.

Thanks for the advice, I might do that. We'll see. I never used the character booster option in SWTOR...but then again, I'm aware that game has dedicated single player content ala the stories for each class, so there was a reason to push through the grind. I'm not aware of any such dedication for WoW.
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...

The game doesn't really begin at level cap. The game begins when you make a night elf druid and do some fun quests around the area, kill a few low level bosses, explore some hidden caves. You find a boat and hop on to see what's on the other side and wind up in Stormwind, the greatest city in WoW history.

I always had the most fun exploring and leveling up my character.

this

there are 2 types of ways of looking at WoW

"the game begins at end level and it's all about raiding"

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

the first one is just the most vocal and always want to yell their point of view at any new players

There are quests and lore before max level, which are fun if you are doing them for the first time. And without heirlooms you will most likely be able to see the whole quest chain before leaving an area.
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Zikten posted...

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

This is primarily what I'm hoping my experience with the game is. I'm not about trying to build the best class, or min maxing my character. I just want to explore the game, get lost in its world, and maybe find some neat gear along the way.
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EverDownward posted...

Zikten posted...

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

This is primarily what I'm hoping my experience with the game is. I'm not about trying to build the best class, or min maxing my character. I just want to explore the game, get lost in its world, and maybe find some neat gear along the way.

If you are going in with that mindset, you will be sucked in. There is a ton to explore and get lost in if you care about the lore. Though also plenty of loose ends and weird jumps you have to do to see everything. Play both sides and the game will last you quiet some time.
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Zikten posted...

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

The game doesn't really begin at level cap. The game begins when you make a night elf druid and do some fun quests around the area, kill a few low level bosses, explore some hidden caves. You find a boat and hop on to see what's on the other side and wind up in Stormwind, the greatest city in WoW history.

I always had the most fun exploring and leveling up my character.

this

there are 2 types of ways of looking at WoW

"the game begins at end level and it's all about raiding"

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

the first one is just the most vocal and always want to yell their point of view at any new players

Yup! Especially if you enjoy WoW lore like I do. I don't read every single quest text but generally I try understanding everything I'm doing. Questing and going on missions is fun. Exploring a new area is fun. Finding out this cool looking boss drops a mount of itself and going back in hopes of it dropping is exciting. Lots of fun end game content to do like unlocking artifact appearances but not everything worth doing is max level stuff only.
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EverDownward posted...

Zikten posted...

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

This is primarily what I'm hoping my experience with the game is. I'm not about trying to build the best class, or min maxing my character. I just want to explore the game, get lost in its world, and maybe find some neat gear along the way.

Then you're going to love this game.
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Romulox28 posted...

Dyinglegacy posted...

Leveling is an obstacle that you must endure. Endgame is where the game shines.

this, the game begins at level cap tbh

This is why WoW and all modern MMORPGs are shit

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

EverDownward posted...

Zikten posted...

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

This is primarily what I'm hoping my experience with the game is. I'm not about trying to build the best class, or min maxing my character. I just want to explore the game, get lost in its world, and maybe find some neat gear along the way.

Then you're going to love this game.

fuck. he's going to become addicted just like him. not going to give up.
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Zikten posted...

there are 2 types of ways of looking at WoW

"the game begins at end level and it's all about raiding"

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

the first one is just the most vocal and always want to yell their point of view at any new players

the thing about the "starting at level 1 and having fun" mindset is that it is 100% dependent on how much you like Warcraft lore/stories/etc and doing "collect X boar pelt" fetch quests for 100 hours.

at a low level you will barely see other players, there's not any significant group content (unless you count random LFD groups trying to speedrun through dungeons on their 100th alt), and honestly the storylines are pretty messed up. I think the last time I leveled a character from 1 and tried to go through the storylines there were like 3 different Horde warchiefs due to the old content not being updated lol.

I love everything about Warcraft so I can deal with it, but if you are hopping into WoW and expecting that "MMO experience" then you will be a little disappointed until you hit endgame. and definitely try and avoid the Burning Crusade areas during your session, I wouldnt wish Outland questing on my worst enemy
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Romulox28 posted...

EverDownward posted...

Romulox28 posted...

Dyinglegacy posted...

Leveling is an obstacle that you must endure. Endgame is where the game shines.

this, the game begins at level cap tbh

personally i wouldnt bother with WoW at this point if you havent been playing for a while already, it'd be like saying you want to get into the simpsons and then starting with season 20

Well, I'd like to do vanilla WoW but Classic isn't coming out in the foreseeable future and I'd like to prop current WoW up against some of the other stuff I've played. I'm aware MMOs are more of a meta grind and don't necessarily start until you reach a certain level or the end game (which usually coincide together), everything else beforehand is just whatever.

But I mean...I dunno. I'd like to see how things are, what it's like. I mean, if I don't like the game I can just not spend any money on it. I'm trying the starter edition for the time being, anyways.

dont take my post as a statement that WoW is a bad game, because honestly playing WoW might be my favorite video game experience of all time. i do not think i will ever have another experience in a game that rivals seeing some of WoW's world for the first time, the satisfaction of taking down a hard raid boss after raiding all night and wiping multiple times with your guild, etc.

its just that you have to slog through 110 levels of content, which sounds cool but the leveling experience is very bad at this point and needs a huge overhaul. it's really unpleasant if you dont know what you're doing & dont have any heirlooms.

my suggestion to you is that if you are having a good time with the game and like how it is and decide to stick with it, pre-order Battle for Azeroth (latest expansion) and then use the level 110 boost on your character.

Don't do this. If you're a first time WoW player and use a level boost, you will never know how to effectively play that class or the game.
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Romulox28 posted...

Zikten posted...

there are 2 types of ways of looking at WoW

"the game begins at end level and it's all about raiding"

"the game is about starting at level 1 and questing and having fun"

the first one is just the most vocal and always want to yell their point of view at any new players

the thing about the "starting at level 1 and having fun" mindset is that it is 100% dependent on how much you like Warcraft lore/stories/etc and doing "collect X boar pelt" fetch quests for 100 hours.

at a low level you will barely see other players, there's not any significant group content (unless you count random LFD groups trying to speedrun through dungeons on their 100th alt), and honestly the storylines are pretty messed up. I think the last time I leveled a character from 1 and tried to go through the storylines there were like 3 different Horde warchiefs due to the old content not being updated lol.

I love everything about Warcraft so I can deal with it, but if you are hopping into WoW and expecting that "MMO experience" then you will be a little disappointed until you hit endgame. and definitely try and avoid the Burning Crusade areas during your session, I wouldnt wish Outland questing on my worst enemy

The only really confusing stuff is when you jump expansions, but then you know you are jumping expansions and should know the story changed at that point.

Outland questing was fun the first time you do it, there are a lot of interesting stuff to see and do. But once you done it.... It is quite horrible to do again.

And for MMOs, most of the questing doesn't really require people anyways, infact having people around is usually a detriment, people spawn camping, kill stealing, or outright PKing.
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If you're going to play though, I suggest choosing a high population realm so you can interact with a lot of people. To this end, chose like

If Alliance, choose the realms: Dalaran, Stormrage, Moon Guard, or Wyrmrest Accord

If Horde, choose the realms: Area 52, Blacrock, Dalaran, or Illadin
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i'm proud of him. he listed stormrage. that was my old server.
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Perascamin posted...

If you're going to play though, I suggest choosing a high population realm so you can interact with a lot of people. To this end, chose like

If Alliance, choose the realms: Dalaran, Stormrage, Moon Guard, or Wyrmrest Accord

If Horde, choose the realms: Area 52, Blacrock, Dalaran, or Illadin

Thanks...although, I mostly plan on playing by myself - at least, starting out anyways. I always prefer to solo in MMOs, as antithetical as that typically is with the inherent concept of the genre >_>
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Enjoy your first leveling experience and dont rush it. Some of my most fondest memories are of my first character and leveling him up. Enjoy endgame when you get there.
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EverDownward posted...

Thanks...although, I mostly plan on playing by myself - at least, starting out anyways. I always prefer to solo in MMOs, as antithetical as that typically is with the inherent concept of the genre >_>

judging by this and your other posts you'll love WoW then lol

if you're horde I'd suggest playing on Tichondrius, I played on that for years

Perascamin posted...

Don't do this. If you're a first time WoW player and use a level boost, you will never know how to effectively play that class or the game.

i disagree, i dont think there is anything you'll learn about your character class questing at level 70 that you can't learn boosted at level 110. questing isnt really hard anyway until you get to the latest content due to the stat squish (not sure if that was changed with the world scaling though).

as i said before, a lot of WoW begins at endgame and the skills you need to perform a mythic dungeon or raid are completely different than those you'd use questing
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Perascamin posted...

If you're going to play though, I suggest choosing a high population realm so you can interact with a lot of people. To this end, chose like

If Alliance, choose the realms: Dalaran, Stormrage, Moon Guard, or Wyrmrest Accord

If Horde, choose the realms: Area 52, Blacrock, Dalaran, or Illadin

Thats a bad idea with an expansion coming out soon. Gonna get some long queues.
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it's not so bad. just log in before the chaos.
the following day after you log off, might experience the queue problem.
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kingdrake2 posted...

it's not so bad. just log in before the chaos.
the following day after you log off, might experience the queue problem.

You would have to log in at odd hours to dodge the queue, and even then eh. And all you really get is too many people camping spawns and wasting your time. Not sure why people love high population servers, other than a healthy economy with the AH.
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LightHawKnight posted...

kingdrake2 posted...

it's not so bad. just log in before the chaos.
the following day after you log off, might experience the queue problem.

You would have to log in at odd hours to dodge the queue, and even then eh. And all you really get is too many people camping spawns and wasting your time. Not sure why people love high population servers, other than a healthy economy with the AH.

Because having a queue for login is fucking HYPE
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Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.
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Vyrulisse posted...

Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.

I already tried it, wasn't a big fan
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EverDownward posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.

I already tried it, wasn't a big fan

I'm mostly teasing, it's not for everyone. I don't know about WoW but hope you have fun there.
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Vyrulisse posted...

EverDownward posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.

I already tried it, wasn't a big fan

I'm mostly teasing, it's not for everyone. I don't know about WoW but hope you have fun there.

Thanks :D
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EverDownward posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.

I already tried it, wasn't a big fan

Lol if what you care about is more story and lore oriented stuff then XIV is definitely better in that regards since they put a colossal amount of effort into it

WoW is better if you care about stuff like PvP tho

Reis posted...

EverDownward posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.

I already tried it, wasn't a big fan

Lol if what you care about is more story and lore oriented stuff then XIV is definitely better in that regards since they put a colossal amount of effort into it

WoW is better if you care about stuff like PvP tho

Colossal amount? You mean that empty world that everyone hated the moment it came out?
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Reis posted...

EverDownward posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.

I already tried it, wasn't a big fan

Lol if what you care about is more story and lore oriented stuff then XIV is definitely better in that regards since they put a colossal amount of effort into it

WoW is better if you care about stuff like PvP tho

I really don't care for FFXIV's art and aesthetic. I am a fan of Final Fantasy, but I just couldn't get into the game.
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Play on Northdale. It's a new vanilla private server that just launched on Saturday. I've been playing a Druid and it's a fucking blast.

Vanilla >>>>>>> retail.
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LightHawKnight posted...

There are quests and lore before max level, which are fun if you are doing them for the first time. And without heirlooms you will most likely be able to see the whole quest chain before leaving an area.

They actually revamped leveling a few months ago using the scaling they first used in Legion. Now (aside from the starter zones), all vanilla zones scale with you up to level sixty. So Duskwood starts off as a level 20 zone. But if you did a bunch of leveling in Kalimdor and you want to go do Duskwood at level 30, then all the mobs in Duskwood will be level 30. Ditto level 40 or 50 or 60. This extends to the expansions.

Vanilla zones: 1-60
Outland and Northrend: 58-80
Cataclysm and Pandaria: 80-90
Draenor: 90-100
Broken Isles: 98-110

Romulox28 posted...

at a low level you will barely see other players,

With their CRZ silliness, I really see more players at low levels than I do at high ones. But I am on a dead-ass server.
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LightHawKnight posted...

Reis posted...

EverDownward posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Drop that ancient shitshow and play FFXIV.

I already tried it, wasn't a big fan

Lol if what you care about is more story and lore oriented stuff then XIV is definitely better in that regards since they put a colossal amount of effort into it

WoW is better if you care about stuff like PvP tho

Colossal amount? You mean that empty world that everyone hated the moment it came out?

That's 1.0 and it died long ago.
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pegusus123456 posted...

LightHawKnight posted...

There are quests and lore before max level, which are fun if you are doing them for the first time. And without heirlooms you will most likely be able to see the whole quest chain before leaving an area.

They actually revamped leveling a few months ago using the scaling they first used in Legion. Now (aside from the starter zones), all vanilla zones scale with you up to level sixty. So Duskwood starts off as a level 20 zone. But if you did a bunch of leveling in Kalimdor and you want to go do Duskwood at level 30, then all the mobs in Duskwood will be level 30. Ditto level 40 or 50 or 60. This extends to the expansions.

Vanilla zones: 1-60
Outland and Northrend: 58-80
Cataclysm and Pandaria: 80-90
Draenor: 90-100
Broken Isles: 98-110

Romulox28 posted...

at a low level you will barely see other players,

With their CRZ silliness, I really see more players at low levels than I do at high ones. But I am on a dead-ass server.

I really really really really really hate CRZ with a passion. Though really don't want to spend money to move to servers without it...
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pegusus123456 posted...

With their CRZ silliness, I really see more players at low levels than I do at high ones. But I am on a dead-ass server.

CRZ was such a terrible idea but i think they changed it so multiple people can attack the same enemy, they're not "tagged" anymore
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Oh, yeah, that was a long time ago. I believe five people of the same faction can all smack the same guy and get credit for it before it's fully tagged.

"Boss" quest mobs can be tagged by both factions, but I think that doesn't start until MoP or WoD.
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Romulox28 posted...

pegusus123456 posted...

With their CRZ silliness, I really see more players at low levels than I do at high ones. But I am on a dead-ass server.

CRZ was such a terrible idea but i think they changed it so multiple people can attack the same enemy, they're not "tagged" anymore

For the same side. If the opposite faction jumps in... It sucks. Really bad when you get CRZ with the opposite faction and they are the majority.
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Let us know what server you choose. I'll shoot you some spare gold if you want it.

littlebro07 posted...

Play on Northdale. It's a new vanilla private server that just launched on Saturday. I've been playing a Druid and it's a fucking blast.

Vanilla >>>>>>> retail.

Absolutely do not do this. Vanilla is terrible and you'll hate it.
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RebelElite791 posted...

Absolutely do not do this. Vanilla is terrible and you'll hate it.

If he wants an MMO, he'll like it.

If he's more into an action RPG then yeah go retail
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Vanilla was fun 13 years ago because there was nothing better at the time. Standards have gotten higher.

Private servers are only good for a short nostalgia trip, which wouldnt apply to TC. All he would see is a crusty ass game.
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Vanilla is a product of its time yeah. And it has no real difficulty or reward, just forced tedium.
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