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Trayvon 06/23/18 3:37:51 PM #1: |
when these same types would never in a million years even let a random homeless person on the street or some urban youth stay in their homes til they work shit out to have a better life.
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue 06/23/18 3:39:04 PM #2: |
Because people are hypocrites. Its easy to say you believe in something, its harder to actually practice what you preach
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A_Good_Boy 06/23/18 3:40:47 PM #3: |
That doesn't make any sense. People demanding an end to abortion aren't turning around and adopting all of those unwanted kids, so why should people that advocate for refugees allow them in their homes?
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Webmaster4531 06/23/18 3:45:14 PM #5: |
I'd for sure wouldn't put homeless children in cages.
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bob742omb 06/23/18 3:47:39 PM #6: |
no i think we should resettle refugees and illegal immigrants into areas where support for them are the highest. that way they are put into a more welcoming community and there's the opportunity to increase diversity in an area. it's a win-win.
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Funbazooka 06/23/18 4:05:21 PM #7: |
Washington Post article
Why do we need more people in this country, anyway? https://tinyurl.com/y6u2b4m8 One side has made sure that there is no debate. Good people want more immigration, and bad people object or raise questions. An inherently political issue has been effectively rendered religious, with the righteous on one side, sinners on the other. Economists in league with big business got good at torturing data to show that immigration benefits the economy. But as demonstrated by Harvard Universitys George Borjas, one of the nations leading economists on the topic, immigration is a net economic benefit to immigrants and to their employers. To workers already here, not so much. No matter, because the Democrats are no longer the party of labor. Back when they were in the prelapsarian Clinton years they sought tight labor markets precisely for their efficacy in boosting lower-end wages. But todays Democrats are the party of high class, high tech and high capital. This glamour coalition is not big enough by itself to win elections. So the left has hoodwinked some (but, as the 2016 election shows, by no means all) low-income voters into thinking that their interests align with those of Wall Street and Silicon Valley oligarchs. Its clear what the oligarchs get out of an endless influx of cheap labor. What the Democratic Party gets is also clear: more voters, and with them the tantalizing possibility of turning the country as irreversibly blue as Democratic policies have already done to New York, California and many other states. Democrats used to be coy about this. The 2002 blockbuster The Emerging Democratic Majority, by John B. Judis, presented demographic change as an inevitability, not a deliberate plot to rig elections. But now, for the first time facing real pushback from those whose interests more immigration does not serve, the left is more open in exhorting their side and demonizing the other. Hence this years How Democracies Die, by Steven Levitsky, states openly that immigration favors Democrats, so the more the better. It also construes any opposition as (of course) racist. Another argument for more people is to point to falling birthrates among the native-born. In fact, the United States remains near the top of birthrates in the developed world. Regardless, consider that immigration not only lowers wages but also raises housing prices by increasing demand and stresses public schools by adding non-English-speaking students. And as such factors worsen, research suggests that people are putting off marriage which reduces birthrates. Related is the claim that more people are necessary to solve our looming entitlement crisis. This quickly falls apart once you think it through. In 1967, future Nobel laureate Paul Samuelson favorably compared Social Security to a Ponzi scheme, arguing that it will be sustainable because younger people will always outnumber retirees. But does anyone really believe the United States or any country is capable of sustaining population growth without end? Somehow, the United States needs to find a way to meet its fiscal commitments without stuffing the land beyond the bursting point. So again: Why do we need more people? For the extra traffic congestion? More crowded classrooms? Longer emergency room and Transportation Security Administration lines? Higher greenhouse-gas emissions? We know how more immigration benefits big business and the Democratic Party. No one has yet convincingly explained how it benefits the American people as a whole. Thats the foremost consideration that should drive our immigration debate, and thats what should determine our immigration policy. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 06/23/18 4:19:41 PM #8: |
Funbazooka posted...
But as demonstrated by Harvard Universitys George Borjas, one of the nations leading economists on the topic, immigration is a net economic benefit to immigrants and to their employers. To workers already here, not so much. Where can I get more details on this? Name dropping then dropping the argument altogether. Funbazooka posted... No matter, because the Democrats are no longer the party of labor. Back when they were in the prelapsarian Clinton years they sought tight labor markets precisely for their efficacy in boosting lower-end wages. But todays Democrats are the party of high class, high tech and high capital. More detail befor... Okay you're moving on. Funbazooka posted... This glamour coalition is not big enough by itself to win elections. So the left has hoodwinked some (but, as the 2016 election shows, by no means all) low-income voters into thinking that their interests align with those of Wall Street and Silicon Valley oligarchs. Okay this article is just throwing a bunch of opinions without explaining or proof. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 06/23/18 4:23:04 PM #9: |
What a stupid article.
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Hulkasaurusrex 06/23/18 4:27:48 PM #10: |
bob742omb posted...
no i think we should resettle refugees and illegal immigrants into areas where support for them are the highest. that way they are put into a more welcoming community and there's the opportunity to increase diversity in an area. it's a win-win. They have those in sweden they are called no go zones and women arent allowed uncovered. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bob742omb 06/23/18 4:36:49 PM #11: |
Hulkasaurusrex posted...
bob742omb posted...no i think we should resettle refugees and illegal immigrants into areas where support for them are the highest. that way they are put into a more welcoming community and there's the opportunity to increase diversity in an area. it's a win-win. nah i mean they should be put in areas where they're not already the majority. think vermont --- bob the buster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFNtqC0ETqo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 06/23/18 4:37:46 PM #12: |
it causes issues.
they take our jobs take our resources our dogs and jaws get broken. probably why the US wants to rid of em. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 06/23/18 4:37:50 PM #13: |
Because if you don't you're racist.
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HylianFox 06/23/18 4:40:41 PM #14: |
It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals
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DifferentialEquation 06/23/18 4:42:03 PM #15: |
HylianFox posted...
It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals They're not treated like garbage. The reason illegal immigrants are treated like criminals is because they are criminals. It is a crime to enter the country illegally. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 06/23/18 4:42:05 PM #16: |
HylianFox posted...
It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals Well illegal immigrants are criminals... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 06/23/18 4:44:06 PM #17: |
Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence?
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HylianFox 06/23/18 4:44:50 PM #18: |
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
HylianFox posted...It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals In the same way that jaywalking is a crime... --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 06/23/18 4:45:32 PM #19: |
Garioshi posted...
Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence? Because it's no one's responsibility to do so and it only brings negatives to you. You don't have to be a hero. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 06/23/18 4:48:42 PM #20: |
HylianFox posted...
It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals So like drunk drivers, drug dealers, robbers, people commiting fraud, stuff like that we shouldn't consider those people criminals? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 06/23/18 4:51:12 PM #21: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
people commiting fraud The president definitely should be treated like a criminal. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iodine 06/23/18 4:52:40 PM #22: |
Because of our declining birth rates we need more immigration.
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Garioshi 06/23/18 4:55:28 PM #23: |
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Garioshi posted...Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence? So, we should never even consider granting asylum to people fleeing violence and oppression? --- "Never seen a group of people more obsessed with a man's naked, hairy ass than the men at Current Events." -SBAllen 2018 We live in a society ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 06/23/18 4:56:04 PM #24: |
Iodine posted...
Because of our declining birth rates we need more immigration. but why why do we need more people --- A thousand eyes, and one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 06/23/18 5:02:24 PM #25: |
Garioshi posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...Garioshi posted...Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence? Didn't say that. I said exactly what I said. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/23/18 5:07:40 PM #26: |
Compassion by proxy, via demanding and eventually compelling someone else to cover the costs.
Margaret Thatcher told us how this ends: ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 06/23/18 5:15:57 PM #27: |
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
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GreatEvilEmpire 06/23/18 5:56:53 PM #28: |
We are taking in more people through LEGAL immigration. Illegal immigrants can stay the hell out.
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DarkTransient 06/23/18 6:00:33 PM #29: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
That doesn't make any sense. People demanding an end to abortion aren't turning around and adopting all of those unwanted kids, so why should people that advocate for refugees allow them in their homes? Because the people that advocate for refugees are generally the same ones that insist being anti-abortion creates an obligation to take in unwanted children. Yet look how keen they are to do the same with groups they want to support. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 06/23/18 6:01:31 PM #30: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Compassion by proxy, via demanding and eventually compelling someone else to cover the costs. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 06/23/18 6:04:17 PM #31: |
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Garioshi posted...RoboLaserGandhi posted...Garioshi posted...Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence? In what cases should we, then? --- "Never seen a group of people more obsessed with a man's naked, hairy ass than the men at Current Events." -SBAllen 2018 We live in a society ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 06/23/18 6:06:04 PM #32: |
DarkTransient posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...That doesn't make any sense. People demanding an end to abortion aren't turning around and adopting all of those unwanted kids, so why should people that advocate for refugees allow them in their homes? I'm not seeing the contradiction here. Being pro-refugee doesn't imply that you want them to live in either your or someone else's house. They'd be living in their own homes somewhere where in your country, state, or city. You'd still be living somewhere else on your own in your country, state, or city. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 06/23/18 6:07:17 PM #33: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
DarkTransient posted...A_Good_Boy posted...That doesn't make any sense. People demanding an end to abortion aren't turning around and adopting all of those unwanted kids, so why should people that advocate for refugees allow them in their homes? And being anti-abortion doesn't imply that you want to personally take care of the would-be abortion victims, any more than being anti-murder implies you want to personally take care of the would-be murder victims. They'd be living in their own home somewhere in your country, state or city. You'd still be living somewhere else on your own in your country, state or city. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 06/23/18 6:10:14 PM #34: |
Garioshi posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...Garioshi posted...RoboLaserGandhi posted...Garioshi posted...Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence? The only answer you'll get from him is none. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 06/23/18 6:15:07 PM #35: |
DarkTransient posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...DarkTransient posted...A_Good_Boy posted...That doesn't make any sense. People demanding an end to abortion aren't turning around and adopting all of those unwanted kids, so why should people that advocate for refugees allow them in their homes? ok --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Awesome 06/23/18 6:19:24 PM #36: |
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. "
* immigrants start to pour in the usa by the millions * ... .... * immigrant spots hipster liberal in nyc drinking starbucks, wearing puma shoes and talking on his iphone x " " ey amigo, can you spare $20 dollars? me and my family just came from mexico and are very hungry " democrat: " get a job you bum " --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Superlinkbro 06/23/18 6:21:22 PM #37: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
I'd for sure wouldn't put homeless children in cages. No one except a few select Republicans would. --- Basically the internet: https://youtu.be/M5Yqav2Juis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 06/23/18 6:23:10 PM #38: |
Awesome posted...
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. " *immigrant takes the democrat to heart and gets a job. The immigrants have tremendous initiative, are educated, and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.* Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!" --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 06/23/18 6:26:53 PM #39: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Awesome posted..." the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. " Where is the lie in either of these posts tho? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayerblade11 06/23/18 6:47:32 PM #40: |
Because Liberals believe that mass immigration is the greatest thing since sliced bread and if you disagree you're racist.
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A_Good_Boy 06/23/18 6:49:21 PM #41: |
Slayerblade11 posted...
Because Liberals believe that mass immigration is the greatest thing since sliced bread Imagine a US that never experienced mass immigration. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 06/23/18 6:50:58 PM #42: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!" It's funny, if any other word but republican was there you all would throw the biggest fit ever. Such hypocrites. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 06/23/18 7:49:22 PM #43: |
I pretend to not speak Spanish when a customer assumes I do and confidently walks up and starts asking their questions. Its amusing when they get upset and storm off. Unless its an elderly person because I would want my abuelita to be helped.
Last thing we need is more immigrants that dont make an effort to assimilate. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 06/23/18 8:09:38 PM #44: |
HylianFox posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...HylianFox posted...It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals This guy thinks jaywalking and illegally entering a sovereign nation is the same thing --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR ... Copied to Clipboard!
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knuxnole 06/23/18 8:20:20 PM #45: |
They are illegal
They deserve to go back to their country. Stop keeping them here The kids are being kept safe in those tent areas which is a positive thing --- 3DS FC: 4554-0309-4782 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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knuxnole 06/23/18 8:21:14 PM #46: |
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
HylianFox posted...It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals Exactly. They chose to commit a crime and they need to pay the price I have no sympathy for them. Its good for the kids too. I wouldnt want illegals in my neighborhood Some of them are scary to walk by, have to clutch my wallet, just like walking thru the projects lol --- 3DS FC: 4554-0309-4782 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 06/24/18 12:16:23 AM #47: |
knuxnole posted...
They chose to commit a crime and they need to pay the price Pretty much. It blows that these kids are paying the price but those parents gotta be blamed big time. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chrono625 06/24/18 12:28:30 AM #48: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.* How does this benefit anyone? --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CW_McGraw 06/24/18 12:59:28 AM #49: |
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...Compassion by proxy, via demanding and eventually compelling someone else to cover the costs. I always thought this was a dumb scene. Austin Powers would have been cryogenically frozen during Thatcher's rise to political prominence. It's conceivable he may have heard about her when she was a lower level English politician, but she assuredly wouldn't be the first person he would think of when imagining unattractive women to suppress his erection. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/24/18 2:26:44 AM #50: |
CW_McGraw posted...
I always thought this was a dumb scene. Austin Powers would have been cryogenically frozen during Thatcher's rise to political prominence. It's conceivable he may have heard about her when she was a lower level English politician, but she assuredly wouldn't be the first person he would think of when imagining unattractive women to suppress his erection. Don't apply logic and reason to Austin Powers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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