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3khc
06/15/18 9:29:18 PM
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Which explains why they are often mad and lash out against feminists and SJWs and snowflakes or whoever right leaners like to blame for the progressive thinking. Because times are constantly changing and this isn't what they want.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Zack_Attackv1
06/15/18 9:30:49 PM
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YourDrunkFather
06/15/18 9:33:10 PM
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The current state of the left is not progressive. It's regressive and that's what most people "lash out" at. And not everyone who shit talks the regressive left is a conservative either.
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Patty_Fleur
06/15/18 9:33:19 PM
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Trump is President
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Questionmarktarius
06/15/18 9:34:49 PM
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Well, yeah. That's spelled right out in the name.
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BLAKUboy
06/15/18 9:37:25 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/f89d0b2c-b658-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html
Why conservatives start culture wars and liberals win them

tl;dr They're always on the losing side.
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Antifar
06/15/18 9:38:50 PM
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That arc of history stuff is only true via struggle. Do not take it for a given that the good will always win out.
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3khc
06/17/18 6:16:09 PM
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That is epic way to think.
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PanzerElite
06/17/18 6:18:00 PM
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Conservatives were on the winning side of the Cold War.
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KarmaMuffin
06/17/18 6:20:53 PM
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Society certainly ebbs and flows, but yes we have are many times more progressive than we were centuries ago
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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/17/18 6:21:11 PM
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PanzerElite posted...
Conservatives were on the winning side of the Cold War.


What do you mean?
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Howl
06/17/18 6:28:01 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/f89d0b2c-b658-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html
Why conservatives start culture wars and liberals win them

tl;dr They're always on the losing side.


From the aame "news" organization that felt it necessary to publish the article "Why can't we hate men."

Yeah the Washington Post is utter trash at this point. Really calling them trash is giving them too much credit because trash can actually be used as materials to build fire with, now they are just resorting to clickbait internet nonsense that doesn't even amount to that level of usage anymore.
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Tmaster148
06/17/18 6:30:03 PM
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Howl posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/f89d0b2c-b658-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html
Why conservatives start culture wars and liberals win them

tl;dr They're always on the losing side.


From the aame "news" organization that felt it necessary to publish the article "Why can't we hate men."

Yeah the Washington Post is utter trash at this point. Really calling them trash is giving them too much credit because trash can actually be used as materials to build fire with, now they are just resorting to clickbait internet nonsense that doesn't even amount to that level of usage anymore.


I like how upset you got over an opinion article.
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Darmik
06/17/18 6:30:33 PM
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Of course. Society will gradually get more progressive and inclusive in the long run.
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Howl
06/17/18 7:26:38 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Howl posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/f89d0b2c-b658-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html
Why conservatives start culture wars and liberals win them

tl;dr They're always on the losing side.


From the aame "news" organization that felt it necessary to publish the article "Why can't we hate men."

Yeah the Washington Post is utter trash at this point. Really calling them trash is giving them too much credit because trash can actually be used as materials to build fire with, now they are just resorting to clickbait internet nonsense that doesn't even amount to that level of usage anymore.


I like how upset you got over an opinion article.


At least I'm not screaming about how the Washington Post is promoting "violent speech" and that them being allowed to publish such articles is dangerous to my well being and as such is a violation of "safe space" policies like liberals today do.
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A_Good_Boy
06/17/18 7:27:46 PM
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Howl posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Howl posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/f89d0b2c-b658-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html
Why conservatives start culture wars and liberals win them

tl;dr They're always on the losing side.


From the aame "news" organization that felt it necessary to publish the article "Why can't we hate men."

Yeah the Washington Post is utter trash at this point. Really calling them trash is giving them too much credit because trash can actually be used as materials to build fire with, now they are just resorting to clickbait internet nonsense that doesn't even amount to that level of usage anymore.


I like how upset you got over an opinion article.


At least I'm not screaming about how the Washington Post is promoting "violebt speech" and that them being allowed to publish such articles is dangerous to my well being and as such is a violation of "safe space" policies like liberals today do.

Looks like we've got another melty.
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COVxy
06/17/18 7:29:30 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
regressive left


The only people I've seen using this phrase have been political hacks.
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DarkTransient
06/17/18 7:32:33 PM
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3khc posted...
Which explains why they are often mad and lash out against feminists and SJWs and snowflakes or whoever right leaners like to blame for the progressive thinking. Because times are constantly changing and this isn't what they want.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


You may think you only described conservatives, but you described both sides here.
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3khc
06/17/18 7:48:27 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
3khc posted...
Which explains why they are often mad and lash out against feminists and SJWs and snowflakes or whoever right leaners like to blame for the progressive thinking. Because times are constantly changing and this isn't what they want.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


You may think you only described conservatives, but you described both sides here.

But the difference is change vs tradition.
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Complete_Idi0t
06/17/18 7:54:34 PM
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Wait, being regressive is seen as bad now? I thought Trump wanted to take the country back to a time when it was great.
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kayoticdreamz
06/17/18 7:56:12 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
0/10


sadly thats the highest level of bait needed.
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Slyk90
06/17/18 8:07:06 PM
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They really aren't
Mentions sjw, bashes non dems.
Either troll, or actual Dem.
both are equally fail and ignorant.
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Tmaster148
06/17/18 8:08:06 PM
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Howl posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Howl posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/f89d0b2c-b658-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html
Why conservatives start culture wars and liberals win them

tl;dr They're always on the losing side.


From the aame "news" organization that felt it necessary to publish the article "Why can't we hate men."

Yeah the Washington Post is utter trash at this point. Really calling them trash is giving them too much credit because trash can actually be used as materials to build fire with, now they are just resorting to clickbait internet nonsense that doesn't even amount to that level of usage anymore.


I like how upset you got over an opinion article.


At least I'm not screaming about how the Washington Post is promoting "violent speech" and that them being allowed to publish such articles is dangerous to my well being and as such is a violation of "safe space" policies like liberals today do.


Quite the project you got going.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/17/18 8:10:32 PM
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You know not everything has to change. Just because it's against the status quo doesn't mean it's progressive.
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YourDrunkFather
06/18/18 5:42:57 AM
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COVxy posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
regressive left


The only people I've seen using this phrase have been political hacks.


And the only people I've seen get butthurt about the term are the ones the term describes
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DarthWendy
06/18/18 5:44:53 AM
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3khc posted...
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong.
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3khc
06/18/18 6:31:58 AM
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DarthWendy posted...
3khc posted...
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

And the correction part?
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Shut_TheF---_Up
06/18/18 6:34:36 AM
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Complete_Idi0t posted...
Wait, being regressive is seen as bad now? I thought Trump wanted to take the country back to a time when it was great.


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scar the 1
06/18/18 6:39:45 AM
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Regression is a very important tool in statistical analysis - you should know this COVxy

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COVxy
06/18/18 9:33:09 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Regression is a very important tool in statistical analysis - you should know this COVxy

:^)


http://phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1921
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scar the 1
06/18/18 9:55:59 AM
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COVxy posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Regression is a very important tool in statistical analysis - you should know this COVxy

:^)


http://phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1921

I'm too lazy to try this, but what happens if you use the inverse distance as the norm instead? Shouldn't that produce something like the right panel?
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Roshon
06/18/18 10:02:17 AM
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This is true.

OMG THERE WAS A LESBIAN KISS IN THIS GAME

OMG A GREEK GAME FEATURES GAY ROMANCE

They act as if the world is ending just for having gay characters.

Why dont you move out of the west and into a country with extremely homophobic views if you hate gay people that much?
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TheMikh
06/18/18 10:04:04 AM
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PanzerElite posted...
Conservatives were on the winning side of the Cold War.

conservatives won the battle but lost the war
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COVxy
06/18/18 10:30:32 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
COVxy posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Regression is a very important tool in statistical analysis - you should know this COVxy

:^)


http://phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1921

I'm too lazy to try this, but what happens if you use the inverse distance as the norm instead? Shouldn't that produce something like the right panel?


No idea, my intuition says no though. That you'd get a fit with the same slope but an infinitely large intercept.

My guess is you'd need to do something clever with dot products to find the line that runs orthoganal to least squares fit.
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BLAKUboy
06/18/18 10:34:33 AM
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Should be noted that article is a preview for a book, rather than a regular opinion piece. So attacking the source here actually wins you negative points, rather than the usual no points.
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Questionmarktarius
06/18/18 11:19:40 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
This is an interesting article that's kind of related: https://www.vox.com/2018/3/13/17053886/trump-rural-america-populism-racial-resentment

Intro
Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

Wuthnows work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a moral decline in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that its never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it.

The Vox article is interesting, in that Sean Illing is essentially "can you believe this shit?" while Robert Wuthnow is trying his damnedest to analyze and explain.
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mario2000
06/18/18 11:32:32 AM
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it's not a theory, it's a fact

american conservatism is dying out
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looked
06/18/18 11:38:08 AM
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3khc posted...
Which explains why they are often mad and lash out against feminists and SJWs and snowflakes or whoever right leaners like to blame for the progressive thinking. Because times are constantly changing and this isn't what they want.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Sure Ill correct you. Its actually the left that tends to be more emotional, which is why the right is sometimes referred to as the fuck your feelings crowd.

But yes, feminist and sjws get lashed out at because they deserve it, and no feminist and sjw are not synonyms for women and minorities.
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averagejoel
06/18/18 11:40:43 AM
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fascism is capitalism in decay
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scar the 1
06/18/18 2:46:15 PM
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COVxy posted...
No idea, my intuition says no though. That you'd get a fit with the same slope but an infinitely large intercept.

My guess is you'd need to do something clever with dot products to find the line that runs orthoganal to least squares fit.

Well given that linear regression in itself is based on something clever with dot products, I would guess the same. But I suppose you're right, if you define the inner product such that orthogonality is the same as Euclidean parallelism, then you might have a suitable norm.
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