Current Events > If you can't be respectful to trans people, don't even fuckin TALK to me BRO!

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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 8:34:54 PM
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If you can't even be bothered to try and make trans people comfortable, to help them feel safe and accepted, don't even fuckin TALK to me BRO

It doesn't even take much
All it takes it not being an absolute jerk
because at this point if you call someone opposite of their preferred pronoun, you're just being a jerk.

I think most people can tell when someone is presenting female, or if they're presenting male
and if you're wrong, they will politely correct you
and then you can just go with what they ask

Is it REALLY so hard to put your religious or ideological hang-ups aside for one fucking second to say the pronoun they obviously prefer you say just so someone other than yourself can feel more comfortable?

Like holy crap people, it's ridiculous.

If you cannot even be bothered to do ONE nice thing for trans people and help them feel accepted by not being a jerk, don't even fucking TALK to me BRO
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 8:48:42 PM
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halomonkey1_3_5
06/17/18 8:52:58 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Is it REALLY so hard to put your religious or ideological hang-ups aside for one fucking second to the say the pronoun they obviously prefer you say just so someone other than yourself can feel more comfortable?

yes

no
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PanzerElite
06/17/18 8:54:07 PM
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I never know to respond to these topics without worry about mods
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Drrobotniks
06/17/18 8:54:09 PM
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you sound like someone not worth respecting, tbh
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 8:55:44 PM
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Drrobotniks posted...
you sound like someone not worth respecting, tbh

"you want me to be respectful to other humans therefore you sound like someone not worth respecting"
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Drrobotniks
06/17/18 8:57:43 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
"you want me to be respectful to other humans therefore you sound like someone not worth respecting"

No, its your general attitude that suuuuuucks

Nah, that makes too much sense, am I right?

We've had this conversation before, and you mysteriously left after I mentioned it

huh
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 8:58:18 PM
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Drrobotniks posted...
No, its your general attitude that suuuuuucks

oh it's probably because I'm better than you
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catboy0_0
06/17/18 8:59:33 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Drrobotniks posted...
No, its your general attitude that suuuuuucks

oh it's probably because I'm better than you

butter me up baby cup
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 9:00:18 PM
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PanzerElite posted...
I never know to respond to these topics without worry about mods

given that the only real ways you can be modded for responding to this (as far as I can tell, logically) are Trolling, Flaming, or Offensive.

Think about that
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Medussa
06/17/18 9:01:52 PM
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Drrobotniks
06/17/18 9:02:54 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
oh it's probably because I'm better than you


Stop trolling, its against the tos
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MrK3V
06/17/18 9:03:18 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 9:03:34 PM
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catboy0_0
06/17/18 9:04:44 PM
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ok I admit u guys got tha ammo
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Drrobotniks
06/17/18 9:09:16 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
do you hate trans people @Drrobotniks

not really, im friends with quite a few

Its just your attitude is turrible
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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 9:09:50 PM
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there is no need to be upset
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 9:11:26 PM
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that's fine i don't need you to like me

as long as you're out here respecting people that's fine by me

sometimes we just don't get along that's okay
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ultimate reaver
06/17/18 9:11:51 PM
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PanzerElite posted...
I never know to respond to these topics without worry about mods


if you cant manage without being weird or vile, maybe you should just pass
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 11:02:27 PM
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YoungMakaiyum posted...
there is no need to be upset

WHO TF IS UPSET BRO

(seriously who)
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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 11:08:22 PM
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all caps and swearing
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Howl
06/17/18 11:10:34 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
If you can't even be bothered to try and make trans people comfortable, to help them feel safe and accepted, don't even fuckin TALK to me BRO

It doesn't even take much
All it takes it not being an absolute jerk
because at this point if you call someone opposite of their preferred pronoun, you're just being a jerk.

I think most people can tell when someone is presenting female, or if they're presenting male
and if you're wrong, they will politely correct you
and then you can just go with what they ask

Is it REALLY so hard to put your religious or ideological hang-ups aside for one fucking second to say the pronoun they obviously prefer you say just so someone other than yourself can feel more comfortable?

Like holy crap people, it's ridiculous.

If you cannot even be bothered to do ONE nice thing for trans people and help them feel accepted by not being a jerk, don't even fucking TALK to me BRO


This makes no sense tbh because you never refer to a person directly using a pronoun. You refer to other people other than the person of subject using pronouns.
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masticatingman
06/17/18 11:10:59 PM
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I remember you saying you were bi but leaned hetero in some thread. Hopefully youre sincere and not simply latching onto these ideations simply because of your (obvious) political leanings. Not everything has to revolve around identarian logic.
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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 11:11:47 PM
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Howl posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
If you can't even be bothered to try and make trans people comfortable, to help them feel safe and accepted, don't even fuckin TALK to me BRO

It doesn't even take much
All it takes it not being an absolute jerk
because at this point if you call someone opposite of their preferred pronoun, you're just being a jerk.

I think most people can tell when someone is presenting female, or if they're presenting male
and if you're wrong, they will politely correct you
and then you can just go with what they ask

Is it REALLY so hard to put your religious or ideological hang-ups aside for one fucking second to say the pronoun they obviously prefer you say just so someone other than yourself can feel more comfortable?

Like holy crap people, it's ridiculous.

If you cannot even be bothered to do ONE nice thing for trans people and help them feel accepted by not being a jerk, don't even fucking TALK to me BRO


This makes no sense tbh because you never refer to a person directly using a pronoun. You refer to other people other than the person of subject using pronouns.

this is a pretty interesting point imo
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frogman_295
06/17/18 11:12:46 PM
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bro, gimmick lame a is this.
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Schwarz
06/17/18 11:13:48 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
I think most people can tell when someone is presenting female, or if they're presenting male
and if you're wrong, they will politely correct you
and then you can just go with what they ask

That's fine, as long as it's a real pronoun.

Howl posted...
This makes no sense tbh because you never refer to a person directly using a pronoun.

Also this.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 11:18:07 PM
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masticatingman posted...
I remember you saying you were bi but leaned hetero in some thread. Hopefully youre sincere and not simply latching onto these ideations simply because of your (obvious) political leanings. Not everything has to revolve around identarian logic.

my sexuality exists in a vaccum exclusive of my political leanings

i used to be a "young republican" type too you know

Howl posted...
This makes no sense tbh because you never refer to a person directly using a pronoun. You refer to other people other than the person of subject using pronouns.

ok
so use the right ones then

it's not hard
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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 11:19:07 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
so use the right ones then

it's not hard

his point is it doesn't relate to respect
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 11:34:21 PM
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YoungMakaiyum posted...
his point is it doesn't relate to respect

how you treat and refer to a person when they're not there is the surest sign of respect
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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 11:35:45 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
YoungMakaiyum posted...
his point is it doesn't relate to respect

how you treat and refer to a person when they're not there is the surest sign of respect

yes but you can respect a trans person without respecting the trans part of them
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 11:36:26 PM
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YoungMakaiyum posted...
yes but you can respect a trans person without respecting the trans part of them

"i want to respect them except the part where i let them decide who they are so they can be comfortable"
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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 11:37:09 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
decide who they are

see that's the thing
some people don't see that decision as something that you can well, decide
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
06/17/18 11:37:37 PM
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YoungMakaiyum posted...
some people don't see that decision as something that you can well, decide

who the fuck cares

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Is it REALLY so hard to put your religious or ideological hang-ups aside for one fucking second to say the pronoun they obviously prefer you say just so someone other than yourself can feel more comfortable?

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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 11:39:04 PM
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could be yeah

you could also arguing that the trans persons ideology isn't inherently better than the cis persons
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Lost_All_Senses
06/17/18 11:40:07 PM
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MrK3V posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY1CIKnRGaM" data-time="


Wtf dude. They randomly say the N word at the end of that
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MawiIe-Mega
06/17/18 11:40:57 PM
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i'll happily call someone he/she, or even they/them if they politely ask me, but i'm never gonna call someone by xe/xir or some shit, ever
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YoungMakaiyum
06/17/18 11:41:46 PM
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MawiIe-Mega posted...
i'll happily call someone he/she, or even they/them if they politely ask me, but i'm never gonna call someone by xe/xir or some shit, ever

also this tho
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Howl
06/18/18 12:28:10 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
YoungMakaiyum posted...
his point is it doesn't relate to respect

how you treat and refer to a person when they're not there is the surest sign of respect


Demanding that a person refer to other people about you in specific ways is a perfect way to not earn any respect. If anybody told me I had to refer to them to other people in a way they demanded of me, I wouldn't, and then I'd laugh at them for making such an insanely stupid demand of me.
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Howl
06/18/18 1:56:26 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Howl posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
YoungMakaiyum posted...
his point is it doesn't relate to respect

how you treat and refer to a person when they're not there is the surest sign of respect


Demanding that a person refer to other people about you in specific ways is a perfect way to not earn any respect. If anybody told me I had to refer to them to other people in a way they demanded of me, I wouldn't, and then I'd laugh at them for making such an insanely stupid demand of me.

Yeah but youre Hoth so who cares what dumb claim youre making tonight?


Do you ever actually think before you say anything, or do you literally just say the dumbest possible thing every time it's possible to communicate with someone?

It's like you just walk into rooms where people are and go "Listen up everybody! I found a snail yesterday on the ground." Then everyone just kind of awkwardly looks at you for a second and goes back to their usual business. You then proceed to think you impressed everyone in the room and congratulate yourself for your triumph.
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Lathissamus
06/18/18 2:02:40 AM
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I'm always going to use he or she. Not actively trying to offend anyone but that's how I've always referred to people. If you'd like to be referred to as one or the other, cool, but I'm not about to adopt new pronouns.
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soyforsteaks
06/18/18 2:15:45 AM
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I respect trans people more because they aren't afraid to be what their minds tell them. We all could learn a lot from them.
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Lathissamus
06/18/18 2:27:44 AM
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soyforsteaks posted...
I respect trans people more because they aren't afraid to be what their minds tell them. We all could learn a lot from them.

That's some poor logic right there. It's fine to respect trans people for being who they are on the inside, but your logic seems to indicate that you think that "cis" people aren't being themselves?
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Howl
06/18/18 11:28:29 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Howl posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Howl posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
YoungMakaiyum posted...
his point is it doesn't relate to respect

how you treat and refer to a person when they're not there is the surest sign of respect


Demanding that a person refer to other people about you in specific ways is a perfect way to not earn any respect. If anybody told me I had to refer to them to other people in a way they demanded of me, I wouldn't, and then I'd laugh at them for making such an insanely stupid demand of me.

Yeah but youre Hoth so who cares what dumb claim youre making tonight?


Do you ever actually think before you say anything, or do you literally just say the dumbest possible thing every time it's possible to communicate with someone?

It's like you just walk into rooms where people are and go "Listen up everybody! I found a snail yesterday on the ground." Then everyone just kind of awkwardly looks at you for a second and goes back to their usual business. You then proceed to think you impressed everyone in the room and congratulate yourself for your triumph.

Are you ok, Hoth?


Yeah, I'm just genuinely curious because I've never seen you express an even remotely intelligent thought. Most of your posts are poorly exectued "insults" to other users.

My 5 year old nephew articulates interesting thoughts on a much more regular basis than you do.
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Howl
06/18/18 11:33:46 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Ok then ignore my posts and go cry a river


No, I want you to understand how to be a better person tbh. I could help you if you'd be willing. You just have to start with resisting the urge to insult a person in every topic you choose to post in.
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soyforsteaks
06/18/18 11:39:45 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
soyforsteaks posted...
I respect trans people more because they aren't afraid to be what their minds tell them. We all could learn a lot from them.

That's some poor logic right there. It's fine to respect trans people for being who they are on the inside, but your logic seems to indicate that you think that "cis" people aren't being themselves?

Sometimes they aren't. Cis people are usually teeming with insecurities.
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