Poll of the Day > Trumo signed an executive order ending family separation at border

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Lol at how many of his fans supported family separation at the border...I wonder if they will inmediatelly change their mind just becauae Trump did....
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Cool.
I don't know why that was a thing before that people thought was ok, but that's good that it's not going to happen anymore (well, legally happen anymore).
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Lol now he exempt from liberal hate forever
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https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/1009520734140534784

My read of the Trump executive order:

1) They have left clear grounds to keep separating families if they want.

2) They want to keep families together but indefinitely detained, which is currently illegal.

3) They want to make that not illegal.

https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/1009530698645016577

BREAKING: Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen met with Congress. Gave message the administration knows keeping families together is illegal and knows the request to overturn law will fail. But idea is this buys Congress time to change the laws.

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yourDaddie posted...

Lol at how many of his fans supported family separation at the border...I wonder if they will inmediatelly change their mind just becauae Trump did....

...except Trump didn't change his mind, and im not really confident that the group of his "fans" that supported separation are really "fans" if they didn't know he didn't like it either.
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Its so shamefully sobering how many people were defending such a thing
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Wow I guess Trump doesn't respect the rule of law. Shameful.
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Mead posted...

Its so shamefully sobering how many people were defending such a thing

This is the biggest takeaway, you don't know whether it is just them following the cult or if they are those types of people who are happy when bad things happen to those they don't like.
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I mean this sorta thing has been going on since Elian Gonzalez, it's not new unfortunately
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What do the people who hate Trump's stances on immigration think about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJlmFqUA8w" data-time="
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RazorX2003 posted...

What do the people who hate Trump's stances on immigration think about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJlmFqUA8w" data-time="

I think it is telling that you apparently believe this video is a revelation.

Google "catch and release" read all the stories from Fox and the federalist from 2010-2015, then come back and we may be able to have a conversation.
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now they can hold entire families in cages indefinitely. hooray...
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RazorX2003 posted...

What do the people who hate Trump's stances on immigration think about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJlmFqUA8w" data-time="

Liberals dont really actually give a shit about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to shit on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a shit about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to shit on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

"I defended child kidnapping but really they're the bad guys"
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OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a shit about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to shit on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

Conservatives don't really actually give a shit about anything. It's all about finding a way to pin everything bad in the universe on the liberal boogieman so they can get away with raping every aspect of society and nature.

See I can make comically outrageous partisan hack statements about "the other side" too. This is fun.

Grendel posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a shit about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to shit on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

Conservatives don't really actually give a shit about anything. It's all about finding a way to pin everything bad in the universe on the liberal boogieman so they can get away with raping every aspect of society and nature.

See I can make comically outrageous partisan hack statements about "the other side" too. This is fun.

You can call me partisan if it makes you feel better but I'm just a neutral bystander who likes to call out obvious partisan propaganda. The dems are way more guilty of mass propaganda. That's why there are 99 massively liberal news sites for every conservative one

OhhhJa posted...

That's why there are 99 massively liberal news sites for every conservative one

It's crazy how 99% of people wouldn't defend child kidnapping
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OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a shit about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to shit on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

Obama actually had the nickname "deporter in chief" because he did so many deportations. It's not the first thing you think of when you think of Obama.

Two time Obama voters voted for Trump because they both pretended to be the rouge, then they both ended up being the status quo.
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OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.
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adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

I dont think you understand the definition of kidnapping

Kidnapping: Nabbing children.

They nabbed children.
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OhhhJa posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

I dont think you understand the definition of kidnapping

The fact that you're more eager to nitpick over the definition of kidnapping than to condemn removing children from their families and detaining them in what can only be described as internment camps as a matter of policy says a lot about you as a person.
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adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

I dont think you understand the definition of kidnapping

The fact that you're more eager to nitpick over the definition of kidnapping than to condemn removing children from their families and detaining them in what can only be described as internment camps as a matter of policy says a lot about you as a person.

Like I said, children are separated from their families often either when the parents are arrested or the government finds them to be unfit parents. Ever heard of child protective services?

Also, as I've said before, children of illegal parents may not have immediate access to other family members. That's the risk of illegally migrating to a country you weren't born in. Children were not always deported with their family under previous administrations either

Separating illegal immigrant children from their parents isn't warranted my dude.
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OhhhJa posted...

Children were not always deported with their family under previous administrations either

yes they were. only unaccompanied children were not.
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MacrossSpecial posted...

RazorX2003 posted...

What do the people who hate Trump's stances on immigration think about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJlmFqUA8w" data-time="

I think it is telling that you apparently believe this video is a revelation.

Google "catch and release" read all the stories from Fox and the federalist from 2010-2015, then come back and we may be able to have a conversation.

Interesting response...
i especially like the part where you tell me what i apparently believe and in what style i believe it, as well as the part where you completely avoid the question and make demands to be met before having conversation, as if im unaware of the subject, and should feel that it's relevant why i asked the question
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adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

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adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

I dont think you understand the definition of kidnapping

The fact that you're more eager to nitpick over the definition of kidnapping than to condemn removing children from their families and detaining them in what can only be described as internment camps as a matter of policy says a lot about you as a person.

No, it's really not telling or saying anything about him as a person because you didn't ask, you assumed. You ignored what he has to say and you interjected with an attack that had nothing to do with the content of what he said because you aren't willing to engage in an actual dialogue (kind of like that other guy did to me)... so i'd actually say from an outside perspective that it says way more about you than it does about him.
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RazorX2003 posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

I dont think you understand the definition of kidnapping

The fact that you're more eager to nitpick over the definition of kidnapping than to condemn removing children from their families and detaining them in what can only be described as internment camps as a matter of policy says a lot about you as a person.

No, it's really not telling or saying anything about him as a person because you didn't ask, you assumed. You ignored what he has to say and you interjected with an attack that had nothing to do with the content of what he said because you aren't willing to engage in an actual dialogue (kind of like that other guy did to me)... so i'd actually say from an outside perspective that it says way more about you than it does about him.

Do you really not realize your hypocrisy here?
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Jen0125 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Children were not always deported with their family under previous administrations either

yes they were. only unaccompanied children were not.

This is simply not true but keep saying this without actually knowing it to suit your narrative

i mean. if the people who they came with aren't really their parents and they were trafficking the children they should be separated. or if the parents were abusing the children they should be separated. or if the children were being used as a drug mule or something, they should be separated.

seems like a reasonable thing to do. but idk. maybe we should just give the kids back to anyone claiming to be their parent.
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Andromicus posted...

Lol now he exempt from liberal hate forever

Oh don't worry. They'll be crying about something else within a few hours.
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The_tall_midget posted...

Oh don't worry. They'll be crying about something else within a few hours.

There's a lot to choose from with this President. For every good thing he does 1200 boneheaded things.

OhhhJa posted...

Like I said, children are separated from their families often either when the parents are arrested or the government finds them to be unfit parents. Ever heard of child protective services?

That's a responsive decision, though, not a presumptive one. CPS also carries out its work with a wide range of support staff meant to help mitigate the trauma of removing a child from their parent (albeit with varying degrees of success). There's a massive difference between taking children away from parents that are known to be abusive/criminal and supporting them until they can be successfully fostered, and taking children away from people just for immigrating illegally and chucking them in a cage while they deport the parents.

OhhhJa posted...

Children were not always deported with their family under previous administrations either

If you actually cared about this (and it were true), you would have been protesting it under previous administrations as well, making use of your supposed enlightenment to raise awareness of a grave injustice that the liberal-biased MSM was covering up. Were you? Or are you only bringing it up now that it lets you cry hypocrisy because you never actually cared about immigrant children?

RazorX2003 posted...

No, it's really not telling or saying anything about him as a person because you didn't ask, you assumed. You ignored what he has to say and you interjected with an attack that had nothing to do with the content of what he said because you aren't willing to engage in an actual dialogue (kind of like that other guy did to me)... so i'd actually say from an outside perspective that it says way more about you than it does about him.

In other contexts, he's explicitly said things like "it's funny that libs only care about this now that Trump's doing it." I'm operating on more than just what he's said in this topic; his general approach to the matter has been to focus on that apparent hypocrisy and dismiss the actual wrong taking place on that basis.
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Mead posted...

RazorX2003 posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

I dont think you understand the definition of kidnapping

The fact that you're more eager to nitpick over the definition of kidnapping than to condemn removing children from their families and detaining them in what can only be described as internment camps as a matter of policy says a lot about you as a person.

No, it's really not telling or saying anything about him as a person because you didn't ask, you assumed. You ignored what he has to say and you interjected with an attack that had nothing to do with the content of what he said because you aren't willing to engage in an actual dialogue (kind of like that other guy did to me)... so i'd actually say from an outside perspective that it says way more about you than it does about him.

Do you really not realize your hypocrisy here?

Im well aware that it borders the line of it, yes, however my perspective was a comparative one that was based on a set of observations rather than assumptions.

adjl posted...

In other contexts, he's explicitly said things like "it's funny that libs only care about this now that Trump's doing it." I'm operating on more than just what he's said in this topic; his general approach to the matter has been to focus on that apparent hypocrisy and dismiss the actual wrong taking place on that basis.

Well, i still think your method was unproductive but that's at least a reasonable and respectable response
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RazorX2003 posted...

Mead posted...

RazorX2003 posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

adjl posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Liberals dont really actually give a s*** about immigrants. It's all about finding a way to s*** on Republicans and finding every excuse for what the dems did when they were in power

The fact that you're more eager to laugh at what you believe to be hypocrisy than to condemn kidnapping immigrant children says a lot about you as a person.

I dont think you understand the definition of kidnapping

The fact that you're more eager to nitpick over the definition of kidnapping than to condemn removing children from their families and detaining them in what can only be described as internment camps as a matter of policy says a lot about you as a person.

No, it's really not telling or saying anything about him as a person because you didn't ask, you assumed. You ignored what he has to say and you interjected with an attack that had nothing to do with the content of what he said because you aren't willing to engage in an actual dialogue (kind of like that other guy did to me)... so i'd actually say from an outside perspective that it says way more about you than it does about him.

Do you really not realize your hypocrisy here?

Im well aware that it borders the line of it, yes, however my perspective was a comparative one that was based on a set of observations rather than assumptions.

Oh you mean like everyone else
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Mead posted...

Oh you mean like everyone else

... that statement is an assumption based in absolutism.
No, not "everyone" bases their perspectives on observations.
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