Current Events > Fuck the WWE. They did go through with cock blocking ROH from going to MSG

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Bad_Mojo
06/19/18 12:12:43 PM
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During an interview with Pwinsider.com, ROH Chief Operating Officer Joe Koff revealed that the planned ROH debut in Madison Square Garden in 2019 is off after the Garden had communications from the WWE. Here is what he had to say

You know, Im going to tell you Mike because you are asking. Im not going to discuss beyond this statement because I am not going to litigate this in the press. We had a deal with [Madison Square] Garden and they then told us they were backing out after communications from the WWE. We are not able to get any other dates in any kind of discussion. Im expecting that our lawyers will be contacting all the parties involved and the best we can hope is that we can find a resolution, so we can bring the kind of energy and excitement that ROH and our partner New Japan to a bigger audience and to bigger arenas and to the fans of New York City.

When asked about booking another date, headed, There is no date and the discussion is going to end here on that.


AAA had also secured several dates for The Garden for the fall of 2018. At this time, there is no word yet whether AAAs potential dates have been canceled.
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Solid Sonic
06/19/18 12:15:37 PM
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Pro wrestling is a cutthroat industry, surely you know this.
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Mr_Karate_II
06/19/18 12:19:35 PM
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ROH is just wasting their time by having their lawyers get involved. Unless there was a contract drawn up and there is money already involved then I'm pretty sure nothing can be done.
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Bad_Mojo
06/19/18 12:21:02 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Pro wrestling is a cutthroat industry, surely you know this.


No, every other promotion plays along with each other, everyone but the WWE.
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Solid Sonic
06/19/18 12:21:37 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
Pro wrestling is a cutthroat industry, surely you know this.


No, every other promotion plays along with each other, everyone but the WWE.

Okay, so WWE are the Comcast of the industry, it's still valid to say.
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Mr_Karate_II
06/19/18 12:22:12 PM
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ROH is wasting time and money over this. Money they probably don't have.
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Bad_Mojo
06/19/18 12:23:27 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
ROH is wasting time and money over this. Money they probably don't have.


We don't know the extent of the deal, so maybe they do have a case.

Bad_Mojo posted...
We had a deal with [Madison Square] Garden and they then told us they were backing out after communications from the WWE.


What was the deal? That's the question, but we don't know the answer.
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EverDownward
06/19/18 12:24:33 PM
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Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die
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Bad_Mojo
06/19/18 12:25:21 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die


You do know that Hunter is the only good thing that WWE creative has, right?
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EverDownward
06/19/18 12:26:12 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
EverDownward posted...
Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die


You do know that Hunter is the only good thing that WWE creative has, right?

Scorched Earth is the only viable policy now
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Solid Sonic
06/19/18 12:26:32 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die

Dunn definitely needs to retire (he drinks McMahon Kool-Aid like it's water) but Triple H is probably the only one who actually speaks a language that people who enjoy wrestling can understand.

I think pushing himself like nuts in the early 2000s got it out of his system or something because now he's really good about smart booking and pushing people properly.
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EverDownward
06/19/18 12:27:31 PM
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Fine, I guess Hunter is the least offensive of the bunch.

But Vince, Stephanie, and Dunn really, really need to go away forever.
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_BIueMonk
06/19/18 12:28:41 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die

hey man. i dont like some of their creative and business decisions but they dont need to be killed cmon.
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EverDownward
06/19/18 12:30:36 PM
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_BIueMonk posted...
EverDownward posted...
Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die

hey man. i dont like some of their creative and business decisions but they dont need to be killed cmon.

No, Vince, Steph, and Dunn need to go away so WWE can get better.
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Blue_Target
06/19/18 12:41:49 PM
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Not gonna lie I think MSG is too costy and risky for ROH that even with the the top wrestlers from Japan would bankrupt the company.

Still pretty ****y for WWE stopping them. They don't even use MSG for Raw or PPVs anymore.
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sktgamer_13dude
06/19/18 12:42:58 PM
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Why not just go to Brooklyn then. Still in NYC.
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Bad_Mojo
06/19/18 12:47:17 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Why not just go to Brooklyn then. Still in NYC.


Because it's MSG, the mecha of the pro wrestling world.

Blue_Target posted...
Not gonna lie I think MSG is too costy and risky for ROH that even with the the top wrestlers from Japan would bankrupt the company.


I don't think so, and here is why. Cody, who is just a worker, can rent and sell out a 10,000 arena. He had to have the funds to put that up. Of course MSG would cost more, but surly the people that pay Cody can pony up some money as well
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AlephZero
06/19/18 12:47:43 PM
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wrestling is fake
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Blue_Target
06/19/18 12:59:01 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I don't think so, and here is why. Cody, who is just a worker, can rent and sell out a 10,000 arena. He had to have the funds to put that up. Of course MSG would cost more, but surly the people that pay Cody can pony up some money as well

A venue outside of Chicago is way cheaper than MSG. Plus tickets will be more expensive. WWE lost money broadcasting MSG shows a few years back that Barclay's became the NYC venue.
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Bad_Mojo
06/19/18 1:04:56 PM
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Blue_Target posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
I don't think so, and here is why. Cody, who is just a worker, can rent and sell out a 10,000 arena. He had to have the funds to put that up. Of course MSG would cost more, but surly the people that pay Cody can pony up some money as well

A venue outside of Chicago is way cheaper than MSG. Plus tickets will be more expensive. WWE lost money broadcasting MSG shows a few years back that Barclay's became the NYC venue.


Okay, I really don't know anything about that sort of stuff. So I'll give it to you, lol
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Bad_Mojo
06/21/18 2:18:05 AM
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Knowledge_King
06/21/18 10:36:15 AM
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Don't see a problem.
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Bad_Mojo
06/21/18 1:57:36 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Don't see a problem.


And how's that? Someone makes a deal to run a show there, and then they get the rug pulled out from under them.
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Xxlv20xX
06/21/18 2:11:42 PM
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Roh getting big dicked by the wwe is hilarious.
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TheCurseX2
06/21/18 2:13:50 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die


Those are the only people that have a chance at keeping wrestling alive.
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Bad_Mojo
06/21/18 2:14:42 PM
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TheCurseX2 posted...
EverDownward posted...
Vince, Hunter, Stephanie, and Dunn need to die


Those are the only people that have a chance at keeping wrestling alive.


No, Vince and Dunn need to get out of the way
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TheCurseX2
06/21/18 2:16:24 PM
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Vince is the only person that understands that characters > ringwork is what makes shit go global.

Your little shitty ROH show would be in one week, out the next. They aren't oppressing anything, you're just such a laughable mark you actually think Vince is his Mr. McMahon character.
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C_Pain
06/21/18 2:16:47 PM
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Good. ROH stinks.

Roman Reigns for life. OUHHHH
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soulunison2
06/21/18 2:18:04 PM
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Lmao this is stupid on wwes part there hasnt been a major wrestling event in msg for years
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Bad_Mojo
06/21/18 2:19:05 PM
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TheCurseX2 posted...
Vince is the only person that understands that characters > ringwork is what makes shit go global.

Your little shitty ROH show would be in one week, out the next. They aren't oppressing anything, you're just such a laughable mark you actually think Vince is his Mr. McMahon character.


No, this has nothing to do with global expansion. This as everything to do with ROH booking a show, making the deal, and then getting fucked over because Vince is a piece of shit that can't let anyone have anything. It doesn't effect him at all, MSG hates him right now because they never run a show there, but now that someone else wants to, Vince has to play the exboyfriend and not share.

Fuck him

And All In sold 10,000 tickets faster than the WWE has in a long time
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Knowledge_King
06/21/18 8:08:20 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Don't see a problem.


And how's that? Someone makes a deal to run a show there, and then they get the rug pulled out from under them.


It's business. WWE used their clout to stop a competitor from making a good move. Seems like basic shit.
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