Current Events > Wow, Asians really do get hit hard by affirmative action

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Omega Hunter posted...

MacadamianNut3 posted...

It's pretty amazing that someone decided to mention acceptance rates and not even something as basic as the number of applicants per group, among other things. If I pulled that kind of extremely lazy statistics shit in any paper I submitted for conferences or even a workshop (where you pretty much can just vomit out text about what you plan on doing in the near future and brainstorm with others), I would get my ass torn to shreds in reviews.

You'd also think someone who took the MCAT would have better critical thinking skills and look up supplemental information but its Coffeebeanz, so I'm gonna guess that data was probably included on whatever website she originally found it on but she left it out and then hosted it on imgtc to get rid of the url

Because we all need attention on CE sometimes

This. Let's compare an applicant pool of 100 asians to 7 blacks.

None of that would even matter if there were no quotas. The average acceptance MCAT and GPA would be the same regardless of race. I know you think you're clever about how statistics work, but you really aren't. Asians would only be overrepresented because they apply in higher numbers, which isn't entirely unreasonable.

If there were no racial makeup quotas, everyone would have the same likelihood of being accepted if they had equal test scores and GPAs. Yes, the acceptance rates of each race would be different because the number of applicants would be different. But the average accepted MCAT and GPA would be the same regardless of race.

Where you get into trouble is if no, or relatively few, applicants of a certain race meet or exceed the average acceptance scores. But I'll let you decide what should be done about that.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

I know you think you're clever about how statistics work, but you really aren't.

Believe or not it doesn't take that much book smarts to know that percentages alone are never a good statistic. So if you think I think I'm clever because I and other people pointed out something that even high schoolers know, well thanks I guess. Here's something else I guess I think I'm clever at because I know how to do, going with this reasoning

https://imgur.com/KDbEfST

Coffeebeanz posted...

Yes, the acceptance rates of each race would be different because the number of applicants would be different. But the average accepted MCAT and GPA would be the same regardless of race

Which would also be affected by another factor that has been conveniently omitted for the sake of this topic such as where they apply, since a quick Google search has turned up acceptance rates ranging from 1% to 28% depending on the school (and that's just from Googling "medical schools with highest acceptance rates"). Since this topic isn't about one school in particular and instead about all medical schools, that average accepted MCAT and GPA would not be the same regardless of race if you have notable subset of a group applying to extremely competitive programs and another applying to ones with a higher ratio of available spots to applicants.

I'd feel better about fulfilling your request to jump to conclusions and make decisions about medical school acceptance (just because I pointed our your shitty use of statistics) if I had more info about this. Maybe it's on this site you got the chart from?
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Coffeebeanz posted...

I was interested in the subject after Harvard had that lawsuit recently, so I decided to look up medical school acceptance rates based on academics and ethnicity. It's almost cruel how high the standards are for Asian applicants.

This is how they drag down the quality for everyone
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And we still make more per capita than whites. Imagine if they accepted more of us

DeadSite posted...

And we still make more per capita than whites. Imagine if they accepted more of us

Adjusted for education you make less. Many more millions of poor and atupid whites in American than Asians in total. Again, head in the sand or up your ass. The smartest demographic has no grasp of numbers and statistics and how they actually work, guess that proves even good syereotypes are bullshit.
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Fony posted...

Adjusted for education you make less

Ok

How can anybody justify denying people who would be better doctors based on the color of their skin?
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http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=1
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VoightKent posted...

Also this. Call me next time an Asian doctor wants to work in the hood.

If Asians want to be more prevalent in society they need to decide to have more kids. But that won't happen and so things will remain the same.

Lol

Baby is mad but can't refute anything. Aww.

VoightKent posted...

Also this. Call me next time an Asian doctor wants to work in the hood.

can his safety be guaranteed?
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