Current Events > Trump calls for violating the Constitution re: deporting illegal immigrants

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Bio1590
06/24/18 2:31:49 PM
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Also violates a previous ruling for the SCOTUS

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump/trump-calls-for-deporting-illegal-immigrants-with-no-judges-or-court-cases-idUSKBN1JK0OL?il=0

President Donald Trump said on Sunday that people who enter the United States illegally should be sent back immediately to where they came from without any judicial process, likening them to invaders who are trying to break into the country.

We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came, Trump said Sunday on Twitter.

Cannot accept all of the people trying to break into our Country. Strong Borders, No Crime!

It was unclear if Trump was advocating an expansion of the current law that allows expedited removal of illegal immigrants at the U.S. border, a policy his administration has embraced since he took office. Nor did Trump differentiate between illegal immigrants and people who entered the United States to seek asylum protection.

The White House did not immediately return a call seeking clarification.

Critics said his proposal would violate the U.S. Constitutions due process provision, which the Supreme Court has ruled also applies to non-citizens.

The president of the United States has just forcefully proposed the end of political asylum and no due process for migrants, Sherrilyn Ifill, president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, wrote on Twitter.

Lee Gelernt, the deputy director of the ACLUs Immigrants Rights Project, told Reuters: The administration cannot simply get rid of all process for immigrants. The due process clause absolutely applies. Its not a choice.

U.S. law does permit expedited deportations if an immigrant is apprehended within 100 miles (160 km) of the border and has been in the country for less than 14 days. Those seeking asylum must be granted a hearing.


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kingdrake2
06/24/18 2:34:07 PM
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trumps a flip flopper.

make up mind gawd damnit.
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ThePieReborn
06/24/18 2:34:54 PM
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Inb4theuneducatedopinethattheyhavenorights.
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kingdrake2
06/24/18 2:36:03 PM
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i have him tagged as promisepie.
doesn't make sense.
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frozenshock
06/24/18 2:37:41 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
that people who enter the United States illegally should be sent back immediately to where they came from without any judicial process


Okay.

But how do we know for sure that it's actually illegals who get sent back?

What about Pedro the Mexican who has been in the US for 40 years and became a US citizen but one day goes for a little health walk and for got his papers at home and gets snatched by ICE?

Are they going to allow him to go back home and get his documents to prove he's a citizen or are they going to just say he's an illegal and throw him on a train?
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ScazarMeltex
06/24/18 2:39:00 PM
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Kind of like that time he said forget due process and just take people's guns away.
Also remember that with no due process or constitutional protections there is no habeas corpus. Which means they could effectively do whatever they wanted with these people.
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kingdrake2
06/24/18 2:40:16 PM
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i don't think Trumps going to care much for pedro, he's getting shipped back regardless.
you know trump hates mexicans.

ever since the beauty pageant incident.
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lilORANG
06/24/18 2:40:22 PM
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"take the guns now, do the due process later"

he's never been a fan of the constitution.
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DemonBuffet
06/24/18 2:41:59 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
i don't think Trumps going to care much for pedro, he's getting shipped back regardless.
you know trump hates mexicans.

ever since the beauty pageant incident.


That. Fuck that racist pig.
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Roshon
06/24/18 2:48:52 PM
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Trump is loco
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LordRazziel
06/24/18 2:53:38 PM
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Luckily, he can't actually do this.
No matter how much be wants have the absolute power of a dictator, he can't.
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Unsugarized_Foo
06/24/18 2:55:12 PM
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If there is one good thing about Trump tryin' to Trump, it shows the system's rev limiter keeps power in check on some things
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kingdrake2
06/24/18 2:57:15 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Luckily, he can't actually do this.
No matter how much be wants have the absolute power of a dictator, he can't.


i would be surprised if he somehow found a way to accomplish this.
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slimfizzle2
06/24/18 2:58:13 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Bio1590 posted...
that people who enter the United States illegally should be sent back immediately to where they came from without any judicial process


Okay.

But how do we know for sure that it's actually illegals who get sent back?

What about Pedro the Mexican who has been in the US for 40 years and became a US citizen but one day goes for a little health walk and for got his papers at home and gets snatched by ICE?

Are they going to allow him to go back home and get his documents to prove he's a citizen or are they going to just say he's an illegal and throw him on a train?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/24/18 3:02:25 PM
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Operation Wetback sounds like it belongs in an Adam Sandler movie from the mid 90's
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littlebro07
06/24/18 3:07:46 PM
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Redhats: Dear Leader Trump is not a dictator, god damn it. He just WANTS to be a dictator. MAGAMAGAMAGA
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Funbazooka
06/24/18 3:12:08 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Nor did Trump differentiate between illegal immigrants and people who entered the United States to seek asylum protection.


No one is assuming he's referring to asylum seekers.

Serious asylum seekers generally don't try to sneak in like illegal immigrants. They apply for it. That being said, there's a minority who apply for asylum once they're brought to immigration court. The applicant has the burden of proving that he (or she) is eligible for asylum. It's no easy task.

Point is, illegal immigration and asylum are two entirely different subjects but the media is intentionally trying to muddy the waters. It barely has anything to do with the discussion.

And the second half of his tweet they neglected to mention:

"....Our Immigration policy, laughed at all over the world, is very unfair to all of those people who have gone through the system legally and are waiting on line for years! Immigration must be based on merit - we need people who will help to Make America Great Again!"
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Duncanwii
06/24/18 3:24:20 PM
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I want to see him do it, just so we can get that buffoon out of office.
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