Current Events > NYT, 1934: "Jews need to be nicer to Nazis"

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Drasilor
06/26/18 5:00:51 PM
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Because as stated before, Hitler and the Nazis didn't care whether Jews were nice or not. You know this, you've been educated on this in school. Stop trolling


"Educated on this in school"

Boi dat logical fallacy. You must still believe 6 million jews died.
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TheCyborgNinja
06/26/18 5:00:59 PM
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Apparently a poll taken after WWII in the USA revealed Americans considered Jews the number one threat to national security at that time. And this:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/23/nazi-german-american-bund-rally-madison-square-garden-215522
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UnfairRepresent
06/26/18 5:03:07 PM
#53:


Drasilor posted...


Boi dat logical fallacy. You must still believe 6 million jews died.

wut

They did.

It was horrible.
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UnfairRepresent
06/26/18 5:04:09 PM
#54:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Apparently a poll taken after WWII in the USA revealed Americans considered Jews the number one threat to national security at that time. And this:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/23/nazi-german-american-bund-rally-madison-square-garden-215522

"After WW2 a poll said a thing... And THIS" (links to 1939)

Erm....

Should I tell him or does someone else want to?
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UnfairRepresent
06/26/18 5:09:09 PM
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Imagine enjoying making fun of people who lived almost 100 years ago.

80*
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Drasilor
06/26/18 5:12:18 PM
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Drasilor posted...
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Because as stated before, Hitler and the Nazis didn't care whether Jews were nice or not. You know this, you've been educated on this in school. Stop trolling


"Educated on this in school"

Boi dat logical fallacy. You must still believe 6 million jews died.


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Yeah, not even touching this one. I'll just get suspended again


Excuses
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Dash_Harber
06/26/18 5:13:28 PM
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People tend to forget that institutionalized racism was 100% okay pre-WWII and that literally every country empathized with the Nazis initially, as the Treaty of Versailles crippled Germany and most countries thought their anger at that was 'justified'. Of course it wasn't and the Nazis were an unforgivable blight on mankind, but the point is that most countries (including the US and Britain) were pretty sympathetic to them up until the full war broke out.
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FrisbeeDude
06/26/18 5:19:17 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Imagine enjoying making fun of people who lived almost 100 years ago.


If anything, people now are being clowned imploring the same loser logic (if you're nicer to your aggressors, they wont oppress you as much) white people tried to use 100 years ago
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TheCyborgNinja
06/26/18 5:22:14 PM
#66:


UnfairRepresent posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Apparently a poll taken after WWII in the USA revealed Americans considered Jews the number one threat to national security at that time. And this:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/23/nazi-german-american-bund-rally-madison-square-garden-215522

"After WW2 a poll said a thing... And THIS" (links to 1939)

Erm....

Should I tell him or does someone else want to?

Uh, I was talking about two fucking separate things. Hence the "AND this:" when I changed subjects. Look up "history of antisemitism in the United States" on Wikipedia for cited statistics on the polls. That's where I read it a while ago. Reading comprehension...
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Drasilor
06/26/18 5:26:11 PM
#67:


Conflict posted...
Drasilor posted...
Conflict posted...
Drasilor posted...
Conflict posted...
Because as stated before, Hitler and the Nazis didn't care whether Jews were nice or not. You know this, you've been educated on this in school. Stop trolling


"Educated on this in school"

Boi dat logical fallacy. You must still believe 6 million jews died.


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Yeah, not even touching this one. I'll just get suspended again


Excuses


I'm curious what other dumbass conspiracy theories you believe in since you're a holocaust denier


Wanna bring up a time I said the holocaust didnt happen?
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Drasilor
06/26/18 5:28:27 PM
#68:


Dash_Harber posted...
People tend to forget that institutionalized racism was 100% okay pre-WWII and that literally every country empathized with the Nazis initially, as the Treaty of Versailles crippled Germany and most countries thought their anger at that was 'justified'. Of course it wasn't and the Nazis were an unforgivable blight on mankind, but the point is that most countries (including the US and Britain) were pretty sympathetic to them up until the full war broke out.


They don't want to believe that.
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frozenshock
06/26/18 5:39:56 PM
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@Drasilor posted...
Wanna bring up a time I said the holocaust didnt happen?


Meh. Denying the 6 million victims figure actually counts as holocaust denial in many places.

In any event, if you're basing yourself on those old newspaper articles that talk about 6 million jews being in peril in Russia, you have to be aware of this:

According to a 1897 census, there were about 5.2 million jews in Russia at that time. It's not really a stretch to estimate that there were 6 million jews in Russia in 1915.

The tsar's antisemitic policies led some to believe that jews in Russia were threatened by mass starvation or genocide. And so the newspapers wrote that there were six million jews in peril in Russia because that was a ballpark estimate of the jewish population in Russia at the time.

It's really just a coincidence that the amount of jews in Russia in 1915 and the amount of jews killed in the holocaust are both roughly six million.

But of course, the holocaust deniers have picked up on this to argue that the six million number is just made up.
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Drasilor
06/26/18 6:03:38 PM
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"Denying the 6 million victims figure actually counts as holocaust denial in many places"

Do you guys always move the goalpost?
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Dash_Harber
06/26/18 6:07:15 PM
#71:


Drasilor posted...
"Denying the 6 million victims figure actually counts as holocaust denial in many places"

Do you guys always move the goalpost?


Just for clarification, are you saying the holocaust didn't happen, or that the figures are wrong? And if it's the latter, what do you believe are the actual statistics?
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frozenshock
06/26/18 6:08:46 PM
#72:


Drasilor posted...
"Denying the 6 million victims figure actually counts as holocaust denial in many places"

Do you guys always move the goalpost?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Holocaust denial is the act of denying the genocide of Jews in the Holocaust during World War II.[1] It often includes the following claims: that Nazi Germany's Final Solution was aimed only at deporting Jews from the Reich but that it did not include the extermination of Jews; that Nazi authorities did not use extermination camps and gas chambers to mass murder Jews; or that the actual number of Jews killed was significantly lower than the historically accepted figure of 5 to 6 million, typically around a tenth of that figure.

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darkjedilink
06/26/18 6:14:45 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
And is that a bad strategy? If so, why?

Because Hitler didnt really care if Jews were nice or not

The guy was a paranoid conspiracy freak. He believed Jews were responsible for everything wrong in the world.

So do leftists and Muslim extremists.
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Drasilor
06/26/18 6:20:19 PM
#74:


frozenshock posted...
Drasilor posted...
"Denying the 6 million victims figure actually counts as holocaust denial in many places"

Do you guys always move the goalpost?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Holocaust denial is the act of denying the genocide of Jews in the Holocaust during World War II.[1] It often includes the following claims: that Nazi Germany's Final Solution was aimed only at deporting Jews from the Reich but that it did not include the extermination of Jews; that Nazi authorities did not use extermination camps and gas chambers to mass murder Jews; or that the actual number of Jews killed was significantly lower than the historically accepted figure of 5 to 6 million, typically around a tenth of that figure.


So......where did i deny the holocaust didnt happen?
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Darmik
06/26/18 6:29:26 PM
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Kinda shows how dumb the whole "You guys should be nicer to bigots/racists/Neo-Nazi's" argument we've been seeing a lot lately into perspective.
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Fate
06/26/18 6:30:14 PM
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interesting
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BWLurker2
06/26/18 7:11:54 PM
#78:


darkjedilink posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
And is that a bad strategy? If so, why?

Because Hitler didnt really care if Jews were nice or not

The guy was a paranoid conspiracy freak. He believed Jews were responsible for everything wrong in the world.

So do leftists and Muslim extremists.

Huh? Isn't it Trump supporters blaming all the woes of the world on Soros and his cabal of Jewish overlords?
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Bio1590
06/26/18 7:14:30 PM
#79:


Conflict posted...
Fenderbender suspended

And Drasilor lol
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Webmaster4531
06/26/18 7:16:41 PM
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Well at least holocaust denial is rightfully modded.
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BLAKUboy
06/26/18 7:18:33 PM
#81:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Well at least holocaust denial is rightfully modded.

It's sad we're on a site where that is actually shocking.
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Fate
06/26/18 7:18:38 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
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Fenderbender suspended

And Drasilor lol

Reminds me of a video I saw between Sargon and Cenk about the child separation and detention centers where Sargon was like "NO! this is VERY DIFFERENT from nazis!" while Cenk was low-key saying the holocaust was not as extreme as we think it is, and using that as a basis for a series of Trump and Hitler comparisons.
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Hop103
06/26/18 7:20:03 PM
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The fuck, that's old as shit, come on, it was a different time.
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Fate
06/26/18 7:21:47 PM
#84:


Hop103 posted...
The fuck, that's old as shit, come on, it was a different time.

And the author was probably just following his editor's orders.
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Antifar
06/26/18 7:24:59 PM
#85:


Hop103 posted...
The fuck, that's old as shit, come on, it was a different time.

There were people of that time who recognized how bad it was
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UnfairRepresent
06/27/18 2:46:47 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Conflict posted...
Fenderbender suspended

And Drasilor lol

ouch
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Dash_Harber
06/27/18 3:24:55 AM
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The fact that he quoted my post and agreed makes me feel like I have to point out that nothing about my post was denying the holocaust or saying casualties were smaller. I was just pointing out that the general public was much more comfortable with government mandated racism before WWII showed everyone how abominable it could be.
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