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Full Throttle
06/28/18 12:20:28 AM
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Do you think abortion and gay marriage should be banned again? - Results (18 votes)
Yes. It's time to make America Great Again by going back to its FAMILY ROOTS and live by the rules of GOD
16.67% (3 votes)
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Yes to abortion because it's disgusting but not gay marriage, that should remain legal
11.11% (2 votes)
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Yes to gay marriage because it's wrong but not abortion, that should be a choice
5.56% (1 vote)
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No, any reversal to change this is a disgusting turn of democracy and rights
66.67% (12 votes)
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I honestly don't care because these issues don't matter to me so ban it, don't ban it, i could give a damn about these p
0% (0 votes)
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Conservative groups are seizing on the news on the retirement of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy as an opportunity to finally overturn landmark social cases such as Roe v Wade and Gay Marriage!!

Bob Vander Plaats, the president and CEO of the right-wing group The Family Leader said that his departure finally gives them a chance to take control of America as Trump PROMISED them that he will pay them back the favour of putting him in the white house and to bring America back to its "family roots"

He said "We have a chance to take down Roe v Wade. This is a historic moment in the pro-life community today."

He is a conservative kingmaker in Iowa who said now is the time to finally end gay marriage and said "I think God's design is for marriage and family. We will revert back to that. Marriage needs to be debated again. President Trump has committed to us on the campaign that he would return the favour for putting him in the white house and we certainly see this opportunity to do that"

The retirement will certainly push the bench to the far right as Trump will likely replace him with someone already published in a list of legal minds as he Republicans want to vote on this asap before the midterm elections.

CNN Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin also predicted that 20 states will pass laws BANNINGabortions outright because they know they are going to be the 5 votes to overturn Roe v Wade where abortion will be illegal in a significant part of the United States

Other anti-abortion activists echoed that as Susan B. Anthony said "This marks a pivotal moment for the fight to ensure every unborn child is welcomed and protected under the law"

Trump vowed to nominate pro-life justices and to overturn abortion during his tenure as he will make a 2 for 1 kill on progressive laws passed.

Kennedy, though a conservative himself was more of a moderate who was the swing vote on abortion and gay rights though voted for Trump's muslim ban

The Trump presidency has already spurred a wave of abortion laws with 19 states adopting 63 restrictions in 2017, the highest since 2014 as anti-abortion groups and Republican State governments hope to challenge Roe v Wade

The Senate has the sole authority to approve the nomination with a 51 seat majority

Do you think Roe v Wade and Gay Marriage should be banned again?

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DarkTransient
06/28/18 12:23:04 AM
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Trump never promised to ban gay marriage. The closest he came to that was saying "it should be up to the individual states to decide", and he really doesn't seem to even be that fussed about that.
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CableZL
06/28/18 12:24:03 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Trump never promised to ban gay marriage. The closest he came to that was saying "it should be up to the individual states to decide", and he really doesn't seem to even be that fussed about that.


Trump said he would strongly consider appointing judges that would overturn the gay marriage ruling.
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gguirao
06/28/18 12:25:24 AM
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Not gay marriage.
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kingdrake2
06/28/18 12:26:07 AM
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i only agree abortion should be banned but exceptions can be made in cases where it puts the mother's life in danger or something in case of "Rape" or other criminal charge that the man commits to get the women pregnant. if parent's don't want the kid when its born. they need to leave it at the hospital.

that's why there's that law that protects children if left at a hospital or fire house.
other's don't like my opinion but that is how i prefer it be.

as far as gay marriage, it's fine as it is.
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DavidWong
06/28/18 12:28:21 AM
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You Americans are fucked

I'd be bailing that country if I lived there
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DarkTransient
06/28/18 12:31:14 AM
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CableZL posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Trump never promised to ban gay marriage. The closest he came to that was saying "it should be up to the individual states to decide", and he really doesn't seem to even be that fussed about that.


Trump said he would strongly consider appointing judges that would overturn the gay marriage ruling.

Overturning a ruling that all states must allow it, is not equal to banning it. In fact, it's perfectly in line with "leave it up to the states".
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CableZL
06/28/18 12:32:38 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Overturning a ruling that all states must allow it, is not equal to banning it. In fact, it's perfectly in line with "leave it up to the states".


Which opens the door to people needing to move to certain states in order to not be treated as second class citizens. Certain states WILL ban it if given the opportunity.

Human/civil rights issues should be the same across all states.
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tremain07
06/28/18 12:32:59 AM
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these people are the ones Trump knows he has to appease as they are part of his base, he can't shit on them without consequences so yeah, good bye gay marriage and abortion as well as other protection rights that community may have gotten. Well the Democrats and liberals make a stink about it? Yes, but once they do the right will attack them for forcing more SJWism on people , even blame them for this being overturned citing some nonsense and maybe even reminding liberals that Clinton and Obama were anti-gay in the past as well.

It's gonna happen, it's gonna suck and the only people happy will be the dicks who get off on the suffering of others they deem unamerican. Remember, to republicans America is a christian nation that is soly defined on Christian values, doesn't mean those values have to be personally upheld by them of course.
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DarkTransient
06/28/18 12:33:38 AM
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CableZL posted...
DarkTransient posted...
Overturning a ruling that all states must allow it, is not equal to banning it. In fact, it's perfectly in line with "leave it up to the states".


Which opens the door to people needing to move to certain states in order to not be treated as second class citizens. Certain states WILL ban it if given the opportunity.

Human/civil rights issues should be the same across all states.


I'm not stating any opinion at all on the matter itself. If you must know, I'm personally in favor of that it should be legal nationwide.

I'm simply arguing against the claim that Trump ever said he'd ban it.
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kingdrake2
06/28/18 12:34:02 AM
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Conflict posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
i only agree abortion should be banned but exceptions can be made in cases where it puts the mother's life in danger or something in case of "Rape" or other criminal charge that the man commits to get the women pregnant. if parent's don't want the kid when its born. they need to leave it at the hospital.

that's why there's that law that protects children if left at a hospital or fire house.
other's don't like my opinion but that is how i prefer it be.

as far as gay marriage, it's fine as it is.


Why did you put rape in quotation marks


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Sayoria
06/28/18 12:35:05 AM
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So glad I live in Massachusetts. Fuck this administration.
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Ving_Rhames
06/28/18 12:35:28 AM
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Greatest country in the world btw
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hockeybub89
06/28/18 12:48:42 AM
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Can't wait for these people to die out. Hopefully we don't have Sharia before then.
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Sayoria
06/28/18 1:02:42 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Can't wait for these people to die out. Hopefully we don't have Sharia before then.


Same. Thank God that most of them are old fucks. Hurry and expire you future-destroying Hellians.
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Capn Circus
06/28/18 1:09:12 AM
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In 2017, 40% of Republicans supported same sex marriage. In 2012, that number was 25%. Democrat support has also been increasing. 62% in 2012 and 73% in 2017 (http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/)

And I support same sex marriage. I don't consider myself a Republican, but many on this board would certainly align me with the party, but I don't really blame them for doing so.
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kingdrake2
06/28/18 10:49:51 AM
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i was having one of those "episodes" again :(.
mental issues.
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creativerealms
06/28/18 11:04:19 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
Trump never promised to ban gay marriage. The closest he came to that was saying "it should be up to the individual states to decide", and he really doesn't seem to even be that fussed about that.

Yeah but that doesn't change his main supporters from believing he will.
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Abyssea
06/28/18 11:05:33 AM
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oh well, not like I was getting married anytime soon anyway.
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voldothegr8
06/28/18 11:07:56 AM
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Liberals: Not a god damn word that comes from Trump's mouth can be trusted, all he does is lie!

Also liberals: OMG Trump said he's going to kill abortion and gay marriage and I believe him!
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SageHarpuia
06/28/18 11:09:37 AM
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I would prefer gay marriage go back to the states where it belongs. Abortion should be banned outright unless it puts the mother at risk.
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CableZL
06/28/18 11:20:42 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
I would prefer gay marriage go back to the states where it belongs. Abortion should be banned outright unless it puts the mother at risk.


If gay marriage goes back to the states, then some states will ban gay marriage. That means certain people will have to move to other states in order to not be treated as second class citizens.
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Abyssea
06/28/18 11:22:27 AM
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CableZL posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
I would prefer gay marriage go back to the states where it belongs. Abortion should be banned outright unless it puts the mother at risk.


If gay marriage goes back to the states, then some states will ban gay marriage. That means certain people will have to move to other states in order to not be treated as second class citizens.


yea, that's insane. No reason why it should be left up to the states. People shouldn't have to move across the country just to get married and have their marriage respected.
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SageHarpuia
06/28/18 11:24:52 AM
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Just because the government recognizes a marriage doesn't mean it's respected
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Uncle Choad
06/28/18 11:25:40 AM
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Hilarious
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foreveraIone
06/28/18 11:26:41 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Liberals: Not a god damn word that comes from Trump's mouth can be trusted, all he does is lie!

Also liberals: OMG Trump said he's going to kill abortion and gay marriage and I believe him!

why do you do this?
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Abyssea
06/28/18 11:26:56 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Just because the government recognizes a marriage doesn't mean it's respected


As long as it is respected from a legal standpoint, that is enough for me. You can't ask for much more than that in some of these places.
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HylianFox
06/28/18 11:28:35 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Liberals: Not a god damn word that comes from Trump's mouth can be trusted, all he does is lie!

Also liberals: OMG Trump said he's going to kill abortion and gay marriage and I believe him!

FACT: It's impossible to predict what Trump will say/do from one day to the next.

You know, like some sort of crazy person...
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foreveraIone
06/28/18 11:29:02 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
foreveraIone posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Liberals: Not a god damn word that comes from Trump's mouth can be trusted, all he does is lie!

Also liberals: OMG Trump said he's going to kill abortion and gay marriage and I believe him!

why do you do this?


Probably some weird joy he (and others like him) get out of attempting to upset others for the sake of their reaction. I honestly think it boils down to desiring control for most people.

its so weird seeing r/the_donald posting here.
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Uncle Choad
06/28/18 11:30:33 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
foreveraIone posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Liberals: Not a god damn word that comes from Trump's mouth can be trusted, all he does is lie!

Also liberals: OMG Trump said he's going to kill abortion and gay marriage and I believe him!

why do you do this?


Probably some weird joy he (and others like him) get out of attempting to upset others for the sake of their reaction. I honestly think it boils down to desiring control for most people.

its so weird seeing r/the_donald posting here.


This board is full of unemployed losers. It's an easy target, tbh.
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CableZL
06/28/18 11:30:55 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Just because the government recognizes a marriage doesn't mean it's respected


Respected in the legal sense is the only thing that's important. I don't give a shit if person A approves/respects person B and C's marriage. For the life of me, I don't understand why person A cares at all about person B and C getting married unless person A is romantically interested in person B or C.
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SageHarpuia
06/28/18 11:31:31 AM
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Abyssea posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Just because the government recognizes a marriage doesn't mean it's respected


As long as it is respected from a legal standpoint, that is enough for me. You can't ask for much more than that in some of these places.

Then move somewhere that respects your values.
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Abyssea
06/28/18 11:31:50 AM
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CableZL posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Just because the government recognizes a marriage doesn't mean it's respected


Respected in the legal sense is the only thing that's important. I don't give a shit if person A approves/respects person B and C's marriage. For the life of me, I don't understand why person A cares at all about person B and C getting married unless person A is romantically interested in person B or C.


I guess because they might have to *gasp* stamp marriage paperwork for gay couples! oh the humanity....
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CableZL
06/28/18 11:32:07 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Then move somewhere that respects your values.


Again, people shouldn't have to move to different states to avoid being treated as second class citizens.
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Abyssea
06/28/18 11:32:12 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Abyssea posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Just because the government recognizes a marriage doesn't mean it's respected


As long as it is respected from a legal standpoint, that is enough for me. You can't ask for much more than that in some of these places.

Then move somewhere that respects your values.


that's crazy.
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DarthWendy
06/28/18 11:32:32 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
The Senate has the sole authority to approve the nomination with a 51 seat majority

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voldothegr8
06/28/18 11:33:33 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Liberals: Not a god damn word that comes from Trump's mouth can be trusted, all he does is lie!

Also liberals: OMG Trump said he's going to kill abortion and gay marriage and I believe him!

why do you do this?

Do what, point out blatant liberal hypocrisy?
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SageHarpuia
06/28/18 11:33:44 AM
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You're trying to force change in society, it doesn't work like that.
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HylianFox
06/28/18 11:33:51 AM
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CableZL posted...
Again, people shouldn't have to move to different states to avoid being treated as second class citizens.

And foreigners shouldn't have to flee to America where they get treated as criminals

What're ya gonna do?
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foreveraIone
06/28/18 11:34:46 AM
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nobody wants to live in shithole arkansas so thats fine.
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Abyssea
06/28/18 11:35:18 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
You're trying to force change in society, it doesn't work like that.


It has worked so far... why change things if they are working? just to spite people?
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HylianFox
06/28/18 11:36:48 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
You're trying to force change in society, it doesn't work like that.

Ironically, you probably support US involvement in the Middle East
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SageHarpuia
06/28/18 11:36:49 AM
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Marriage is not a human right
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Abyssea
06/28/18 11:38:24 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Marriage is not a human right


In your opinion. You're in the minority.
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