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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 12:45:37 PM
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If Roe v Wade does get repealed, all that will happen is individual states will get to decide if they want to legalize abortions or not

So if you're in Arkansas, and Roe v Wade got struck down, and you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.
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Hinakuluiau
06/29/18 12:49:21 PM
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Not everyone can afford to go out of state to get an abortion, there are complications:
A child who doesn't want their parents to know
Someone who doesn't have access to a vehicle
Someone who can't afford a hotel when they get to where they're going because there's a wait limit
etc.

Then you have the possibility of legislature that criminalizes women who travel to another state for the express purpose of getting an abortion

It's just messy and backwards
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HypnoCoosh
06/29/18 12:50:20 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
If Roe v Wade does get repealed, all that will happen is individual states will get to decide if they want to legalize abortions or not

So if you're in Arkansas, and Roe v Wade got struck down, and you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.


You said it.

This was never something the supreme court should have decided.
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joestarrr
06/29/18 12:51:24 PM
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Aren't y'all the same people who bitch and moan about people being on welfare?
You do realize that the result of this would simply be bringing even more unwanted children into the world that the government has to pay for, right?
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 12:52:40 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Not everyone can afford to go out of state to get an abortion, there are complications:

A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

If you can't afford that, then you have made WAY worse decisions in your life than not wrapping it up.
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HypnoCoosh
06/29/18 12:53:03 PM
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joestarrr posted...
Aren't y'all the same people who bitch and moan about people being on welfare?
You do realize that the result of this would simply be bringing even more unwanted children into the world that the government has to pay for, right?


Doesn't matter.

It's each states decision to make abortion laws not the federal government.
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Tyranthraxus
06/29/18 12:53:27 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If Roe v Wade does get repealed, all that will happen is individual states will get to decide if they want to legalize abortions or not

So if you're in Arkansas, and Roe v Wade got struck down, and you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.


You said it.

This was never something the supreme court should have decided.

The people who need them the most can't just fly out of state to do it.
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Genocet_10-325
06/29/18 12:53:46 PM
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joestarrr posted...
Aren't y'all the same people who bitch and moan about people being on welfare?
You do realize that the result of this would simply be bringing even more unwanted children into the world that the government has to pay for, right?

Answer this, conservatives.
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Bishop9800
06/29/18 12:55:21 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Im going to throw a party the day that Mal Fet isnt intellectually dishonest.


It will be a long wait.
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joestarrr
06/29/18 12:55:39 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If Roe v Wade does get repealed, all that will happen is individual states will get to decide if they want to legalize abortions or not

So if you're in Arkansas, and Roe v Wade got struck down, and you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.


You said it.

This was never something the supreme court should have decided.

The people who need them the most can't just fly out of state to do it.


Yup.
Kinda also proves that pro lifers (lol) care more about punishing women than anything else, really.
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Bishop9800
06/29/18 12:55:44 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.


Is this sarcasm?


No, it's Mal.
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HypnoCoosh
06/29/18 12:56:20 PM
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Let the states decide it's well within each states democratic right to let the people vote.
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Hinakuluiau
06/29/18 12:56:36 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

That's just the beginning though.
They have to fly there, so $100 - $500
Many places will require 24 hours between consultation and the procedure, that's 1-2 nights at a hotel
They've got to get a taxi/subway/bus/uber from the airport to the hotel to the health center
Their insurance may not cover it because it's out-of-network
They can't cook while they're there so they have to eat out

You're looking at easily an extra $300 - $500
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Genocet_10-325
06/29/18 12:56:50 PM
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joestarrr posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
If Roe v Wade does get repealed, all that will happen is individual states will get to decide if they want to legalize abortions or not

So if you're in Arkansas, and Roe v Wade got struck down, and you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.


You said it.

This was never something the supreme court should have decided.

The people who need them the most can't just fly out of state to do it.


Yup.
Kinda also proves that pro lifers (lol) care more about punishing women than anything else, really.

Yep. They're so angry that they can't get their dicks wet that they hate all women everywhere
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 12:57:08 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
joestarrr posted...
Aren't y'all the same people who bitch and moan about people being on welfare?
You do realize that the result of this would simply be bringing even more unwanted children into the world that the government has to pay for, right?

Answer this, conservatives.

We'd also save a lot of money if we murdered everyone below middle income, but as a society we've decided that killing innocent people is bad.

Asherlee10 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.


Is this sarcasm?

No, it's not very complicated
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Genocet_10-325
06/29/18 12:57:58 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

That's just the beginning though.
They have to fly there, so $100 - $500
Many places will require 24 hours between consultation and the procedure, that's 1-2 nights at a hotel
They've got to get a taxi/subway/bus/uber from the airport to the hotel to the health center
Their insurance may not cover it because it's out-of-network
They can't cook while they're there so they have to eat out

You're looking at easily an extra $300 - $500

Best part is, this won't stop abortions from happening. Those who.can't afford it will resort to unsafe back alley abortions.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/29/18 12:58:09 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I?m going to throw a party the day that Mal Fet isn?t intellectually dishonest.


Imagine literally never being able to throw a party :/
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Bishop9800
06/29/18 12:58:14 PM
#22:


Asherlee10 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Hinakuluiau posted...
Not everyone can afford to go out of state to get an abortion, there are complications:

A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

If you can't afford that, then you have made WAY worse decisions in your life than not wrapping it up.


Please tell me you are not being genuinely serious here.


It's Mal.
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Genocet_10-325
06/29/18 12:58:49 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
joestarrr posted...
Aren't y'all the same people who bitch and moan about people being on welfare?
You do realize that the result of this would simply be bringing even more unwanted children into the world that the government has to pay for, right?

Answer this, conservatives.

We'd also save a lot of money if we murdered everyone below middle income, but as a society we've decided that killing innocent people is bad.

Asherlee10 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.


Is this sarcasm?

No, it's not very complicated

So you want more people being a drain on the welfare system you hate so much? Got it!!
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joestarrr
06/29/18 12:59:02 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...

We'd also save a lot of money if we murdered everyone below middle income, but as a society we've decided that killing innocent people is bad.


Was your education genuinely so poor and your moral compass so broken that you genuinely believe that a fetus has more inherent value than the person it's inside of?

A fetus is not a person in the same sense of you or me.
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FrisbeeDude
06/29/18 12:59:08 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Hinakuluiau posted...
Not everyone can afford to go out of state to get an abortion, there are complications:

A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

If you can't afford that, then you have made WAY worse decisions in your life than not wrapping it up.


What kinda stupid ass reasoning is this?
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spudger
06/29/18 12:59:09 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
If Roe v Wade does get repealed, all that will happen is individual states will get to decide if they want to legalize abortions or not

So if you're in Arkansas, and Roe v Wade got struck down, and you want an abortion, just fly to Illinois and get one. The world won't come crashing down.

What a stupid fucking post
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 1:00:16 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

That's just the beginning though.
They have to fly there, so $100 - $500
Many places will require 24 hours between consultation and the procedure, that's 1-2 nights at a hotel
They've got to get a taxi/subway/bus/uber from the airport to the hotel to the health center
Their insurance may not cover it because it's out-of-network
They can't cook while they're there so they have to eat out

You're looking at easily an extra $300 - $500

I don't know how much you think hotels cost, but I was actually in Springfield two weeks ago and my expenses for 2 nights with hotel/taxis/food was about $180.

Even if we go by your luxury figures it would still be peanuts compared to the cost of raising a kid
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foreveraIone
06/29/18 1:00:17 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
I guess I haven't seen Mal_Fet post in topics that I often participate in, when did he turn into this gimmick?

years ago.
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Bishop9800
06/29/18 1:00:47 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
I guess I haven't seen Mal_Fet post in topics that I often participate in, when did he turn into this gimmick?


It's not a gimmick.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/29/18 1:00:53 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Let the states decide it's well within each states democratic right to let the people vote.


Not everyone has the luxury of living in a state where the majority of voters are good people.
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Dragonblade01
06/29/18 1:01:00 PM
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It's true that Roe vs Wade is not the end-all-be-all of abortion legislation.

That doesn't mean it's a good thing to repeal though. And that's the bigger point.
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HypnoCoosh
06/29/18 1:01:31 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
voters are good people


Subjective at best
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 1:01:58 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
I guess I haven't seen Mal_Fet post in topics that I often participate in, when did he turn into this gimmick?

What gimmick, reality?
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foreveraIone
06/29/18 1:02:01 PM
#36:


Asherlee10 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
I guess I haven't seen Mal_Fet post in topics that I often participate in, when did he turn into this gimmick?


It's not a gimmick.


Yeah it is. He wasn't like this previously.

No. Hes been like this for years.
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DifferentialEquation
06/29/18 1:02:49 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
joestarrr posted...
Aren't y'all the same people who bitch and moan about people being on welfare?
You do realize that the result of this would simply be bringing even more unwanted children into the world that the government has to pay for, right?

Answer this, conservatives.


If people are against welfare and against abortion (because they believe it's murder) then they would possibly believe that welfare is the lesser of two evils.

If you're an environmentalist, that doesn't mean that you must be against bringing in refugees from third world countries who will live with increased carbon footprints in the U.S. (or other first world countries).
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DiegoSanchez206
06/29/18 1:03:04 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Hinakuluiau posted...
Not everyone can afford to go out of state to get an abortion, there are complications:

A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

If you can't afford that, then you have made WAY worse decisions in your life than not wrapping it up.

LMAO
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Southernfatman
06/29/18 1:03:14 PM
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Y'all know Mal and others of his I'll are just trying to yank y'all's chain and make you mad right? Of course they're going to be hypocritical and so on Never saw the point in trying to convince them of anything or troll them back.
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 1:03:17 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Not everyone has the luxury of living in a state where the majority of voters are good people.

I don't know how you believe democracy works, but generally the majority gets to decide on what the laws should be

For all their talk about how Trump is ruining democracy, the left really seems to hate it when democracy happens.
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MC_BatCommander
06/29/18 1:05:16 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Y'all know Mal and others of his I'll are just trying to yank y'all's chain and make you mad right? Of course they're going to be hypocritical and so on Never saw the point in trying to convince them of anything or troll them back.


This, idk why people on this board get baited so easily. The same exact people have been trolling this board for so fucking long
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CyricZ
06/29/18 1:05:25 PM
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Just gets his account back and this is the topic he makes.
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 1:05:49 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Except when you violate rights, which is what you are suggesting.

Abortion isn't a right.

Don't fret though, like I said overturning Roe v Wade will only allow states to decide if they want abortions.
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 1:06:13 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Just gets his account back and this is the topic he makes.

My account's been up for over a month
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Bishop9800
06/29/18 1:06:14 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Just gets his account back and this is the topic he makes.


Typical Mal
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Genocet_10-325
06/29/18 1:06:30 PM
#48:


Mal_Fet posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Not everyone has the luxury of living in a state where the majority of voters are good people.

I don't know how you believe democracy works, but generally the majority gets to decide on what the laws should be

For all their talk about how Trump is ruining democracy, the left really seems to hate it when democracy happens.

The majority didn't vote for Trump and he's still president
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Balrog0
06/29/18 1:07:06 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
A flight within the US costs like 100-500 round-trip

If you can't afford that, then you have made WAY worse decisions in your life than not wrapping it up.


I don't understand this post at all. $500 is more than a week's pay on minimum wage. It's a week's pay after taxes if you make the median personal income of ~$15. Most people don't have a week's pay saved up. And people who need abortions are more likely to be poor on average

Maybe most people are making bad life decisions, but what does that have to do with how easy it is to get from Arkansas to Illinois?
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Mal_Fet
06/29/18 1:07:16 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Not everyone has the luxury of living in a state where the majority of voters are good people.

I don't know how you believe democracy works, but generally the majority gets to decide on what the laws should be

For all their talk about how Trump is ruining democracy, the left really seems to hate it when democracy happens.

The majority didn't vote for Trump and he's still president

generally

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