Current Events > Are bisexuality and pansexuality the same thing iyo?

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Context: I am pansexual and I see a lot of people who don't really acknowledge pansexuality as different than bisexuality.

For me, it's about being able to be with/find someone attractive regardless of if they abide by the gender binary, whereas bisexuality would imply that I'm strictly attracted to people who ONLY fall under the categories of cis men or women. Just my two cents; I don't think there's a right/wrong response to this tbh.

Curious to see what y'all's take on this is.
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Let's see what @smoliske thinks
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They're similar but not identical. I dunno why people are so against the idea of pansexuality. It's THEIR sexuality, why do we need to try to police the sexual orientations of others to that extent?

Personally, I think the more positive use of it would be that bisexuals prefer their men to be masculine and women to be feminine, and pansexuals don't really care about that. Which makes people seem to think they're just pretentious bisexuals?
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Being bi is not like a 50/50 equal attraction
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joestarrr posted...

whereas bisexuality would imply that I'm strictly attracted to people who ONLY fall under the categories of cis men or women

This is my problem with the term "pansexual". It seems to be implying anyone that's bi is closed-minded to people that are transgender.
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Why would bisexuality imply they are only interested in cis men and women? Im bisexual and I have been with transgender women
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And that's why I prefer the definition I put, since I've seen that one used as well.
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PhazonReborn posted...

Let's see what @smoliske thinks

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I've never agreed with someone just because I was with them.
I'd rather agree to disagree or just debate it until there's a middle ground. And I have a life so I don't have time to fight about dumb shit.
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joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

Let's see what @smoliske thinks

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I've never agreed with someone just because I was with them.
I'd rather agree to disagree or just debate it until there's a middle ground. And I have a life so I don't have time to fight about dumb shit.

Lmfao
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Kisai posted...

joestarrr posted...

whereas bisexuality would imply that I'm strictly attracted to people who ONLY fall under the categories of cis men or women

This is my problem with the term "pansexual". It seems to be implying anyone that's bi is closed-minded to people that are transgender.

Eeeh yeah that's a fair criticism that I've heard
Not quite sure where I stand on that; I should do a bit more research.
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PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

Let's see what @smoliske thinks

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I've never agreed with someone just because I was with them.
I'd rather agree to disagree or just debate it until there's a middle ground. And I have a life so I don't have time to fight about dumb shit.

Lmfao

you don't know me, so mind minding your own business? thanks
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HitTheGroundWal posted...

They're similar but not identical. I dunno why people are so against the idea of pansexuality. It's THEIR sexuality, why do we need to try to police the sexual orientations of others to that extent?

Personally, I think the more positive use of it would be that bisexuals prefer their men to be masculine and women to be feminine, and pansexuals don't really care about that. Which makes people seem to think they're just pretentious bisexuals?

EXACTLY. yeah that's kinda what my opinion is in a nutshell

Doe posted...

Being bi is not like a 50/50 equal attraction

true. im personally more attracted to women tbh
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joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

Let's see what @smoliske thinks

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I've never agreed with someone just because I was with them.
I'd rather agree to disagree or just debate it until there's a middle ground. And I have a life so I don't have time to fight about dumb shit.

Lmfao

you don't know me, so mind minding your own business? thanks

"Give me attention"!!!!
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PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

Let's see what @smoliske thinks

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I've never agreed with someone just because I was with them.
I'd rather agree to disagree or just debate it until there's a middle ground. And I have a life so I don't have time to fight about dumb shit.

Lmfao

you don't know me, so mind minding your own business? thanks

"Give me attention"!!!!

I ... never asked for attention or really wanted it from the citizens of CE so .......?????
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joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

Let's see what @smoliske thinks

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I've never agreed with someone just because I was with them.
I'd rather agree to disagree or just debate it until there's a middle ground. And I have a life so I don't have time to fight about dumb shit.

Lmfao

you don't know me, so mind minding your own business? thanks

"Give me attention"!!!!

I ... never asked for attention or really wanted it from the citizens of CE so .......?????

Lmfao
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PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

joestarrr posted...

PhazonReborn posted...

Let's see what @smoliske thinks

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I've never agreed with someone just because I was with them.
I'd rather agree to disagree or just debate it until there's a middle ground. And I have a life so I don't have time to fight about dumb shit.

Lmfao

you don't know me, so mind minding your own business? thanks

"Give me attention"!!!!

I ... never asked for attention or really wanted it from the citizens of CE so .......?????

Lmfao

If you really think I'm an attention whore, why are you posting in my topic?
That counts as "giving me attention".
That's on you.
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There's only genders.
You're either a man of you're a woman.
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Voted for same thing, but then thought: Hey I'd suck a dick if it belonged to a well kempt, handsome young man but I wouldn't long for their long term companionship, that's what the woman is for and that woman can suck my dick instead! I'd say pansexual is being 100% attracted to both sides instead of like 70/30 or something. No apache helicopters or the other 60 genders here!
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I don't really understand it simply because I don't get how there can be more than 2 genders

nothing against the label or people that use it thougb

It just seems like an absolutely pointless distinction imo.

Like, why would you even need to subscribe to label at that point? Just tell people you don't have an exclusive preference or something. It will have the same effect as telling people you're bi/pan/etc. It's not like most people will really care, either.

I've always been under the impression that bisexuals find only two genders attractive, but those genders can be cis or trans as long as they identify one way or the other.

Pansexuality is finding attraction to anyone. They can be attracted to people that are gender fluid, androgynous or otherwise don't identify as strictly a man or a woman.
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Honestly, I don't really have an opinion on the matter. Kinda... want to fight about dumb shit, just because that tends to lead to lulz... but don't really have the energy to full on shitpost so not really in a dumb shit fight mood tbh. I guess I'm just basically tagging.
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TC do you plan on having sex with smoliske in 12 days when you meet him?

everyones a little bi
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phazon seems to have some kind of stick up their ass

DoYouLikeMayo posted...

TC do you plan on having sex with smoliske in 12 days when you meet him?

She does
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TBH it's pretty transphobic to imply that the difference between being attracted to cis men/women and being attracted to trans men/women is so vast that it requires a whole different word.
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marthsheretoo posted...

TBH it's pretty transphobic to imply that the difference between being attracted to cis men/women and being attracted to trans men/women is so vast that it requires a whole different word.

Yea, thats how I took it too. But I guess theres people who identify as gender fluid or some such, but I still dont think that means bisexuals cant be attracted non-gender conforming people
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I still want an answer to my question.

Pansexual=joke
Bisexual=european
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Yes, absolutely
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All dis shit is confusing as fuck to me, just as long as dey are happy and not hurting anyone den we good
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Pansexuality is bisexuality with a little extra. It means you are also attracted to intersex people. A bisexual might not be into that. However, most people aren't faced with interactions with intersex people so it never even is a question to them. Which explains why most people don't know about or use the term pansexual.
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I thought bisexual was that you're not homosexual nor hetereosexual - you can be attracted to your own gender, but not exclusively.

And pansexual was basically gender doesn't matter, species wouldn't even matter so like, if intelligent aliens showed up and one had a personality a pansexual finds attractive then they can just as easily be into them as a homosexual would someone of their own gender for example. And so in the future when androids are vying for equality, and aliens are making contact, pansexuals will be leading the charge in having sex with them, those brave pioneers.
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I don't really understand how someone could be bi and not pan, but yeah they're different
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All of these labels are just social constructs! Not every little thing needs to be labeled and categorized and placed in a group! Everybody has different tastes, desires, attractions, connections, etc.

Arguing over these made up rules for made up things is dumb! I can be attracted to someone and/or have an emotional connection to someone regardless of who they are. I can do sexual stuff that feels good with anyone.

Voila

lol but seriously yall this is dumb stuff to argue about just like whatever you like and dont worry about it :3
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I want an answer to my question.

I love this accepting liberal insinuation that if youre involved with a transgender person you cant possibly be straight.

Really humanizing stuff.

Bi and Pan are the same damn thing, and I think its pretty damn offensive to state otherwise.
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bi means two, two genders.

it is offensive to imply someone could be bisexual

that's not how that works
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I'm pansexual, but I call myself bisexual because it's more generally recognized, and I don't think it's at all transphobic to conflate the two terms.
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We got to lose this need people have to feel straight and have constant self-reassurance against anything that could shatter their fragile little ego so they feel the need to act disgusted and repulsed by any gayness.

Homophobia = self hatred
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SSJCAT posted...

All of these labels are just social constructs! Not every little thing needs to be labeled and categorized and placed in a group! Everybody has different tastes, desires, attractions, connections, etc.

Arguing over these made up rules for made up things is dumb! I can be attracted to someone and/or have an emotional connection to someone regardless of who they are. I can do sexual stuff that feels good with anyone.

Voila

lol but seriously yall this is dumb stuff to argue about just like whatever you like and dont worry about it :3

This is the only good post in the topic.

It's bizarre to see so many of you debating and dogmatizing all this shit. Like a religion. Where a priesthood is establishing dogma / rules for everyone to follow and the more virtuous priests who are more steeped in the rhetoric and theology correct the lesser skilled theologians.

Like who you like, that's how simple this is. It's almost as if some people have fetishized the need to label everything and to build up this unnecessarily complex framework of sexuality. Wtf.
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SSJCAT posted...

We got to lose this need people have to feel straight and have constant self-reassurance against anything that could shatter their fragile little ego so they feel the need to act disgusted and repulsed by any gayness.

Homophobia = self hatred

What the fuck are you going on about? Wrong thread, Mac.
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

SSJCAT posted...

We got to lose this need people have to feel straight and have constant self-reassurance against anything that could shatter their fragile little ego so they feel the need to act disgusted and repulsed by any gayness.

Homophobia = self hatred

What the fuck are you going on about? Wrong thread, Mac.

I think thats where all these labels come from. People being so concerned about what sexuality they are. Its all pointless. Also am tired and drunk.
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I mean... having a label to describe yourself can be pretty nice?

I went years trying to figure out what was wrong with me that I didn't want to date people or have sex with them. I felt so broken I didn't see anyone and think "I want to have sex with them." like everyone else does, and like it's treated as being so normal to do, and if you don't, then you're wrong somehow. Everyone else went into those phases but I just... didn't. It was quite a relief to learn about the term Asexual because with a word for it, I didn't feel so broken.
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yes, i believe they are the same thing said a different way, but i don't mind that people want to call themselves pansexuals.
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I don't know, but Thermite did an episode about it
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Yea, they're the same thing TC. They want you to believe that their love transcends genders or something really spiritual like that, but at the end of the day you're still waking up next to someone who has either a penis or vagina.

I think it might be an attempt to distance themselves from the stigma associated with bisexuality. It isn't right, but a lot of people assume that bisexuals whore around a lot. I guess I can understand that. I still have to suppress an eyeroll when someone tells me they're pansexual though.
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