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CyricZ
06/27/18 8:11:30 AM
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if there was a time machine, we all could return to being 19.

Clearly some of us never leave.
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PanzerElite
06/27/18 8:12:27 AM
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averagejoel posted...
the Panzer was also not used by socialists, as I'm sure you know


Not that kind of socialist anyway...
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averagejoel
06/27/18 8:13:20 AM
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PanzerElite posted...
averagejoel posted...
the Panzer was also not used by socialists, as I'm sure you know


Not that kind of socialist anyway...

stop this. the nazis were not socialist
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scar the 1
06/27/18 8:16:39 AM
#54:


averagejoel posted...
PanzerElite posted...
averagejoel posted...
the Panzer was also not used by socialists, as I'm sure you know


Not that kind of socialist anyway...

stop this. the nazis were not socialist

omg don't
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Balrog0
06/27/18 9:29:09 AM
#55:


Phantom_Nook posted...
This is a really bad take.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Azi/status/1011795377316655104


what's wrong with it?

my big problem with it is that the Dem's path to the house probably goes through California, New York, and Florida rather than the Midwest
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Antifar
06/27/18 9:35:09 AM
#56:


Republicans are going to call the Democrats socialist no matter who is in the House; if you cater all your actions to what they'll think, you've already lost.
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Balrog0
06/27/18 9:41:21 AM
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it isn't about republicans, though. most of the leftist candidates lost last night, even in new york.
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P4wn4g3
06/27/18 10:18:53 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
it isn't about republicans, though. most of the leftist candidates lost last night, even in new york.

Was there a primary last night?
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Dagon_0
06/27/18 10:20:28 AM
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This is great news.
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Fate
06/27/18 12:26:59 PM
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averagejoel posted...
PanzerElite posted...
averagejoel posted...
the Panzer was also not used by socialists, as I'm sure you know

Not that kind of socialist anyway...

stop this. the nazis were not socialist

Read Serfdom.
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Balrog0
06/27/18 12:32:54 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
it isn't about republicans, though. most of the leftist candidates lost last night, even in new york.

Was there a primary last night?


yeah, there were several. I only really followed New York and Colorado though
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P4wn4g3
06/27/18 12:42:57 PM
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Oh so Colorado decided it needed to go red?
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Balrog0
06/27/18 12:47:36 PM
#63:


I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
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P4wn4g3
06/27/18 12:55:08 PM
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You said left candidates lost. I assume if Colorado was up for primaries it went red.
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Antifar
06/27/18 12:55:45 PM
#65:


P4wn4g3 posted...
You said left candidates lost. I assume if Colorado was up for primaries it went red.

Do you know what primaries are? The left candidates lost to Democrats
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Balrog0
06/27/18 12:56:42 PM
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leftist candidates in primaries lost in democratic primaries to more centrist democrats

in many ways, outside of this one race, last night was actually a pretty good night for more mainstream and typical candidates. there were three self-funding white male millionaires running against more progressive women, for instance. all three won, even though this election cycle in general has been good for women and candidates with less money
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Axiom
06/27/18 12:57:28 PM
#67:


OH NO A COMMIE

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P4wn4g3
06/27/18 12:57:46 PM
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Antifar posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
You said left candidates lost. I assume if Colorado was up for primaries it went red.

Do you know what primaries are? The left candidates lost to Democrats

Er right, don't mind me...
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RebelElite791
06/27/18 1:08:07 PM
#69:


DSA are trash and this is bad tbh

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OH NO A COMMIE

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I mean...she is.
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Balrog0
06/27/18 1:11:39 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
DSA are trash and this is bad tbh


you think so? I'm not even a socialist but I like it.

Part of the sickness in the national democratic party as an establishment or institution is that they are pretty bad about allowing a diversity of opinions in their caucus, especially when it comes to the more left-leaning members. They aren't as bad at allowing dissent from Joe Manchin types, because they have been dealing with that balancing act for a much longer time. But since the 1990s, at least, there has been very little room for true leftists in the Democratic coalition. I think that's bad for democrats both in term of substantive policy position, but also politicking.
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Fate
06/27/18 1:12:27 PM
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DSA are extremists
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Antifar
06/27/18 1:13:06 PM
#72:


RebelElite791 posted...
DSA are trash and this is bad tbh

What is bad about it?
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DarthAragorn
06/27/18 1:13:42 PM
#73:


Balrog0 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
DSA are trash and this is bad tbh


you think so? I'm not even a socialist but I like it.

Part of the sickness in the national democratic party as an establishment or institution is that they are pretty bad about allowing a diversity of opinions in their caucus, especially when it comes to the more left-leaning members. They aren't as bad at allowing dissent from Joe Manchin types, because they have been dealing with that balancing act for a much longer time. But since the 1990s, at least, there has been very little room for true leftists in the Democratic coalition. I think that's bad for democrats both in term of substantive policy position, but also politicking.

Diversity of opinions is fine

But communists don't deserve to be heard
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Balrog0
06/27/18 1:22:19 PM
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she's not a communist

she's actually not really a socialist, either!

she is a member of the democratic socialists of america
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Fate
06/27/18 1:27:19 PM
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DSA is a revolutionary marxist organization doe
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Balrog0
06/27/18 1:28:43 PM
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until like 2 months ago it was mostly a social club that fixed tail lights for free Im p sure
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Balrog0
06/27/18 1:52:24 PM
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wow, so in Oklahoma, there were more votes cast in this year's primary election than there were votes cast in the general election in 2014

I heard it was a bad night for incumbent GOP state legislators, but its tough to find state level coverage in flyover america
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Fate
06/27/18 1:52:31 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Balrog0 posted...
she's not a communist

she's actually not really a socialist, either!

she is a member of the democratic socialists of america

Gonna have to get used to saying this for a while, people are pretty dumb

It's not fascism actually it's democratic fascism. Gosh
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Fate
06/27/18 1:54:19 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Fate posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Balrog0 posted...
she's not a communist

she's actually not really a socialist, either!

she is a member of the democratic socialists of america

Gonna have to get used to saying this for a while, people are pretty dumb

It's not fascism actually it's democratic fascism. Gosh

Are you ok?

I'm just pointing out the irony.
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Balrog0
06/27/18 1:54:26 PM
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http://www.newson6.com/story/38518573/bad-night-for-gop-state-lawmaker-incumbents-who-opposed-taxes

Pro-Education Candidates Score Oklahoma Primary Wins

TULSA, Oklahoma - At least six Republican incumbents were voted out of office Tuesday, including several targeted by pro-education groups.
Tuesday's primary was the first test for many of the nearly 100 teachers who are running for office in Oklahoma.

Their campaigns come after a year that saw tens of thousands of educators walk off their job for two weeks to protest dwindling funding for schools.

Several GOP incumbents who voted against tax hikes to fund teacher pay raises were either ousted from office or pulled into a runoff.

Of the 10 "No" voters in the state House who were running for re-election, two were defeated outright on Tuesday night. Chuck Strohm of Jenks and Scott McEachin of Tulsa. Seven others ended up in an August primary runoff against fellow Republicans.

Teacher candidates say that kind of reaction bodes well for them in November.

Four other Republican incumbents lost on Tuesday, including one who lost to a teacher.
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06/27/18 1:55:49 PM
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Fate
06/27/18 1:57:41 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Fate posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Fate posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Balrog0 posted...
she's not a communist

she's actually not really a socialist, either!

she is a member of the democratic socialists of america

Gonna have to get used to saying this for a while, people are pretty dumb

It's not fascism actually it's democratic fascism. Gosh

Are you ok?

I'm just pointing out the irony.

...do you not know what irony is?

It's ironic on the part of antifa types. If you're a self-identified "democratic socialist" who isn't intolerant of your political and moral equivalents then I don't really care about you. But fascism and socialism are two sides of the same coin as Friedrich Hayek so eloquently pointed out many years ago in Road to Serfdom.
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 2:01:25 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
http://www.newson6.com/story/38518573/bad-night-for-gop-state-lawmaker-incumbents-who-opposed-taxes

That's how representation is supposed to work, instead of a political 'incumbent' class being a regular thing.
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hortanz
06/27/18 2:03:11 PM
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this was the obvious outcome when crowley didn't even bother to show up for a debate with her
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RebelElite791
06/27/18 2:19:40 PM
#90:


Balrog0 posted...
she's not a communist

she's actually not really a socialist, either!

she is a member of the democratic socialists of america

DSA are absolutely socialists unless shes different from every rose avatar idiot ive ever seen on Twitter.
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hortanz
06/27/18 2:20:23 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
she's not a communist

she's actually not really a socialist, either!

she is a member of the democratic socialists of america

DSA are absolutely socialists unless shes different from every rose avatar idiot ive ever seen on Twitter.

Antifar posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
DSA are trash and this is bad tbh

What is bad about it?

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Antifar
06/27/18 2:21:28 PM
#92:


Balrog0 posted...
wow, so in Oklahoma, there were more votes cast in this year's primary election than there were votes cast in the general election in 2014

I heard it was a bad night for incumbent GOP state legislators, but its tough to find state level coverage in flyover america

There was also a vote on legalizing marijuana (maybe just medically? Not sure)
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Balrog0
06/27/18 2:21:35 PM
#93:


RebelElite791 posted...
DSA are absolutely socialists unless shes different from every rose avatar idiot ive ever seen on Twitter.


some members of the DSA are actually socialists, she is a pretty typical progressive democrat with no real plans on seizing the memes of production
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Questionmarktarius
06/27/18 2:22:31 PM
#94:


Balrog0 posted...
seizing the memes of production

Awesome typo is awesome.
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Fate
06/27/18 2:23:03 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
DSA are absolutely socialists unless shes different from every rose avatar idiot ive ever seen on Twitter.

some members of the DSA are actually socialists, she is a pretty typical progressive democrat with no real plans on seizing the memes of production

So, yeah, would this excuse fly if there were an equivalent organization with "some" fascists that had representation in Congress?

Inb4 deflections with bronal brumpf lolz.
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Axiom
06/27/18 2:23:10 PM
#96:


Balrog0 posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
DSA are absolutely socialists unless shes different from every rose avatar idiot ive ever seen on Twitter.


some members of the DSA are actually socialists, she is a pretty typical progressive democrat with no real plans on seizing the memes of production

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Balrog0
06/27/18 2:26:52 PM
#97:


Fate posted...
So, yeah, would this excuse fly if there were an equivalent organization with "some" fascists that had representation in Congress?

Inb4 deflections with bronal brumpf lolz.


what 'excuse' are you talking about?
if there was a sizable portion of the country that identified as fascists and there was popular support for self-identified fascism but some of the people who were involved in that movement were not themselves fascist, I would point that out too

however that isn't how fascism as a political label works.
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Blue_Inigo
06/27/18 2:27:25 PM
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Can someone explain to me why this is a big deal? Is this woman basically a third party?
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Fate
06/27/18 2:32:47 PM
#99:


Balrog0 posted...
Fate posted...
So, yeah, would this excuse fly if there were an equivalent organization with "some" fascists that had representation in Congress?

Inb4 deflections with bronal brumpf lolz.

what 'excuse' are you talking about?
if there was a sizable portion of the country that identified as fascists and there was popular support for self-identified fascism but some of the people who were involved in that movement were not themselves fascist, I would point that out too

however that isn't how fascism as a political label works.

If you would, then that's fine, I just think it's fair to say that a lot of people in the DSA crowd aren't that tolerant. Not to say that's not true of both sides of course but still. I don't even think identifying as a "socialist" or even "communist" is all that bad as long as you're honest about it and don't want to oppress people, I just think that people deserve to have their ideas represented in a republican system regardless of what they are. Which is why everyone hates the 2-party system obv.
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P4wn4g3
06/27/18 2:35:07 PM
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Socialist is third party in America yes. It's kind of like Democrats classical speaking except it actually has an economic platform. And it tends to be more left leaning than the failure that is the American Democratic party. And it has a social platform that is comprised of more than just "we aren't republicans" .
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