Board 8 > Mercs Offseason Topic: Now with Less Purge

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I should probably play Automata. Too bad I'm broke
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time to employ the fabled hax tactics of steam game share obv

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on a different note, thinking of doing one more high tier match to test a new kind of entrant, then fielding suggestions on potential fights while we work on the next reveal. This is the match I'm toying with right now:

Fox McCloud is as he appears in the Star Fox series, piloting the fully upgraded Arwing as seen in Star Fox Zero's all-range mode, which may transform as needed. He will come in from the nearest convenient location to his team, and has no bombs. He may leave the cockpit but will only have his Blaster from Star Fox: Assault if he does so.

~VS~

White Glint is as it appears in Armored Core 4: For Answer, piloted by Anatolia's Raven. It has unlimited Quick Boost and energy, and full access to all capabilities displayed within the Defeat White Glint mission, including Assault Armor. White Glint's operator, Fiona Jarnefeldt, will aid him in battle, providing him with a basic briefing on his opponents' capabilities, as well as any significant events that may arise during the course of battle.

Terrain: Green Hill Zone - Loop-the-loops, hidden springs, deadly spikes, and an abundant supply of power rings. Though others might find it bizarre, Sonic and company are right at home. The stage is as seen in Sonic Generations' modern form. Attackers will start at the beginning of the stage, with defenders at the end.

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The idea is to do something a little different - a fast-paced, crazy aerial dogfight. I think no one else has played Armored Core 4: For Answer but me here, but suggestions on the builds are welcome regardless.
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so he has pandora's box too

wasnt that super strong?
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ScareChan posted...

so he has pandora's box too

wasnt that super strong?

Yes, but it was ammo limited and has a very long activation delay for most of the options, so it's not as big a deal as it seems. It gives Dante an 'ultimate weapon' that is all his own, since he can't have Yamato.
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what condition

There's like 6 of us here that play F/GO.
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'Mer'tal Kombat

I've got 5 noms to trade for Neku Sakuraba (The World Ends with You).

Aight, it's about time I put that match up. I got sidetracked with big boy administrative business but it's about dang time I took care of another admin duty with a new test match. I'll put up White Glint vs Fox in about...two hours or so, I think? So strap yourselves in everyone, and get your votes ready.
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where would you put 2B in a flight suit v. Fox in Arwing?

assume Bubbly Clouds for terrain because why not
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Johnbobb posted...

where would you put 2B in a flight suit v. Fox in Arwing?

assume Bubbly Clouds for terrain because why not

You're basically asking if Toobie with permanent 2.5 haste is too shitty a pilot to beat Fox here

2B is ludicrous vs gunner-type fighters (and while fox uses lasers he still qualifies as a gunner to me in terms of function). I think I take her without too much hesitation. Her big challenge is meleers because of how mages can be beaten with autoheal regen.
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We're live: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77080026

Come on in and let's talk about air superiority!
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Grr, stuff I put on the AH isn't showing up on the AH.
Tested it by trying to sell a perfect square for 5k and it sat there for hours.

So having just gotten back from Venom, he'd make a pretty damn great 6/week
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nah man he's a loser
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Heroic Bigpun posted...

IMAGINE SOMETHING YOU CAME UP WITH GETS REDRAWN BY THE ONE PUNCH MAN GUY HOLY SHIT

I feel like this is probably the biggest thing for the guy. It's not just that all these people are using the same concept as him, but they're all even using the specific design he created.

GuessMyUserName posted...

@MikeTavish is that your cat with the A+ name

Eh? Yes...? Where?
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Venom
Neutral Male Human/Otherwordly
6/week

Eddie Brock is as he appears in Venom, wearing the Venom symbiote with all shown abilities (no comic feats). Eddie and Venom must both be defeated for them to be eliminated.

Lethal Protector (Peacetime/Trigger) - If there's one thing Venom hates, it's an evil doer who doesn't know when to stop. Each week during Peacetime, Venom may declare one allied merc on his team to be under his protection. During that week's Wartime, any Villainous enemy abilities targeting that merc will be met by an appropriate reprisal; the first ability used will result in the offending enemy battling that day without either of their arms. The second ability used will result in the enemy battling without arms or legs. The third ability used will result in Venom saying fuck it and biting their head off for a KO. If any of these results are reached, Lethal Protector will go on recharge for two weeks.

Ability Upgrade

New Ability

WE ARE VENOM! (Trigger) - While there may technically be nothing keeping Venom from finding another host if Eddie dies, gosh darn it, they're both losers and they're in this together. Should any KO ability land on Venom, there will be a 50/50 roll to determine if the KO strikes Eddie or the symbiote. If the symbiote takes the hit, the KO will proceed as normal. If Eddie takes the hit, Venom will still be rosterable that day; however, Eddie will begin the battle dead in the center of the terrain, the symbiote will start with his teammates, and Eddie can only be revived by Venom returning to him.

Terrain

Life Foundation - The research facility as seen in Venom, emptied of all people and symbiotes.
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I lied, I have one more high tier match cause I want a bit of data on an old character, for a change. Next one will be a low tier match though, taking suggestions for people you'd like to see!

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The Doomslayer is as he appears in Doom 2016, equipped with all single player weapons and equipment, fully upgraded alongside his maxed out Praetor Suit, as well as the In-Flight Mobility, Equipment Power and Rich Get Richer runes, fully mastered. He may perform Glory Kills on opponents, which will not make him invulnerable, but will award health and ammo.

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Valla the Demon Hunter is as she appears in Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls, wielding dual Lianna's Wings crossbows. She has the skills Evasive Fire, Elemental Arrow, Shadow Power, Vault, Vengeance and Multishot, as well as the passives Steady Aim, Single Out and Hot Pursuit.

Terrain: The Void - A barren featureless landscape with no cover or anything to speak of. There is no obvious source of light, but visibility is clear and the terrain otherwise has similar gravity, atmosphere, etc to Earth. Teams start 100m from each other.

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Normally I'd say a 6/week vs a 7/week is a strong mismatch, but I can't help but wonder if the Demon Hunter wasn't overupkeeped in M4. This seems like a good chance to debut a new entrant and put her to the test.
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wait is Doomslayer that much more powerful than Doomguy?
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Johnbobb posted...

wait is Doomslayer that much more powerful than Doomguy?

Yes. They're not even the same character (literally, different backstories and all). The Slayer's lore is much better, his weapons are better, his armor is better, there's really no piece of him that wasn't massively improved. They took spectacle fighters like DMC and Bayonetta as a reference for how powerful they wanted you to feel while playing him and it really shows.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

I lied, I have one more high tier match cause I want a bit of data on an old character, for a change. Next one will be a low tier match though, taking suggestions for people you'd like to see!

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The Doomslayer is as he appears in Doom 2016, equipped with all single player weapons and equipment, fully upgraded alongside his maxed out Praetor Suit, as well as the In-Flight Mobility, Equipment Power and Rich Get Richer runes, fully mastered. He may perform Glory Kills on opponents, which will not make him invulnerable, but will award health and ammo.

~VS~

Valla the Demon Hunter is as she appears in Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls, wielding dual Lianna's Wings crossbows. She has the skills Evasive Fire, Elemental Arrow, Shadow Power, Vault, Vengeance and Multishot, as well as the passives Steady Aim, Single Out and Hot Pursuit.

Terrain: The Void - A barren featureless landscape with no cover or anything to speak of. There is no obvious source of light, but visibility is clear and the terrain otherwise has similar gravity, atmosphere, etc to Earth. Teams start 100m from each other.

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Normally I'd say a 6/week vs a 7/week is a strong mismatch, but I can't help but wonder if the Demon Hunter wasn't overupkeeped in M4. This seems like a good chance to debut a new entrant and put her to the test.

The consensus in Draft Mercs seemed to be that Demon Hunter was a trap, and I think some people wouldn't even give her credit as a 6.
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That's also a pretty awful terrain for Valla, since her talents are sniping, setting traps, etc. "You start a bit away from the heavy armed super gunman with no cover" is kind of lol
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DeathChicken posted...

That's also a pretty awful terrain for Valla, since her talents are sniping, setting traps, etc. "You start a bit away from the heavy armed super gunman with no cover" is kind of lol

Really? My thinking was that a big open terrain would allow her to make the most of her silly good acrobatics to try to kite the Slayer's firepower. Would something like uhh, say, Groznyj Grad be more balanced?
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"alright... oh wait"

OK, so assuming Groznyj Grad is a fairer environment, I think I'm gonna put the match up tomorrow. Hopefully it's an interesting one!
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ohhh

yeah i wasn't looking at tthe whole list

Putting the match up in an hour, ish, when I get home. Standby everyone!
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Match is live! You can find it here: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77104059
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is this a safe space for futa enthusiasts

that sure is a quote alright huh

So with the Slayer vs Demon Hunter match done, I'm taking suggestions for the next one while I work on some new stuff to show this weekend. I'm kinda feeling a low tier match - any notable characters that didn't feature in M4 you'd like to see get a shot, guys?
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Point Man from FEAR (unless you meant people with builds who didn't get used)
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http://mercsce.pbworks.com/w/page/113215489/Big%20Daddy
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Clementine as seen in Walking Dead Season 4 vs Ellie from The Last of Us
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Aloy (Horizon: Zero Dawn) and Cuphead would be interesting to see.
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DeathChicken posted...

Point Man from FEAR (unless you meant people with builds who didn't get used)

Pointman is kind of a 5/week (maybe a 6 even). Bit too strong for the tier

(He'll get his time in the sun eventually though, that's a promise)

Tirofog posted...

Aloy (Horizon: Zero Dawn) and Cuphead would be interesting to see.

What can Aloy do? I've got a rough idea of what Cuphead's capable of but not her.
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I would put Point Man as a 5, but he has scattered bugfuck feats like being on the outskirts of a nuclear explosion and only being knocked out by it
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

What can Aloy do? I've got a rough idea of what Cuphead's capable of but not her.

High tech Lara Croft?
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Aloy is probably a solid 4

Think modern Lara Croft but with cyber tech
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are you fucking kidding me
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the unibrain is strong in this one

hmm

Link (BotW) vs Aloy. Who ya got there?
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

the unibrain is strong in this one

hmm

Link (BotW) vs Aloy. Who ya got there?

I haven't gotten far enough into BotW, but from what I have seen Link being able to stop time fucks Aloy up.
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Link is pretty nutty if he gets his endgame tricks like the automatic Mipha revive
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Let's say he gets everything except Mipha's Grace (because it's kind of dirty to give him extra lives), including the Master Cycle Zero and all the runes, tools and blessings, and the following weapons and equipment: Lizal Tri-Boomerang, Iron Sledgehammer, Savage Lynel Crusher, True Master Sword, one of each Rod, one of each Ancient Weapon, Royal Guard's Claymore, Savage Lynel Bow and all arrows, Hylian Shield and Fierce Deity Armor Set.

(whew, that took some research to suss out)

Does that seem fair vs Aloy with everything except any broken stuff? I'll see what to give her in a little while.
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Man, he gets Ancient Arrows? Aloy goes boom
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That good? I'll freely admit I haven't played either of BotW or Horizon, so I'm not sure what crazy stuff the characters should keep or lose beyond the very obvious.
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They basically smush anything in the game that isn't a boss (including Guardians, which have like ten times as much HP as any other enemy)

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yikes that's pretty crazy

Like I knew the Ancient weapons were all very strong but they seemed pretty comparable to other options? Seems like ancient arrows are just a weird outlier. Would the match be roughly balanced if they were banned out?
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make sure Aloy gets the Shield-Weaver armor
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DeathChicken posted...

Venom
Neutral Male Human/Otherwordly
6/week

Eddie Brock is as he appears in Venom, wearing the Venom symbiote with all shown abilities (no comic feats). Eddie and Venom must both be defeated for them to be eliminated.

Lethal Protector (Peacetime/Trigger) - If there's one thing Venom hates, it's an evil doer who doesn't know when to stop. Each week during Peacetime, Venom may declare one allied merc on his team to be under his protection. During that week's Wartime, any Villainous enemy abilities targeting that merc will be met by an appropriate reprisal; the first ability used will result in the offending enemy battling that day without either of their arms. The second ability used will result in the enemy battling without arms or legs. The third ability used will result in Venom saying fuck it and biting their head off for a KO. If any of these results are reached, Lethal Protector will go on recharge for two weeks.

Ability Upgrade

New Ability

WE ARE VENOM! (Trigger) - While there may technically be nothing keeping Venom from finding another host if Eddie dies, gosh darn it, they're both losers and they're in this together. Should any KO ability land on Venom, there will be a 50/50 roll to determine if the KO strikes Eddie or the symbiote. If the symbiote takes the hit, the KO will proceed as normal. If Eddie takes the hit, Venom will still be rosterable that day; however, Eddie will begin the battle dead in the center of the terrain, the symbiote will start with his teammates, and Eddie can only be revived by Venom returning to him.

Terrain

Life Foundation - The research facility as seen in Venom, emptied of all people and symbiotes.

I would want Venom to be like Samus where he can be rostered as a 3/week if he takes on someone else as a host
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